There's been lots of trades since MacT started as GM, so saying there's nobody to trade with is wrong. His inept ability to negotiate is the reason it's difficult for him and why nothing is happening.

There's moves that will make the Oilers better sooner rather than later. I've given my suggestions before and had you rip them down because of the "brilliant signings" MacT made in the summer.

I just posted to laugh at the oilers blogger for calling MacT a genius.
- RazzDazzle

Oh sure but the right trades are more important than the trades made for the sake of...

Why Mac T is an idiot....

Signing Pouliot
Signing Fayne
Signing Nikitin
Rushing Drasatyl
Hiring Eakins

Genuis?

Getting OK value for Perron?
- RoloTahmasee

r u retarded?

Fayne & Pouliot have been solid this season for Edmonton. Nikitin blows, it wasn't entirely Eakins fault that our season has sucked. And I'm not even going to comment on DRAISAITL because you do not even have the intelligence to spell his name correctly.

r u retarded?

Fayne & Pouliot have been solid this season for Edmonton. Nikitin blows, it wasn't entirely Eakins fault that our season has sucked. And I'm not even going to comment on DRAISAITL because you do not even have the intelligence to spell his name correctly.
- Oilers4Life14

It`s all Eakins fault! Otherwise they would have gotten rid of bad management or players

It`s all Eakins fault! Otherwise they would have gotten rid of bad management or players
- cdjaakkola

Eakins wasn't the right coach....but no way did I put it all on him, the roster stinks.

Eakins wasn't the right coach....but no way did I put it all on him, the roster stinks.
- Jeropotato

But look how much better they are under Nelson... oh wait never mind.

But look how much better they are under Nelson... oh wait never mind.
- Dangles13

Yup. I guess a pound of flesh doesn't buy many more wins, does it? Not surprising, with Eakins gone the heat has quadrupled on Mac T.

tank for two seasons and draft in the top 3. oh wow, what genius. yeah, its really difficult to ice a terrible team.

this is not on purpose. he ended up here.

Yup. I guess a pound of flesh doesn't buy many more wins, does it? Not surprising, with Eakins gone the heat has quadrupled on Mac T.
- Jeropotato

Yeah the team really didn't come alive like is the usual when the coach gets the axe.

Despite what Mac said publicly , I beleive 100% that he will trade pieces of the core. He isn't gonna say it to media before it happens, but when the time is right (soon) and the right deal presents itself I think he pulls the trigger.
I will bet that MacTavish will trade away 2 of Eberle, Yak or Schitz before next season.

This is a big IF but if he is able to secure some legitimate, long term solutions on D and in net by trading 2 of those 3, then I will start to be a little more lenient in my criticisms.

The hard truth is, by making those trades (even if necessary) it means this is a whole new rebuild (poor fans) BUT the light at the end of the tunnel is actually real this time. In 3 or 4 years the new franchise draft pick(s) coupled with the D prospects having a few years to get their feet wet in the NHL will actually start to resemble a cohesive unit.

This is a big IF but if he is able to secure some legitimate, long term solutions on D and in net by trading 2 of those 3, then I will start to be a little more lenient in my criticisms.

The hard truth is, by making those trades (even if necessary) it means this is a whole new rebuild (poor fans) BUT the light at the end of the tunnel is actually real this time. In 3 or 4 years the new franchise draft pick(s) coupled with the D prospects having a few years to get their feet wet in the NHL will actually start to resemble a cohesive unit.
- tom_delonge_ava

Damage is done, try to find quality players who want to stay in Edmonton after this joke

This is a big IF but if he is able to secure some legitimate, long term solutions on D and in net by trading 2 of those 3, then I will start to be a little more lenient in my criticisms.

The hard truth is, by making those trades (even if necessary) it means this is a whole new rebuild (poor fans) BUT the light at the end of the tunnel is actually real this time. In 3 or 4 years the new franchise draft pick(s) coupled with the D prospects having a few years to get their feet wet in the NHL will actually start to resemble a cohesive unit.
- tom_delonge_ava

you can be critical all you want, I'm Sure Mac T isn't gonna lose anymore sleep over it than anyone else on these threads.
It is a big if,but not so much dependant on Mac T's ability to have a conversation with another General Manager, but more so on the availability of said pieces. There are not that many teams with a spare staring goalie kicking around, and very few teams looking to move top pair D-Men.


Tell me. Regardless of price, what top pair long term solutions on D might be available in trade. I think Mac T would be willing but I just don't see much available, and I probably spokesure out of wishful thinking.

Damage is done, try to find quality players who want to stay in Edmonton after this joke
- cdjaakkola

There some truth to that....but we haven't been able to lure quality players to Edmonton for 25 years.....looks like our only option is to continue to draft high and fill holes with plugs.

There some truth to that....but we haven't been able to lure quality players to Edmonton for 25 years.....looks like our only option is to continue to draft high and fill holes with plugs.
- Jeropotato

This is right, also noticed MacT is deliberately going after guys from Alberta... good move

It means that if they played ten games, Canada would lose one.
- James_Tanner

Right, and I asked what it meant in the context of the WJHC and, more importantly, a single elimination semi final game. Teams barely play 10 games in the whole tourney, including exhibitions, so I'm not sure the whole 'variability' argument makes much sense here, in the sense that there isn't much room for variability.

Also, in the context of the article ('only way Canada doesn't win the tournament is luck and variability'), I'm confused because Canada hasn't won in the past five years. Are you saying they're due, or what?

Edit: teams play 3 exhibition games (Canada went 2-1, losing to Russian), 4 group stage games and a possible 3 metal round games. So, hopefully Canada will win gold, finish the tourney with a 9-1 record and Tanner and his variability argument will win the day!

This is right, also noticed MacT is deliberately going after guys from Alberta... good move
- cdjaakkola

Not sure how deliberate it is , but if you say so.

What the (frank) does that matter? Stamkos wasn't clubbing it up back in '08

Don't ever compare RNH to Daigle/Stefan.

Mcdavid/Eichel are tagged as generational players the same as Crosby/Stamkos were. So selecting these two would be like drafting a "Crosby/Stamkos/Toews"
- nanook82

1) Because by the second half of the first year he looked great. For Draisaitl, sure, we'll see...but Nuge, Eberle and Yak? All meh, meh and meh.

2) Why? Not living up to expectations, just like the other two. RNH wouldn't be a scoring line center on most, if not all, playoff bound teams.

3) "Tagged as generational players". What a joke. McDavid, sure... he has a great chance at it, and will probably be a great player. Eichel? Meh. Not impressed.

Stammer was never called a generational player, nor is he. He is a solid first line center that, prior to Yzerman putting together a great team through veteran signings and smart drafting (you do realize there are more rounds than the first, right?), Stamkos, even with Marty and Vinny, was scoring but the team was a train wreck.

Keep drinking the kool-aid though, and the nice part is that if you spill some on your "Nuge" jersey it may actually go up in value.

Not sure how deliberate it is , but if you say so.
- Jeropotato

Honestly, it must be deliberate and smart at that!

1) Because by the second half of the first year he looked great. For Draisaitl, sure, we'll see...but Nuge, Eberle and Yak? All meh, meh and meh.

2) Why? Not living up to expectations, just like the other two. RNH wouldn't be a scoring line center on most, if not all, playoff bound teams.

3) "Tagged as generational players". What a joke. McDavid, sure... he has a great chance at it, and will probably be a great player. Eichel? Meh. Not impressed.

Stammer was never called a generational player, nor is he. He is a solid first line center that, prior to Yzerman putting together a great team through veteran signings and smart drafting (you do realize there are more rounds than the first, right?), Stamkos, even with Marty and Vinny, was scoring but the team was a train wreck.

Keep drinking the kool-aid though, and the nice part is that if you spill some on your "Nuge" jersey it may actually go up in value.
- OzBolts

Settle down pal. Nobody ever expected Nuge to be as productive as Stammer, and don't be so humble, Stamkos is more than just a 'solid' NHL 1st line Center.

My hopes for RNH is that he can develope similarly to Sedin in Vancouver. You might call that 'meh', I call it a solid and productive NHL center.

And by the way, what are the expectations of RNH at this stage of his career that he isn't living up to? I was hoping for 65 points.

I would way rather be called an idiot.
- James_Tanner

I think a lot of people would agree you should be.

Congratulations. You have managed to lay the biggest pile of steaming crap this website has ever produced. Ever.

The Oilers will draft Eichel (most likely) and win a cup within 3 years.
- James_Tanner

This is your cherry on top of that pile of crap.

Why would EDM deserve the #1 or 2 ahead of BUFF, ARI, or CAR?
- VanHockeyGuy

The worst team deserves to get the best prospect. It's the system that is in place to ensure competitiveness in the league so the bad teams aren't in that spot forever. (frank) am I sick of all the retards on here saying the system needs to be changed. It's not an Oiler fan thing I agree with this system in other leagues as well. The NBA's draft lottery is completely ridiculous.

Rebuild the rebuild? You know you (frank)ed up big time when.....
- Nucker101

I think you know you (frank)ed up when you cheer for an organization that has never won anything and when they came close and failed, their fans embarrassed their entire country and the league they play in.

The worst team deserves to get the best prospect. It's the system that is in place to ensure competitiveness in the league so the bad teams aren't in that spot forever. (frank) am I sick of all the retards on here saying the system needs to be changed. It's not an Oiler fan thing I agree with this system in other leagues as well. The NBA's draft lottery is completely ridiculous.
- Ihatebrianburke

I kinda envy you! You only have to watch the draft and not waste many months watching hockey

Vermette?
- VanHockeyGuy

Ya lets get a UFA that probably won't resign in the offseason. You're a real ass clown

I kinda envy you! You only have to watch the draft and not waste many months watching hockey
- cdjaakkola

Do you HAVE to watch hockey?

I kinda envy you! You only have to watch the draft and not waste many months watching hockey
- cdjaakkola

Guess what? I'm a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan. I already have a 1st overall on the way