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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 2 @ 4:55 PM ET
That's the thing, with Morin a year older and 2 years removed from his draft year, he should be at least ready to play some sheltered minutes at the NHL level. Ghost too and possibly Hagg. Sanheim may even be ready. These guys can't be blocked by a guy like Schultz or Grossmann. At some point, too much seasoning in the minors could be detrimental to the young dmen's development.
- NickTheKid87


They should really have a couple of low priced vets to fill out the roster. Guys who can play, but you won't care if they're scratched in favor of younger players.

It is a tough pill to swallow to see players making 3.5M+ in the press box every night. It also kills any trade value they might have had.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 2 @ 4:58 PM ET
keeping Schultz fits the plan in the latter portion of your post
- BulliesPhan87


He would be ideal, but I think the 2nd or 3rd round pick is more valuable in the long run. I don't think he's going to come cheap either. I have a feeling we're looking at 2yr $2.5M AAV
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 4:59 PM ET
He would be ideal, but I think the 2nd or 3rd round pick is more valuable in the long run. I don't think he's going to come cheap either. I have a feeling we're looking at 2yr $2.5M AAV
- PhillySportsGuy


I can see 2x2, maybe 2x2.25...2.5, I walk away from, but that's just me

Some others' mileage may vary, but $2.5 is where I walk
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 4:59 PM ET
Man, I'm as intense as anybody, but if Nick Schultz signs a two-year, $1.75 per contract, I'm shrugging and not giving a (frank)
- AllInForFlyers


it wouldn't be the end of the world. The thing is there is so much work to be done on the Flyers blueline, worrying about signing Schultz before addressing the other dire needs is kinda like worrying about your hang nail, when your throats been severed.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:00 PM ET
He would be ideal, but I think the 2nd or 3rd round pick is more valuable in the long run. I don't think he's going to come cheap either. I have a feeling we're looking at 2yr $2.5M AAV
- PhillySportsGuy


Better not be...
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:04 PM ET
it wouldn't be the end of the world. The thing is there is so much work to be done on the Flyers blueline, worrying about signing Schultz before addressing the other dire needs is kinda like worrying about your hang nail, when your throats been severed.
- PLindbergh31


That's me, as well -- yeah, if he winds up being the No. 7 at 1.75 or so, that could feel a little pricey, but his skating stride looks good enough where I think he'll hold up for the duration of a two-year deal and he'd likely play enough, even if he moves to the No. 7, to justify it

Just bigger problems than him -- got to figure out how to make sure these young guys are core guys, got to figure out how in the (frank) to tighten up this system to where they're giving up around 2.5 goals a game, got to get this (frank)ing penalty kill fixed
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:06 PM ET
That's me, as well -- yeah, if he winds up being the No. 7 at 1.75 or so, that could feel a little pricey, but his skating stride looks good enough where I think he'll hold up for the duration of a two-year deal and he'd likely play enough, even if he moves to the No. 7, to justify it

Just bigger problems than him -- got to figure out how to make sure these young guys are core guys, got to figure out how in the (frank) to tighten up this system to where they're giving up around 2.5 goals a game, got to get this (frank)ing penalty kill fixed

- AllInForFlyers


hey well if youll pay around 3 and a half for your number 6, whats 1.75 for your 7?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 2 @ 5:07 PM ET
I wouldn't consider it a mistake if they kept a cost controlled blueliner over that third round pick. I wouldn't be bothered if they got the pick, either. It's all kind of... whatever, y'know?
- BulliesPhan87


It's not really a mistake, either way. We're talking about trading Nick Schultz, not Shea Weber.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:07 PM ET
It's not mutually exclusive, though -- at some point, you do have to have guys on the NHL roster who can actually play a role, preferably have some experience.

It's entirely possible that Schenn and Coburn are gone next season, as well as Del Zotto and Colicacovo. That is entirely possible.

That's four guys out of the eight you are currently carrying. There aren't even four prospects in the Flyers system who are remotely ready to handle that kind of load.

Somebody's gotta play defense next year. Schultz, out of all the guys I listed, is likely going to cost the least and, arguably, do the least harm at the price point he will have

- AllInForFlyers


I think Coburn and Streit are different than the rest. I would want more for them than the others. I would take a 2nd rounder for any defenseman not named Streit or Coburn. I would probably take a 3rd for most of them assuming there was no retention of money.

The Flyers can replace most of these guys in FA. Hextall went out and got 2 guys who have played better than every incumbent except maybe Streit. I have confidence he can do it again.

Maybe they make a push to bring Gus back and promise him a top 6 role to start the season. He'd come pretty cheap.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:08 PM ET
Better not be...
- Tomahawk


No reason to ask for anything less
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:09 PM ET
hey well if youll pay around 3 and a half for your number 6, whats 1.75 for your 7?
- stayinthefnnet


Ha! That's getting rectified, my friend. Of that, I have little doubt
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
I think Coburn and Streit are different than the rest. I would want more for them than the others. I would take a 2nd rounder for any defenseman not named Streit or Coburn. I would probably take a 3rd for most of them assuming there was no retention of money.

The Flyers can replace most of these guys in FA. Hextall went out and got 2 guys who have played better than every incumbent except maybe Streit. I have confidence he can do it again.

Maybe they make a push to bring Gus back and promise him a top 6 role to start the season. He'd come pretty cheap.

- PhillySportsGuy


If it's me, I keep Streit and I move Coburn for the biggest haul possible

I love Coburn but it's time
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
perron is worth a 1st?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
perron is worth a 1st?
- Winning

depends. im happy with it
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
Lindblom
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
lindholm is the next zetterberg
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
Lindblom with some sweet moves and scores.

5-3!
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:13 PM ET
Fins lose this because of how sad their PP is.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:15 PM ET
Ha! That's getting rectified, my friend. Of that, I have little doubt
- AllInForFlyers


you think?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:27 PM ET
depends. im happy with it
- stayinthefnnet


I'm digging the trade from both side's perspectives.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:29 PM ET
If it's me, I keep Streit and I move Coburn for the biggest haul possible

I love Coburn but it's time

- AllInForFlyers


i am with you
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:30 PM ET
lindholm is the next zetterberg
- Winning



excellent
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 5:31 PM ET
It's not mutually exclusive, though -- at some point, you do have to have guys on the NHL roster who can actually play a role, preferably have some experience.

It's entirely possible that Schenn and Coburn are gone next season, as well as Del Zotto and Colicacovo. That is entirely possible.

That's four guys out of the eight you are currently carrying. There aren't even four prospects in the Flyers system who are remotely ready to handle that kind of load.

Somebody's gotta play defense next year. Schultz, out of all the guys I listed, is likely going to cost the least and, arguably, do the least harm at the price point he will have

- AllInForFlyers



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 5:32 PM ET
He would be ideal, but I think the 2nd or 3rd round pick is more valuable in the long run. I don't think he's going to come cheap either. I have a feeling we're looking at 2yr $2.5M AAV
- PhillySportsGuy


I would pass on that number. 2 years at 2M AAV is as high as I would go.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:33 PM ET
excellent
- -davies-

Which Lindholm was he talking about? Hampus or Elias? Im guessing Elias since he's a forward.
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