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Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 7:59 PM ET
If they are in the 5 to 8 range.

Zacha, Marner, Strome, Kylington, Roy, & Svechnikov all should be considered.

- ob18


3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 5 @ 8:00 PM ET
Must. Not. revisit. trade....
- Jsaquella



I know. I know, you are right... But it still hurts
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 5 @ 8:02 PM ET
I like Sprong, too. I'm just saying if you want size...none of those guys have much of it.
- Jsaquella

We need a big guy in this draft. Be it a winger or D man.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 8:03 PM ET
Personally, have to guard against looking at the short term over the long term. Lecavalier is just hot right now, but how he is skating and working, is a good sign if he remains a Flyers. Can he keep that up over the 2nd half of the season.
- MJL


He had the same kind of hot streak last season on the 4th-line, eating up weak comp and doing some damage on the PP. That didn't last, so I suspect this current thing is just another hot streak. Even if he is scoring, that line has been routinely giving up goals with increased ice. That's not so good.


With Del Zotto, he teased us during that period. Haven't given up hope yet, but there has been far more down periods then up with Del Zotto the last 3 seasons
- MJL


He was doing great when they were forced to live w/ his roving... the minute Coburn and AMac came back, he was back on one-mistake-and-you're-eating-dog-food status.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 5 @ 8:03 PM ET
We need a big guy in this draft. Be it a winger or D man.
- hereticpride

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 5 @ 8:04 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy



I was thinking more along the lines of Hanafin or Crouse.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 8:05 PM ET





He was doing great when they were forced to live w/ his roving... the minute Coburn and AMac came back, he was back on one-mistake-and-you're-eating-dog-food status.

- Tomahawk



I don't think that is an accurate description of the situation. Del Zotto was never scratched for making one mistake. He was scratched for playing rogue individual hockey. If he had continued to play as he had during that 2 week stretch or so, he would've never been removed from the lineup. He stopped being a defenseman, and tried to play like a forward.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
He had the same kind of hot streak last season on the 4th-line, eating up weak comp and doing some damage on the PP. That didn't last, so I suspect this current thing is just another hot streak. Even if he is scoring, that line has been routinely giving up goals with increased ice. That's not so good.




He was doing great when they were forced to live w/ his roving... the minute Coburn and AMac came back, he was back on one-mistake-and-you're-eating-dog-food status.

- Tomahawk



There has basically been zero difference in the d core with or without coburn/amac and the likes of cc and MDZ playing

It's a sad state of affairs
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 5 @ 8:08 PM ET
I don't think that is an accurate description of the situation. Del Zotto was never scratched for making one mistake. He was scratched for playing rogue individual hockey. If he had continued to play as he had during that 2 week stretch or so, he would've never been removed from the lineup. He stopped being a defenseman, and tried to play like a forward.
- MJL


It would interesting of the flyers developed a rover position.

I could see MDZ, coots, and Bellemare as our 1-3 rovers
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 8:10 PM ET
I don't think that is an accurate description of the situation. Del Zotto was never scratched for making one mistake. He was scratched for playing rogue individual hockey. If he had continued to play as he had during that 2 week stretch or so, he would've never been removed from the lineup. He stopped being a defenseman, and tried to play like a forward.
- MJL


Dunno, I haven't noticed a change in his game at any point in the season. I haven't really seen him down shift to a more conservative gear, even after being freshly admonished. He's always deep in the o-zone, all over the ice -- it's just part of his DNA.

He thrives when they put up with it.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 5 @ 8:13 PM ET


I was thinking more along the lines of Hanafin or Crouse.

- hereticpride


hanafin looks small to me.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 5 @ 8:14 PM ET
There has basically been zero difference in the d core with or without coburn/amac and the likes of cc and MDZ playing

It's a sad state of affairs

- Just5


This
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 5 @ 8:15 PM ET
Anyone see any teams taking interest in Emery? I was thinking the Bolts maybe. Nabakov has been bad and their kid isn't ready for playoff hockey. I'd be happy with a 4th for Ray.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 8:15 PM ET
Dunno, I haven't noticed a change in his game at any point in the season. I haven't really seen him down shift to a more conservative gear, even after being freshly admonished. He's always deep in the o-zone, all over the ice -- it's just part of his DNA.

He thrives when they put up with it.

- Tomahawk


It's not about being conservative. Berube does not want Del Zotto playing conservatively. I've seen a clear and drastic difference in his game. He had an outstanding period of about 2 weeks. Other then that, he has been ordinary, and underwhelming from where he should be, to being downright horrendous defensively in the first month or so of the season. I'd really like to see him put it together, since he showed in that stint that he has the ability.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
hanafin looks small to me.
- wilsonecho91


His skating reminds me of doughty though
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
hanafin looks small to me.
- wilsonecho91

He's 6'2" at 17 years of age. Not huge by any means but he should be able to still put on an inch or two.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 8:16 PM ET
This
- AllInForFlyers


The d-corps actually looked semi-competent when both MDZ and Colie were in the lineup together.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 5 @ 8:19 PM ET
Duclair baby. Yolk on the brow!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 5 @ 8:19 PM ET
The d-corps actually looked semi-competent when both MDZ and Colie were in the lineup together.
- Tomahawk


I was disappointed in the dip when Coburn and AMac returned...I honestly thought they were going to stabilize and go on a little run
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 5 @ 8:21 PM ET
Well, that was fast
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
Well, that was fast
- PhillySportsGuy


Getting ugly
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 5 @ 8:26 PM ET
Getting ugly
- ob18


Very entertaining
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 8:26 PM ET
Very entertaining
- PhillySportsGuy


Russians now trying to just get under their skin since it's been a bad start for them
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 5 @ 8:28 PM ET
Very entertaining
- PhillySportsGuy


At this point Morin should be in the game to use his size.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 5 @ 8:28 PM ET
We need a big guy in this draft. Be it a winger or D man.
- hereticpride


There's good size to be had, but if they have a top 5 pick, I want BPA, even if it's a tiny guy like Marner.

If they can get into the late first round with a trade, there's some good, bigger players that should be on the board.
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