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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 1:51 PM ET
Where did you ever get that notion?



- Lexington Flyer


He thought he gave Chief a two-year deal... turns out he misplaced a decimal and Berube's locked in for the next 200.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
Bad news for testosterone boosters

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
Rags on a 9-1-0 run, Caps 7-1-2, Jackets 7-2-1... yikes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 5 @ 2:07 PM ET
Since no game day, I did my Best BiggE impression and have a top-10 list of the most talented Flyers draft picks who I have watched play during my lifetime (started to watch in 1992). Note: These are Flyers draft picks, but I am using their overall careers as a barometer:

1. Peter Forsberg – One of the greatest all-around players of the last 20 years, he was one of the greatest puck possession players of all time and an all-world passer. He won at every level and is at near God status in Sweden. Peter won an Art Ross Trophy as well as a Hart Trophy, 2 Stanley Cups, a pair of Olympic Gold Medals, and 2 World Championships. He could beat players either with a finesse game or go through players with a physical brand.

2. Claude Giroux – Like Forsberg, Giroux is one of the premier stick handlers and passers in the league. The current Flyers captain is always dangerous with the puck and can either carry the puck through a team or make a great saucer pass to set players up for great shots.

3. Ron Hextall – Although never truly an “elite” goalie, Ron Hextall was able to provide goaltending at a championship level various times. Once called the best goaltender he ever faced by Wayne Gretzky, Hextall was arguably the second-best goalie in team history

4. Jeff Carter –.Although he was as streaky as they come, Carter had a laser of a shot and is one of the best snipers in recent Flyers’ history. Despite his awkward skating style, Carter had fantastic speed and acceleration and a quick release, and was a threat to score anywhere in the offensive zone.

5. James van Riemsdyk – Like Carter, he was a very streaky player who struggled with consistency in his all-around game. However, when he was on, he was as dangerous as any power forward in the league. He was able to score with wristers from the circle as well as battle for loose pucks on rebounds out front.

6. Simon Gagne – Although injuries took their toll on him in the latter portion of his career, Gagne established himself as a premier scorer during the mid-2000s. He was able to use his speed to beat defenders in the zone, and once in the clear, was as good as any shooter in the game.

7. Patrick Sharp – Although he never had success as a Flyer, Sharp became an elite player in the late -2000’s and remains so today. Although he was often overshadowed in Chicago, Sharp is a legitimate superstar who can snipe a goal as well as any player in the league.

8. Mikael Renberg – Like Gagne, his career was derailed by injuries, but unlike Gagne, they occurred much earlier. Had an underrated ability to play a physical brand of hockey, and was more of a pure shooter than his linemates Lindros or LeClair, as he was more suited to a speed/finesse game. Had arguably the best rookie season ever by a Flyer skater ever.

9. Mike Richards – A player who played 3 inches and 25 pounds heavier than he was, Richards was able to take his skill and elevate it with fantastic intensity. A player who could deliver devastating hits and use his defensive instincts to create offense when shorthanded, Richards became a dynamic offensive threat in the second half of his stint in Philadelphia and was a key contributor in the Kings’ 2012 Stanley Cup.

10. Rick Tocchet – A prototypical power forward, Rick Tocchet was able to translate his game from a checking type player to a 100-point player. Using a blend of speed and skill coupled with his willingness to hit and fight with near unmatched intensity, Tocchet was able to use his size to win the puck away from defenders and developed into a legit scoring threat.

Honorable Mentions – Mike Ricci, Janne Niinimaa, Vaclav Prospal, Brian Boucher, Dainus Zubrus, Justin Williams, Roman Cechmanek, Joni Pitkanen
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 5 @ 2:09 PM ET
So Giroux is out Tuesday

Next we'll hear he's being evaluated on Weds

On Thursday they'll announce he's on IR with an LBI

News of the amputation we'll come the following week; he'll be listed as day to day

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
Since no game day, I did my Best BiggE impression and have a top-10 list of the most talented Flyers draft picks who I have watched play during my lifetime (started to watch in 1992). Note: These are Flyers draft picks, but I am using their overall careers as a barometer:

1. Peter Forsberg – One of the greatest all-around players of the last 20 years, he was one of the greatest puck possession players of all time and an all-world passer. He won at every level and is at near God status in Sweden. Peter won an Art Ross Trophy as well as a Hart Trophy, 2 Stanley Cups, a pair of Olympic Gold Medals, and 2 World Championships. He could beat players either with a finesse game or go through players with a physical brand.

2. Claude Giroux – Like Forsberg, Giroux is one of the premier stick handlers and passers in the league. The current Flyers captain is always dangerous with the puck and can either carry the puck through a team or make a great saucer pass to set players up for great shots.

3. Ron Hextall – Although never truly an “elite” goalie, Ron Hextall was able to provide goaltending at a championship level various times. Once called the best goaltender he ever faced by Wayne Gretzky, Hextall was arguably the second-best goalie in team history

4. Jeff Carter –.Although he was as streaky as they come, Carter had a laser of a shot and is one of the best snipers in recent Flyers’ history. Despite his awkward skating style, Carter had fantastic speed and acceleration and a quick release, and was a threat to score anywhere in the offensive zone.

5. James van Riemsdyk – Like Carter, he was a very streaky player who struggled with consistency in his all-around game. However, when he was on, he was as dangerous as any power forward in the league. He was able to score with wristers from the circle as well as battle for loose pucks on rebounds out front.

6. Simon Gagne – Although injuries took their toll on him in the latter portion of his career, Gagne established himself as a premier scorer during the mid-2000s. He was able to use his speed to beat defenders in the zone, and once in the clear, was as good as any shooter in the game.

7. Patrick Sharp – Although he never had success as a Flyer, Sharp became an elite player in the late -2000’s and remains so today. Although he was often overshadowed in Chicago, Sharp is a legitimate superstar who can snipe a goal as well as any player in the league.

8. Mikael Renberg – Like Gagne, his career was derailed by injuries, but unlike Gagne, they occurred much earlier. Had an underrated ability to play a physical brand of hockey, and was more of a pure shooter than his linemates Lindros or LeClair, as he was more suited to a speed/finesse game. Had arguably the best rookie season ever by a Flyer skater ever.

9. Mike Richards – A player who played 3 inches and 25 pounds heavier than he was, Richards was able to take his skill and elevate it with fantastic intensity. A player who could deliver devastating hits and use his defensive instincts to create offense when shorthanded, Richards became a dynamic offensive threat in the second half of his stint in Philadelphia and was a key contributor in the Kings’ 2012 Stanley Cup.

10. Rick Tocchet – A prototypical power forward, Rick Tocchet was able to translate his game from a checking type player to a 100-point player. Using a blend of speed and skill coupled with his willingness to hit and fight with near unmatched intensity, Tocchet was able to use his size to win the puck away from defenders and developed into a legit scoring threat.

Honorable Mentions – Mike Ricci, Janne Niinimaa, Vaclav Prospal, Brian Boucher, Dainus Zubrus, Justin Williams, Roman Cechmanek, Joni Pitkanen

- jmatchett383




Well done, I won't even go after you for copyright infringement!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
So Giroux is out Tuesday

Next we'll hear he's being evaluated on Weds

On Thursday they'll announce he's on IR with an LBI

News of the amputation we'll come the following week; he'll be listed as day to day


- BiggE


Actually, he's day to day & "likely" to play vs Ottawa
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 5 @ 2:12 PM ET
We should just be happy he's not out till September like it initially appeared.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 5 @ 2:12 PM ET

Well done, I won't even go after you for copyright infringement!

- BiggE


You're weak
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 5 @ 2:12 PM ET
So Giroux is out Tuesday

Next we'll hear he's being evaluated on Weds

On Thursday they'll announce he's on IR with an LBI

News of the amputation we'll come the following week; he'll be listed as day to day


- BiggE


January 18th: "He's listed as LTIR retroactive to...hold on, we have an update here...ummmm...well, he's actually been dead for about 2 weeks. His death was misdiagnosed as a "lower body injury." In other news, Jim McCrossin has been given a 40-year-extension..."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 5 @ 2:13 PM ET

Well done, I won't even go after you for copyright infringement!

- BiggE


Citers gonna cite.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jan 5 @ 2:13 PM ET
January 18th: "He's listed as LTIR retroactive to...hold on, we have an update here...ummmm...well, he's actually been dead for about 2 weeks. his death was misdiagnosed as a "lower body injury." in other news, Jim McCrossin has been given a 40-year-extension..."
- jmatchett383

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
You're weak
- PhillySportsGuy


I believe "drunk" is the term you are looking for, sir.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
I believe "drunk" is the term you are looking for, sir.
- Jsaquella


Is your avatar from Craig Berube's audition for Bram Stoker's Dracula?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 5 @ 2:16 PM ET


8. Mikael Renberg – Had arguably the best rookie season ever by a Flyer skater ever.


- jmatchett383


Loved Renberg, he was my favorite player on those teams. But I would still give the best rookie season to Lindros. It definitely arguable.

Renberg 83gp 38g 44a 82p
Lindros 61gp 41g 34a 75p


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
Is your avatar from Craig Berube's audition for Bram Stoker's Dracula?
- jmatchett383


No when he was in Awakenings with Robert DeNiro. He was the before picture
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
You're weak
- PhillySportsGuy


He's just being nice to drum up business, um...'later'.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 5 @ 2:20 PM ET
"Listen…," Berube said, cutting off a question about his potential future, "we all gotta be better. I gotta do a better job, too. The players gotta play better. We all gotta do a better job. We're all in it together."

2014-15 Flyers - "Just Gotta"

- wilsonecho91

The last straw for me is sounding like Andy Reid.

See ya.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 5 @ 2:28 PM ET
The last straw for me is sounding like Andy Reid.

See ya.

- Giroux_Is_God


I'd prefer Don King approach.

Our deterioration is impeccable. We are a catastrophic abomination caught in the cavernous jaws of an indominable reptilian. We are paradoxially duplicately exacerbatingly and remarkably invigorating. Our phenomenal ability to create indefatigable situations for our vigorous oppositions is sensationally uncanny. My hair is weird.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 5 @ 2:28 PM ET

Well done, I won't even go after you for copyright infringement!

- BiggE




what kind of potential client are you?!

in all seriousness, it was an interesting read. thanks for sharing. interesting to see JVR so high. guy certainly does have talent.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 5 @ 2:28 PM ET
Neither Sam Morin nor Shayne Gostisbehere are capable of dramatically altering the Flyers' destiny this season. Next season perhaps. Not this season. They still need to develop.

-
Panaccio


Thank god. We're saved next year. No pressure guys
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
He's just being nice to drum up business, um...'later'.
- tangent_man

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 5 @ 2:30 PM ET
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Thank god. We're saved next year. No pressure guys

- PhillySportsGuy


So they can not be on the roster at 21, but if Laughton wasn't hes a bust?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 5 @ 2:31 PM ET
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Thank god. We're saved next year. No pressure guys

- PhillySportsGuy


"Next year is a big year for Morin. If he doesn't make the team out of training camp, he may never turn into the player he was projected to be."
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 5 @ 2:32 PM ET
"Next year is a big year for Morin. If he doesn't make the team out of training camp, he may never turn into the player he was projected to be."
- jmatchett383

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