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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
If it can be helped, I'd desperate hang on to the following names.

Claude Giroux, Jake Voracek, Steve Mason, Wayne Simmonds, Luke Schenn, Brayden Schenn, Sean Couturier, Matt Read and Scott Laughton.

These are all young NHL players for the moment who fill a need, regardless if we like these players or not. Still on the fence when it comes to Michael Del Zotto who also fills a need. I'm not saying all these names have to stay but only move certain guys if you can seriously upgrade.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
There are a ton of guys who can't be traded because of their contracts. VLC, Umberger, MacDonald all going nowhere.

Coburn's value has to be at an all time low. He was once worth a first round pick, now I don't think you can get a first rounder for him. Outside of that, who do you want to trade?

- PLindbergh31


Perron was worth a 1st, Coburn should still snag one...Perron was playing badly in Edmonton
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jan 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
I blamed Laviolette because I felt he had a playoff caliber roster to start last season and refused to adapt to better utilize his players. I also didn't like how he handled many of the youngsters-bouncing Schenn all over, pigeon-holing Couturier, Bobrovsky-and didn't see that getting better.

I blame Berube because I disagree with many of his line up decisions and player usage habits. I don't blame him for their record, because I fully expected this team to miss the playoffs.

- Jsaquella

its no secret lavy wears on his players and they ultimately tune him out, some ppl are too stubborn to accept that reality.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
Perron was worth a 1st, Coburn should still snag one...Perron was playing badly in Edmonton
- Jsaquella

Coburn to the Oil for Pitts #1
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jan 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
Perron was worth a 1st, Coburn should still snag one...Perron was playing badly in Edmonton
- Jsaquella



Sadly, Coburn is going to be worth something like.. Chicago, Nashville, or L.A.'s 1st, and not Edmonton's 1st.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 3 @ 8:59 PM ET
I wasn't one of them. They owed Laviolette a trade, and they owe Berube one, too

The problem is the NHL continues to change. That was how it always used to be.

But Eakins and DeBoer got the shiv without getting any help from the GM first

- AllInForFlyers


They don't need to get rid of Chief asap b/c the next guy could win a few more games... they need to axe him b/c so many of his decisions are detrimental to development.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
Perron was worth a 1st, Coburn should still snag one...Perron was playing badly in Edmonton
- Jsaquella


In theory you would think that is the case, but it's probably not true. Look at the returns Douglas Murray, and Pavel Kubina netted. Do you think the Flyers can get anything close to those packages for Nik Grossmann, who is a better player than either of those guys?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
I hear you guys: No trade.

This is what we have, then -- Murray or someone might help some, but I do think this roster needs more surgery than a coach can handle
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
Might be leight but Jagr oldest player to score a hattrick in the NHL beating out Gordie's last hattie as a 41st year old.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 3 @ 9:02 PM ET
Coburn to the Oil for Pitts #1
- vejim

It might be time.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 3 @ 9:02 PM ET
If it can be helped, I'd desperate hang on to the following names.

Claude Giroux, Jake Voracek, Steve Mason, Wayne Simmonds, Luke Schenn, Brayden Schenn, Sean Couturier, Matt Read and Scott Laughton.

These are all young NHL players for the moment who fill a need, regardless if we like these players or not. Still on the fence when it comes to Michael Del Zotto who also fills a need. I'm not saying all these names have to stay but only move certain guys if you can seriously upgrade.

- SuperSchennBros



The problem is if you aren't willing to move some of the supplementary players you listed above you aren't getting much more then mid - late draft picks for anyone else.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 9:02 PM ET
And of course, Capgeek ceased operations tonight.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:02 PM ET
I hear you guys: No trade.

This is what we have, then -- Murray or someone might help some, but I do think this roster needs more surgery than a coach can handle

- AllInForFlyers

the penalty kill is dead last, they need Murray
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 9:03 PM ET
And of course, Capgeek ceased operations tonight.
- Jsaquella



Are you (frank)ing kidding me?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 3 @ 9:03 PM ET
And of course, Capgeek ceased operations tonight.
- Jsaquella


WTF
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:04 PM ET
Perron was worth a 1st, Coburn should still snag one...Perron was playing badly in Edmonton
- Jsaquella

Honestly I'll be pleasantly surprised if Coburn pulls a 1st rounder. A year ago and before definitely, but after this season, compounded by the mess Philadelphia D corps is in, I don't see it.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 3 @ 9:04 PM ET
I don't even think the mumps want any part of this team.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 9:04 PM ET
WTF
- Tomahawk


Accordingto their page, their founder, Matthew Wuest is facing some serious health issues.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
I don't even think the mumps want any part of this team.
- 77rams

Zing. Looks like a tweet.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
I don't even think the mumps want any part of this team.
- 77rams

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
Honestly I'll be pleasantly surprised if Coburn pulls a 1st rounder. A year ago and before definitely, but after this season, compounded by the mess Philadelphia D corps is in, I don't see it.
- Pixote Andolini


I think he can. GM's recognize that he's much better than he's shown, when used right.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
Accordingto their page, their founder, Matthew Wuest is facing some serious health issues.
- Jsaquella

Ahhh that's bad news. Capgeek is a treasure.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
Accordingto their page, their founder, Matthew Wuest is facing some serious health issues.
- Jsaquella


We have a guy here who knows everything about the CBA. No worries
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 3 @ 9:06 PM ET
its no secret lavy wears on his players and they ultimately tune him out, some ppl are too stubborn to accept that reality.
- JoeRussomanno


Who tuned him out? Giroux? Timonen? Briere? Who was on the team for more that 2 years when he was here?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 3 @ 9:06 PM ET
Accordingto their page, their founder, Matthew Wuest is facing some serious health issues.
- Jsaquella


Ugh -- best of luck to him. Sounds dire

That site will be sorely, sorely missed
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