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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 2 @ 1:56 PM ET
I just don't see why they need to jump the gun on him. He's played well, but he's not irreplaceable. I doubt any team is going to offer something unmatchable.
- PhillySportsGuy


Dunno.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 2 @ 1:56 PM ET
You were begging for it. Do you even read your own posts before hitting 'enter'? Sheesh.


- tangent_man


I let my 5 year old proof read everything.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
Yup. If they sign Schultz for 2 years at $1.75mm and then dump Grossmann or Schenn, great. But despite exceeding expectations, it's not like Schultz has been exceptionally good
- Jsaquella


Maybe he brings something else to the table that they like. We'll see how it plays out.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
Yup. If they sign Schultz for 2 years at $1.75mm and then dump Grossmann or Schenn, great. But despite exceeding expectations, it's not like Schultz has been exceptionally good
- Jsaquella


That's a good point. Exceeding expectations does not mean playing really well. Any more than 2 years and $2m a year and I'd be really peeved.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
It has to be overt. I've done nothing but give Vinny credit since he came out of the Shelley Suite.

Still wondering why the rush to re-sign Schultz. They have enough 4-7 defensemen to start a commune in Guyana

- Jsaquella



If they are interested in bringing Schultz back, there is no reason not to go ahead and get it done.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
I let my 5 year old proof read everything.
- nails


You don't come around as much as you used to. Nice to see you making more appearances lately.

Hope all is going well for you.

(See, I didn't even mention that the kid should be given editing responsibilities. I can be nice.)


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
It's almost comical how he's outplayed AMac in every conceivable fashion, including puck-moving, while on a 1-year value deal.


- Tomahawk


If it wasn't true it would be comical. Absolutely amazing. A guy acquired from the bargain bin is playing better than a player Holmgren gave up assets for the right to overpay. JFC.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
If they are ainterestd in bringing Schultz back, there is no reason not to go ahead and get it done.
- MJL

Besides committing to another bottom pairing d-man.

KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
Maybe they got a late first so they can trade for Coburn. Not gonna trade a potential McDavid or Eichel pick for Coburn.
- Jsaquella

Re Coburn

id target a western team underperforming or on the cusp of the playoffs. Id love to make a deal with Calgary. They are playing well, maybe view BC as a piece that could improve their team now with the chance to resign him. They aslo maybe a mirage, and if thats the case, Flyers get a much better pick. Other teams id look at, LA, SJ and St L
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
That's a good point. Exceeding expectations does not mean playing really well. Any more than 2 years and $2m a year and I'd be really peeved.
- NickTheKid87



It's about value, risk, and the need going forward. Schultz fits a need for this team in the next season or two perfectly.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
If it wasn't true it would be comical. Absolutely amazing. A guy acquired from the bargain bin is playing better than a player Holmgren gave up assets for the right to overpay. JFC.
- PLindbergh31

MacDonald is a legitimate top 4 NHL defenseman who moves the puck very well.

And the Pope is an Orthodox Jew.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
Besides committing to another bottom pairing d-man.
- jak521



Every team needs solid reliable veteran bottom pairing defenseman. Especially at the right price. It would be a solid move for the Flyers to retain Schultz in the right deal.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
3 reasons the Flyers should be in no rush to re-sign Schultz

1. His play could significantly tail off in the 2nd half

2. He could get injured

3. He's a more valuable trade chip at the deadline on a 1 year low cost deal
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
It's about value, risk, and the need going forward. Schultz fits a need for this team in the next season or two perfectly.
- MJL

As the team stands currently. Yes.

But what other options will be available this summer?

The only way I resign him, is if I am planning on moving another d-man.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
3 reasons the Flyers should be in no rush to re-sign Schultz

1. His play could significantly tail off in the 2nd half

2. He could get injured

3. He's a more valuable trade chip at the deadline on a 1 year low cost deal

- BiggE

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
MacDonald is a legitimate top 4 NHL defenseman who moves the puck very well.

And the Pope is an Orthodox Jew.

- jak521

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
As the team stands currently. Yes.

But what other options will be available this summer?

The only way I resign him, is if I am planning on moving another d-man.

- jak521



I'm pretty sure that at least one D man is going to be moved at some point. The Flyers can't have a complete firesale of defenseman. That would be a really bad move.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
You don't come around as much as you used to. Nice to see you making more appearances lately.

Hope all is going well for you.

(See, I didn't even mention that the kid should be given editing responsibilities. I can be nice.)

- tangent_man


I don't get to watch games much anymore, so i find it inappropriate of me to butch about the team too much.
and the kid is smarter than me already.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:11 PM ET
3 reasons the Flyers should be in no rush to re-sign Schultz

1. His play could significantly tail off in the 2nd half

2. He could get injured

3. He's a more valuable trade chip at the deadline on a 1 year low cost deal

- BiggE



1. That is true of any player.

2. Also true for any player, and shouldn't be a factor for a shirt term deal

3. I disagre with this. He is more valuable to keep then what I think he would fetch in a deadline deal. If he could fetch a 2nd, I'd trade him, but I don't see that happening. I'd rather keep him them add a 4-5th round pick.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
yea best thing since sliced bread, clearly
- JoeRussomanno

Yeah it's nice when VLC ends up on the score sheet but I wouldn't say he's been playing great. He's still consistently a defensive liability.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'm pretty sure that at least one D man is going to be moved at some point. The Flyers can't have a complete firesale of defenseman. That would be a really bad move.
- MJL

Not necessarily a fire sale, but they can move more than one d-man. Hell, they should.

If the d doesnt look marginally different next year, this team is gonna really struggle yet again.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
3 reasons the Flyers should be in no rush to re-sign Schultz

1. His play could significantly tail off in the 2nd half

2. He could get injured

3. He's a more valuable trade chip at the deadline on a 1 year low cost deal

- BiggE


Only time you sign him is after the deadline
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 2 @ 2:17 PM ET
MacDonald is a legitimate top 4 NHL defenseman who moves the puck very well.

And the Pope is an Orthodox Jew.

- jak521

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
Yeah it's nice when VLC ends up on the score sheet but I wouldn't say he's been playing great. He's still consistently a defensive liability.
- Pixote Andolini

I think that line has been pretty productive. They play very simple, straight-forward hockey.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
MacDonald is a legitimate top 4 NHL defenseman who moves the puck very well.

And the Pope is an Orthodox Jew.

- jak521


1 goal in 45 GP as a Flyer. Doesn't contribute anything on the PP, has done nothing to improve the PK, but hey his one above average metric shot blocking is down. He's been a complete bargain.

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