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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
bylsma is a very likable guy, with pros and cons of his own like any coach. however, i really do not think he is the guy you guys would want.
- stayinthefnnet


As opposed to Coach Face Punch! He's the answer!
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
Ha! Heatley is.....


- PLindbergh31

Even more so than Vinny I'm afraid.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 2:51 PM ET
OT.. my Bears fired Trestman and Emery... so far this has been an outstanding day..
- Hextall271

When they fire Cutler wake me up.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 2:52 PM ET
Even more so than Vinny I'm afraid.
- GOA88


Yep. I think so. VLC has shown some signs of life lately.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
Neither are NHL players, but VDV is better than Rinaldo. Rinaldo is a total waste of time.
- PLindbergh31


I'm not really a fan of either, so I agree..
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 29 @ 3:01 PM ET
I'm not really a fan of either, so I agree..
- WarriorHockey21

No coincidence that the 4th line has been much better without Rinaldo. Berube has him on a leash. He was more effective when playing like a loose cannon, at least then he laid some big momentum hits.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 29 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yep. I think so. VLC has shown some signs of life lately.
- PLindbergh31


Meh, it's probably more like the twitching due to nerves before the still. Shouldn't be mistaken as life.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 3:05 PM ET
No coincidence that the 4th line has been much better without Rinaldo. Berube has him on a leash. He was more effective when playing like a loose cannon, at least then he laid some big momentum hits.
- GOA88


He's never really been effective. One season out of four he managed to draw more penalties than he took. The rest of the time he's been a low skilled guy running around and hitting people and taking a ton of penalties.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 3:35 PM ET
Hilarious. A show revolving around a professional troll, and fake arguments. It's amazing that people watch that poop...

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
bylsma is a very likable guy, with pros and cons of his own like any coach. however, i really do not think he is the guy you guys would want.
- stayinthefnnet


It would be laughable if the pendulum swung yet again. Defense first to whatever the (frank) Stevens was, to offense heavy under Lava and back to strict d-first under Berube.

Merry go round.

coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 29 @ 3:54 PM ET
Anyone watching USA game have a link? Cheers!
Gilly17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boyertown, PA
Joined: 07.04.2013

Dec 29 @ 4:10 PM ET
Wasn't he one of the names mentioned last year in the rumored Coburn deal?
- section32


I believe he was before the 2013 draft
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 29 @ 4:12 PM ET
Hilarious. A show revolving around a professional troll, and fake arguments. It's amazing that people watch that poop...


- PLindbergh31



Even more amazing that people keep track of what was said.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Dec 29 @ 4:15 PM ET
i root for them and they start to tank....i root for the tank and they start to win....i hate being a fan of a mediocre team !
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
Even more amazing that people keep track of what was said.
- Scoob


Touche.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 29 @ 4:21 PM ET
No coincidence that the 4th line has been much better without Rinaldo. Berube has him on a leash. He was more effective when playing like a loose cannon, at least then he laid some big momentum hits.
- GOA88



One thing I notice in the Nashville game was they had no physicality to their game. i hope it was because of the layoff. I know the fourth line has played better but i still think i would rather have White over Vandevelde as this team seemed to look even softer. Just from what I saw. That could all change tonight
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:24 PM ET
i root for them and they start to tank....i root for the tank and they start to win....i hate being a fan of a mediocre team !
- PhillaBully


4real?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
Longer this goes as 0-0 the better for the Slovaks.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
i root for them and they start to tank....i root for the tank and they start to win....i hate being a fan of a mediocre team !
- PhillaBully

At this point I don't root at all, for or against. They're just bad and they're buried.

Look at Columbus, they won 7 in a row and barely pulled ahead of the Flyers let alone back into the playoff race. Now they're behind us again. If the Flyers tear off 10 in a row they might get to within 4 points of a wild card spot. What are the chances this team is going to win 10 in a row?

If Washington goes .500 the rest of the way our boys would need to go 27-19-1 to close out the year just to tie them for 8th. Forget it.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
From the limited time I've seen Eichel is who I am liking better over the golden child.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
At this point I don't root at all, for or against. They're just bad and they're buried.

Look at Columbus, they won 7 in a row and barely pulled ahead of the Flyers let alone back into the playoff race. Now they're behind us again. If the Flyers tear off 10 in a row they might get to within 4 points of a wild card spot. What are the chances this team is going to win 10 in a row?

If Washington goes .500 the rest of the way our boys would need to go 27-19-1 to close out the year just to tie them for 8th. Forget it.

- mayorofangrytown


It's all of the (frank)ing 3 points games. Once you get behind at this point in the season, it's really an uphill climb.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:49 PM ET
It's all of the (frank)ing 3 points games. Once you get behind at this point in the season, it's really an uphill climb.
- PhillySportsGuy


The flyers had what points in 8 of their last 9 before nashville and basically made up zero ground.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
The flyers had what points in 8 of their last 9 before nashville and basically made up zero ground.
- Just5


It's definitely a flawed point system. A team that plays conservatively all game, gets to the shootout and wins a skills competition earns the same amount of points as a team that dominates and wins 5-0.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
It's all of the (frank)ing 3 points games. Once you get behind at this point in the season, it's really an uphill climb.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah, the climb up the standings from where we are is daunting. If they were playing well I could see it but game to game you never know what you're getting.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Dec 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
True, but Stolarz & Alt aren't top shelf guys. Neither are Straka, Leier or Cousins. They have some good depth guys there, and stability is a good thing, but at the same time there's a finite window on MDZ & Colaiacovo.
- Jsaquella

What is the definition of top shelf guy?

Because nothing Stolarz has done suggest he WON'T be a top shelf guy. 2nd round pick. Was great for the Knights in the Regular and Post season, has been great for the Phantoms when he's played. Raw skills and Physical tools? Well the man is 6 foot 6, 220 pounds, and that doesn't in any way shape or form effect his movement, the guy is quick. Are we talking future about potential?

Last 2 goalies i remember being considered can't miss prospects were Markstrom and Jack Campbell? maybe im missing someone else... their stats don't even compare to Stolarz in his first pro season. Now there's a long way to go in the AHL season but i don't forsee a huge drop in Stollie's numbers.

If Hagg is considered a top shelf guy, than so does Stolarz.

I agree though that the rest aren't, at best with Alt you've got 6/7 maybe 5th dman, Straka and Leier and Cousins all basically 3rd line players.

edit: now obviously goalie is a very different position and all about timing really. If you're stuck behind a Tuuka Rask you won't really get a chance to show those things of for a while and could be traded for pieces i.e. Markstrom but talent wise i think Stolarz definitely deserves to thought of as a top shelf guy.
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