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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 26 @ 11:26 AM ET
I have two daughters between 8-10. I blame Frozen for a great many things
- Jsaquella

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
Looking forward to watching them play the Preds -- be a good test for them, give us a real idea what we're looking at

Laviolette's system and players can be difficult on the Flyers, but that being said, the Flyers, when Couturier and Read are playing well, can really counterattack. We'll see how involved Nashville's D is, but maybe the Flyers can get one or two if they defend well enough

As always, it's about how the Flyers defend, really
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Dec 26 @ 12:05 PM ET
Seguin on pace for 62 goals.
Jake on pace for 111 points.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 26 @ 12:39 PM ET
Devils fire DeBoer per Bob McKenzie on twitter
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 26 @ 12:48 PM ET
Devils fire DeBoer per Bob McKenzie on twitter
- Jsaquella

great christmas gift
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
Devils fire DeBoer per Bob McKenzie on twitter
- Jsaquella


Market is hot. Should see if Berube has any trade value
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 26 @ 1:01 PM ET
I have two daughters between 8-10. I blame Frozen for a great many things
- Jsaquella


just let it go, man.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
Devils fire DeBoer per Bob McKenzie on twitter
- Jsaquella


ah, cousin eddie gets the boot. i love it when the devils fire coaches. except in 2000.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 26 @ 1:04 PM ET
great christmas gift
- 2Real

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Dec 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
just let it go, man.
- hammarby31


lol
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
great christmas gift
- 2Real


for who? him or you?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
Devils fire DeBoer per Bob McKenzie on twitter
- Jsaquella

Good coach with a sub par roster. Though I do wonder how much of a hand he had in fudging up Larsson.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
great christmas gift
- 2Real

Boxing day is even bigger then Xmas where I live...that's got to hurt...they couldn't have waited till the new year?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
Seemed to me like Homer wanted to shift directions and go full Bruins/Rangers, started adding the personnel to fit that vision, and pretty much mandated to Lavi that he become Claude Julien or else.

Should have just fired Lavi the minute they stopped believing in his system, instead of expecting a tiger to change his stripes.

- Tomahawk


Probably true. If Homer truly wanted to take the team in a different direction, I would think a straight up firing after the lockout season (like many of us wanted) would have sent that message. I truly think that Homer thought that, with a guy like Lecavalier in the fold and some youth growing up a bit, that he and Laviolette could salvage the roster, as constituted, when they went into last season. You saw how well that worked out.

I think what happened in the end wasn't as sinister as Paul Holmgren just passive aggressively (frank)ing Peter Laviolette over. I think Holmgren just swung and missed on some moves and had no plan B, because there was no organizational depth (also, kind of Homer's fault).
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 26 @ 1:44 PM ET
Good coach with a sub par roster. Though I do wonder how much of a hand he had in fudging up Larsson.
- hereticpride


This feels like Uncle Lou running out of answers.

Don't worry, Lou, the KHL will fold soon and you'll have your first round pick AND Ilya Kovalchuk back with the team.

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 26 @ 1:46 PM ET
Is the recent stretch of good games by vlc sustainable?

The fourth line has looked really decent of late.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
Good coach with a sub par roster. Though I do wonder how much of a hand he had in fudging up Larsson.
- hereticpride


I know DeBoer was a junior hockey coaching whiz, but this is twice he's been fired at the NHL level. Coaches are hired to be fired....everyone knows this.

But I don't really know what this guy has done to enjoy "he's a good coach" kudos at the NHL level.

If someone wants to play agent for DeBoer here and sell me on him, feel free.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Dec 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
I know DeBoer was a junior hockey coaching whiz, but this is twice he's been fired at the NHL level. Coaches are hired to be fired....everyone knows this.

But I don't really know what this guy has done to enjoy "he's a good coach" kudos at the NHL level.

If someone wants to play agent for DeBoer here and sell me on him, feel free.

- johndewar


He took an average at best roster with no superstars and a past his prime Brodeur to the Stanley Cup Final and would have made the playoffs last year if they got a couple shootout wins.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
Its that time of year again!

Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Dec 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
He took an average at best roster with no superstars and a past his prime Brodeur to the Stanley Cup Final and would have made the playoffs last year if they got a couple shootout wins.
- aflyerpower8


Kovalchuk wasnt a superstar?
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Dec 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
Kovalchuk wasnt a superstar?
- Trainfellow


Touche, I forgot what year he left.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Dec 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
Last season vs this season thru christmas break:

Last season
36GP 16W 16L 4OT 36P LOST 1

This season
34GP 14W 14L 6OT 34P WON 3
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
Last season vs this season thru christmas break:

Last season
36GP 16W 16L 4OT 36P LOST 1

This season
34GP 14W 14L 6OT 34P WON 3

- JAKEw1234

It's amazing what a three game win streak can do, we actually look acceptable compared to last year. Can we go on a super run though? Without Mason or a good D corps?

Does anyone have a link to the WJC game playing right now?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Dec 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
I know DeBoer was a junior hockey coaching whiz, but this is twice he's been fired at the NHL level. Coaches are hired to be fired....everyone knows this.

But I don't really know what this guy has done to enjoy "he's a good coach" kudos at the NHL level.

If someone wants to play agent for DeBoer here and sell me on him, feel free.

- johndewar

He took a Panthers team who had lost their top scorer, OLLI JOKINEN, and whose starting goalie was Thomas Vokoun, and tied Montreal with enough points to make the playoffs, losing out on the playoffs cause of ROW even though they had 93 points. He took that team, a team whose top scorer was Weiss with 61 points, and made them a 93 point team. He took the Devils to the cup final. I don't think he's ever really had a super capable roster at the NHL level, albeit he did have Kovy, Parise, and Elias scoring a point per game. If he was the coach here I don't doubt that he could buy the youth some time, and have this team playing better than it's roster for a couple years.
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