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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:32 PM ET
We need to maximize the assets that we do have because we have so few. It would be silly to throw any away
- bezz44

Higgins and Burrows are not assets though.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 12:32 PM ET
Fla are in the playoffs . At least they were yesterday and NYI are playoff bound too.
- VANTEL

FLA also won their division two years ago and the NYI were in the playoffs as well. Each followed up their playoff debut with a top 5 pick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:32 PM ET
We need to maximize the assets that we do have because we have so few. It would be silly to throw any away
- bezz44

Higgins and Burrows are not assets though.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
Higgins and Burrows are not assets though.
- VANTEL

Burrows maybe you have a point. If you do not think teams will pay for Higgins you are crazy
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:35 PM ET
Burrows maybe you have a point. If you do not think teams will pay for Higgins you are crazy
- bezz44

Higgy is a good depth player, teams will pay for his services at his $$$ value. With us though, he's one of the reasons we're spinning our wheels.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:37 PM ET
Burrows maybe you have a point. If you do not think teams will pay for Higgins you are crazy
- bezz44


5 goals third line players don't usually bring in huge returns
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 19 @ 12:38 PM ET
Friedman "if they
- LeftCoaster[Boston] can get him [Kassian] to be who he can be, and he hasn't been that yet, he will be what they're missing"


I guess once we move past who we would prefer to move like Burrows because of his cap hit or Higgins and Burrows then there are likely more possible trading partners.

Just happy to hear a rumour. And glad to hear that Benning talks to most of the other teams as much as twice a week. Which likely means that when there is a trade, we won't hear rumblings from other clubs that they never knew that player was available like CH.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 12:40 PM ET
5 goals third line players don't usually bring in huge returns
- VANTEL

He is a 40 pt. player and is usually around 20 goals don't sell him short. I would ask for a first next year or a 2015 2nd and a decent D prospect
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 12:42 PM ET
Higgy is a good depth player, teams will pay for his services at his $$$ value. With us though, he's one of the reasons we're spinning our wheels.
- LeftCoaster

Mostly because that 2nd line is a patchwork of guys who can play like 2nd liners sometimes, and 3rd liners other times
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
He is a 40 pt. player and is usually around 20 goals don't sell him short. I would ask for a first next year or a 2015 2nd and a decent D prospect
- bezz44


Mike gillis ? Is that you ?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:44 PM ET
He is a 40 pt. player and is usually around 20 goals don't sell him short. I would ask for a first next year or a 2015 2nd and a decent D prospect
- bezz44


Go take a look at Ty Andersons assessment of him is. I think he had 17 goals last year ,not sure.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:46 PM ET
Mostly because that 2nd line is a patchwork of guys who can play like 2nd liners sometimes, and 3rd liners other times
- bezz44

Higgins on a team like Pittsburgh, with actual stars, would be good player for a playoff run. Depth in the post season is important. Hell Justin Williams and Higgy had similar numbers last year and Williams won the Conn Smyth.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:48 PM ET
Higgins on a team like Pittsburgh, with actual stars, would be good player for a playoff run. Depth in the post season is important. Hell Justin Williams and Higgy had similar numbers last year and Williams won the Conn Smyth.
- LeftCoaster


Williams produces in the PO ,Higgins is invisible in PO
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:49 PM ET
Williams produces in the PO ,Higgins is invisible in PO
- VANTEL

True - but he's never played on a team with Cindy Crosby and Geno Malkin
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:51 PM ET
Williams produces in the PO ,Higgins is invisible in PO
- VANTEL

The difference between Higgins and ton of other players in what the do in addition to scoring
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
True - but he's never played on a team with Cindy Crosby and Geno Malkin
- LeftCoaster

Let's not understimate the value of Higgins cap hit. Vonino has amung the best contracts in the league.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
Mike gillis ? Is that you ?
- Redmile247

Yes because it is solid asset management to get rid of a useful player for a used heroine needle. High asking price but that's what I would ask
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
Higgins on a team like Pittsburgh, with actual stars, would be good player for a playoff run. Depth in the post season is important. Hell Justin Williams and Higgy had similar numbers last year and Williams won the Conn Smyth.
- LeftCoaster

This is my thinking as well. Exactly the type of player teams will be looking at
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
The difference between Higgins and ton of other players in what the do in addition to scoring
- Bieksa#3

I don't think he is a bad player, I just don't think we would get a huge return for him. I don't see any team giving up a first rounder or a top prospect for him.

I don't see him going to Boston for Krug.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
You have a very very selective memory??

Panthers have qualified for the post season twice in the past 16 years.

The Islanders haven't won a playoff series in 23 years and only made the playoffs twice in the past ten years. Five times in 20 years.

- LeftCoaster

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
I don't think he is a bad player, I just don't think we would get a huge return for him. I don't see any team giving up a first rounder or a top prospect for him.

I don't see him going to Boston for Krug.

- VANTEL

Meh, Higgins is a better player then Gaustad or Erat. Look at those returns

Higgins alone isn't enough for krug.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
I don't think he is a bad player, I just don't think we would get a huge return for him. I don't see any team giving up a first rounder or a top prospect for him.

I don't see him going to Boston for Krug.

- VANTEL

Sure, he is a depth guy, and is not going to get you top tier assets. I think at the very best he returns a future 1st from a contender, but that doesn't mean you just dump him for a 3rd. Part of maximizing his value is pushing for those little extra pieces that could turn into a Rielly Smith
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
Sure, he is a depth guy, and is not going to get you top tier assets. I think at the very best he returns a future 1st from a contender, but that doesn't mean you just dump him for a 3rd. Part of maximizing his value is pushing for those little extra pieces that could turn into a Rielly Smith
- bezz44

You go girl
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Dec 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Meh, Higgins is a better player then Gaustad or Erat. Look at those returns
- Bieksa#3

And he has consistency in his favour. He plays a workhorse style that teams will like. Swiss army knife
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Yes because it is solid asset management to get rid of a useful player for a used heroine needle. High asking price but that's what I would ask
- bezz44


We have a team of mostly third liners , and all have been asked to play out of position on the second line and first.

Higgins Burrows Kassian Hansen Matthias Jensen Vey all have third line numbers. Pick two or three and move the rest and get proper top 6
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