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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 3 @ 2:44 PM ET
Plus, I'm within the belief that Simmonds and Read have two of the most reasonable deals in the league. Even with Read not playing up to standards, his money still looks pretty good.
- SuperSchennBros

if read can get back to how he was last year and the year prior, his money is very reasonable.

i think simmonds deal is one of the best in the league.

right now with how he is playing, it is hard to top jake, but i do think he will cash in a bit when his time comes.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
if read can get back to how he was last year and the year prior, his money is very reasonable.

i think simmonds deal is one of the best in the league.

right now with how he is playing, it is hard to top jake, but i do think he will cash in a bit when his time comes.

- stayinthefnnet


I don't think Jake will ever top out at G money but at 6 million, I think a love hate relationship is bound to boil between him and fans.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
I never saw this before...

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
I don't think Jake will ever top out at G money but at 6 million, I think a love hate relationship is bound to boil between him and fans.
- SuperSchennBros


if the cap does continue to rise, even 6 million a year is a good deal for jake. i could see him getting a bobby ryan type deal if he really wanted to push the issue.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 3 @ 2:58 PM ET
I never saw this before...


- SuperSchennBros


none of them are small children. thats really the only way that would bother me. other than that, good for giroux.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 3 @ 3:26 PM ET
This?
- wolfhounds

(frank) me. I had elevated blood pressure and goosebumps watching it 3 minutes ago. If I was watching the game last night...oh dear
steveromanowski
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jan 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
I think the flyers lack speed up front except for the obvious players like jake, laughton. The Defense is just not good enough IMO I would trade everyone of them except for Schultz and Striet( even though he has some bad qualities as well). I just don't see them winning anytime soon. At least G Jake and surprisingly the fourth line are fun to watch. Other then them just a boring hard to watch kind of game. I love my flyguys but hextall needs to do something. I love chief but starting to think if he really is the right guy for the job. excuse my horrible typing im typing with one hand lol
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
none of them are small children. thats really the only way that would bother me. other than that, good for giroux.
- stayinthefnnet

phew, was worried you might not approve
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
I'm sure this has been asked already but anyone think we could now flip Coburn to the Oilers for the Pens 1st? Pretty fair deal if you ask me.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 3 @ 3:58 PM ET
I'm sure this has been asked already but anyone think we could now flip Coburn to the Oilers for the Pens 1st? Pretty fair deal if you ask me.
- hereticpride


I would, in a heartbeat.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 4:12 PM ET
I'm sure this has been asked already but anyone think we could now flip Coburn to the Oilers for the Pens 1st? Pretty fair deal if you ask me.
- hereticpride

Yes. Having two firsts in the first round could lead to a lot of things, whether we choose to use them or flip them.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:19 PM ET
For all who post a video (please make them 400x300)

you will need to change the number "560" & "315"

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:26 PM ET
so demanding
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 3 @ 4:31 PM ET
i just hope the rumors of a few clubs interested in Vinny are true, but I have my doubts. If they could trade Vinny and 1 or 2 Dmen and net a couple of third rounders I'd be more than happy.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 4:32 PM ET
When they show up with no energy or effort it is on Berube, whether it is directly his fault or not. HC gets more credit in wins and more blame in losses, especially if they look inprepared or with lack of effort
- CACannon18


I can't wait until they fire Berube, but it's not as simple as having no energy or effort. It's largely an execution issue and the impact that has on all other facets of the game.

You can have Anthony Robbins as a coach, but if he's playing a defenseman who can't execute an outlet pass or maintain defensive coverage, guys on the team are going to see a dip in confidence, in energy and in most cases it will lead to more mistakes and errors.

Outside of icing players who can execute better, there's nothing a coach can do. If a team doesn't have confidence, it's going to look like it has no energy. Fact of life
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
I'm sure this has been asked already but anyone think we could now flip Coburn to the Oilers for the Pens 1st? Pretty fair deal if you ask me.
- hereticpride


Faster than I'd agree to a date with Kate Upton.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
Faster than I'd agree to a date with Kate Upton.
- Jsaquella


Gave an idea on that one earlier.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
if the cap does continue to rise, even 6 million a year is a good deal for jake. i could see him getting a bobby ryan type deal if he really wanted to push the issue.
- stayinthefnnet


He's getting $7mm+.

If he agreed to a $6mm a year deal, I'd sign him in a heartbeat for 8 years. That'd be a bargain.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 3 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'm sure this has been asked already but anyone think we could now flip Coburn to the Oilers for the Pens 1st? Pretty fair deal if you ask me.
- hereticpride

Id target Calgary, SJ, LA and St L
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
Gave an idea on that one earlier.
- ob18


Get a 2015 1st rounder for one of our defensemen? Done. No brainier.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 3 @ 4:42 PM ET
Coburn & B. Schenn to Edmonton for a 1st/2 2nds or 1st/2nd/prospect.
- ob18


Both Schenns and Coburn to the Oil for PIT's 2015 1st, and EDM's 2016 1st*,Marincin and whatever garbage they want to send back our way.

* - maybe they think the trade will make them better, lol, like Kessel

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
Id target Calgary, SJ, LA and St L
- KINGKENZO

True. If they could get a 1st for Coburn out of Calgary I'd be all over it. I like them a lot this year but they're the most likely first round exit of the bunch.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:11 PM ET
Both Schenns and Coburn to the Oil for PIT's 2015 1st, and EDM's 2016 1st*,Marincin and whatever garbage they want to send back our way.

* - maybe they think the trade will make them better, lol, like Kessel


- Tomahawk


Brayden Schenn would be tied with RNH as Edmonton's leading scorer
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jan 3 @ 5:11 PM ET
I can't wait until they fire Berube, but it's not as simple as having no energy or effort. It's largely an execution issue and the impact that has on all other facets of the game.

You can have Anthony Robbins as a coach, but if he's playing a defenseman who can't execute an outlet pass or maintain defensive coverage, guys on the team are going to see a dip in confidence, in energy and in most cases it will lead to more mistakes and errors.

Outside of icing players who can execute better, there's nothing a coach can do. If a team doesn't have confidence, it's going to look like it has no energy. Fact of life

- Jsaquella



We have all seen lesser teams work better together and that is what is most problematic /aggravating along with the people he dresses and who he sits and allotment of ice time. Look at the Jets resurgence this year with Paul Maurice.
I saw them lose to Tampa in the Peg in late October, but they have certainly got themselves well above 500. I am not saying their roster is overall lesser, but on paper which roster would you want?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 5:16 PM ET
Great. Giroux is game time decision, Laughton out with injury-will be re evaluated tomorrow- and Rinaldo in
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