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tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
Rundblad didnt look terrible, but to look back knowing Bowman gave up a coveted 2nd round pick for him, yikes...
- FourFeathers773


Rundblad and Raanta packaged for a 2nd? Plenty of teams needing goaltending and d. Stan is usually pretty good about replacing picks he traded away.

Rundblad, sadly, looks nothing like the player here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5gGQUcVItc
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

- Ogilthorpe2


I was feeling the same when he was getting time consistently with TVR. He does not respond well to these breaks he is getting from Q and he was not good last night - with or without the puck. If the choice is him or a Hawk prospect....
MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Dec 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

- Ogilthorpe2


Trade Sharp?
Omahawk
Joined: 03.29.2013

Dec 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Q pretty much said after the pregame skate, that Rundblad has been the odd man out because he's right handed and Q would rather he play the right side and not the left side or "off d",

While giving up a 2nd rounder might seem like a miss, you have to give Stan and his scouts for "finding" Scott Darling and TVR.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:54 AM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

- Ogilthorpe2


I don't see it as ragging on him, I just think they are being honest. I know I am.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Dec 17 @ 11:55 AM ET
Q pretty much said after the pregame skate, that Rundblad has been the odd man out because he's right handed and Q would rather he play the right side and not the left side or "off d",

While giving up a 2nd rounder might seem like a miss, you have to give Stan and his scouts for "finding" Scott Darling and TVR.

- Omahawk


Credit where credit is due, absolutely.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

- Ogilthorpe2



Agreed. Let's see the guy play 10-15 consecutive games before judging him.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Dec 17 @ 12:05 PM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

- Ogilthorpe2


Sorry Ogi, I just dont see it with Runblad. Im sure everyone plays a little better with regular ice time, but Runblad still just doesnt look good to me. I see more upside in Dahlbeck, Clendening, TVR.

I said it on the last blog... Multiple times Runblad just absolutely bailed when he saw contact coming. Still looks way to awkward more times than not. The second goal was partly on him. With a 3-1 in the 3rd, why are you taking a puck below the oppositions goal line? A breakaway caused by a d-man not understanding the situation and being out of position.

Hossa was pretty funny on the post game show on the radio. Said with 4 swedes along the blue line he was afraid they were going to play the Swedish national anthem before the game.
ChadBot
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Shire, IL
Joined: 09.18.2014

Dec 17 @ 12:08 PM ET
Agreed. Let's see the guy play 10-15 consecutive games before judging him.
- DarthKane


We will never see him play 10-15 games consecutively, barring any injuries. Once keith is back, he is the odd man out again. The best he will get is rotation duty on the 3rd pair with erixon and rosival.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:15 PM ET
Agreed. Let's see the guy play 10-15 consecutive games before judging him.
- DarthKane


It would be good to see him get a stretch of 5-10 games in a row. I think the game TVR was hurt or 1 of the games just before that may have been his best.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:18 PM ET
We will never see him play 10-15 games consecutively, barring any injuries. Once keith is back, he is the odd man out again. The best he will get is rotation duty on the 3rd pair with erixon and rosival.
- ChadBot


Then we need to lower our expectations a bit. If Rundblad is only a 7th defenseman then people shouldn't expect a lot of consistency.
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:23 PM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

- Ogilthorpe2


I am not one to crap on players on this roster, but I am really starting to lose my patience with Runblad. It is becoming scary every time he is out there, especially when paired with Rozsival.
I'm wondering if anyone would even claim him now if exposed to waivers? Maybe it is time to take a chance and do that and bring up someone more worthy of a chance to play (Brennan?)?
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:24 PM ET
Chris Bloc had a well researched piece in the Committed Indian with a fair amount of supporting facts about Morin and Stan not showing significant results with his drafts yet. Made a strng point Morin had only himself to blame for falling out of favor.

Also made a point that these trades of developed prospects for other organization's rejects could prove risky for the organization down the line. His point was Stan giving Q players he can play over their own prospects hurts their development and Rundblad/Erixon over Klas and Clendening is an example.

Not sure where I stand on it but I would prefer to see Klas getting those Rundblad minutes now that it is apparent what Rundblad's upside is. Though I'd like to see that physical d man in the lineup - until the trade deadline they need to give Klas or Clendening time in the NHL to develop. Both of them are RFA next summer.

- tredbrta


Hey Tred, I concur on Dahlbeck - really have liked his game so far and would also like to see him get more minutes. Was kind of surprised they brought yet another dman in. Not a Runblad fan either and it seems Erixon has already passed him on the depth chart.

tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:32 PM ET
Hey Tred, I concur on Dahlbeck - really have liked his game so far and would also like to see him get more minutes. Was kind of surprised they brought yet another dman in. Not a Runblad fan either and it seems Erixon has already passed him on the depth chart.
- DK002


I have no problem with veteran help somewhere 5-7D but one of those spots should be used - particularly in the first half of the RS - for a player to develop. I think that was Bloc's broader point and Klas is a perfect example. They need to demonstrate to the players in Rockford that working down there pays off. Klas has paid his dues and if he looks like he can play here - give him a shot over other options.

They know what Rosi brings. Sit him every other game and let Klas, Rundblad, Clendening and Erixon show us who belongs.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:35 PM ET
Rundblad didnt look terrible, but to look back knowing Bowman gave up a coveted 2nd round pick for him, yikes...
- FourFeathers773

Last years, who was the pick?
MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Dec 17 @ 12:40 PM ET
Last years, who was the pick?
- vabeachbear


Christian Dvorak: http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=161358

Holy crap...just looked at his home town...I grew up around there and went to High-School at Lincoln-Way...I wonder if this kid is related to the Dvorak I went to school with...lol.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 17 @ 12:45 PM ET
You people are never fricking happy. I see Runblad is the whipping boy dujour.

Some guys need to play to be effective. When he was playing more regularly early in the season, he seemed better with every start. I think he's fine, and will probably get better with more minutes.

- Ogilthorpe2


Its not really that, I mentioned end of last thread, he just looks scared, timid, unsure, whatever you want to call it. My point was that Dahlbeck didn't look that way to me, neither does Erixon.

Its not a bash Rundblad thing for me, just should he be playing in front of Dahlbeck? That's all I'm saying. I just don't see it.

Btw, I don't think anyone would claim him if he got sent down and needed to clear waivers, if what his issue is he has to play. Maybe they know different though, and that's why they're not sending him down.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Dec 17 @ 12:57 PM ET
Chris Bloc had a well researched piece in the Committed Indian with a fair amount of supporting facts about Morin and Stan not showing significant results with his drafts yet. Made a strng point Morin had only himself to blame for falling out of favor.

Also made a point that these trades of developed prospects for other organization's rejects could prove risky for the organization down the line. His point was Stan giving Q players he can play over their own prospects hurts their development and Rundblad/Erixon over Klas and Clendening is an example.

Not sure where I stand on it but I would prefer to see Klas getting those Rundblad minutes now that it is apparent what Rundblad's upside is. Though I'd like to see that physical d man in the lineup - until the trade deadline they need to give Klas or Clendening time in the NHL to develop. Both of them are RFA next summer.

- tredbrta

Interesting take. I take it that Morin wasn't going to crack the lineup and Q lost faith in him. So SB moved the kid for a [potentially usable] piece in Erixon. If Q doesn't like / won't play a certain guy going forward, SB will be notified. The TVR injury just accelerated this move.
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:04 PM ET
I don´t think Rundblad is your third pairing type of defender. His game is better suited for top 4 and pp role but he just isn´t good in enough for that in NHL or at least with contender caliber team. He looks a little slow and in smaller north american rink his desicion making ain´t that good when you don´t have that much time with the puck.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
Its not really that, I mentioned end of last thread, he just looks scared, timid, unsure, whatever you want to call it. My point was that Dahlbeck didn't look that way to me, neither does Erixon.

Its not a bash Rundblad thing for me, just should he be playing in front of Dahlbeck? That's all I'm saying. I just don't see it.

Btw, I don't think anyone would claim him by the way if he got sent down and needed to clear waivers, if what his issue is he has to play. Maybe they know different though, and that's why they're not sending him down.

- vabeachbear


So all of a sudden after 3 games Dahlebck is an NHL regular more deserving than Rundblad and others? I wasn't overly impressed with what I saw out of him. My guess is the Hawks sent him back to Rockford with a list of things to work on, much like they did with Clendening. He will work hard on that and come back a better defenceman.

And Rundblad would not clear waivers - it might be time for you to watch some other games and check out some of the defenceman that play on teams like the Oilers, Stars, Carolina and Sabres.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
I don´t think Rundblad is your third pairing type of defender. His game is better suited for top 4 and pp role but he just isn´t good in enough for that in NHL or at least with contender caliber team. He looks a little slow and in smaller north american rink his desicion making ain´t that good when you don´t have that much time with the puck.
- MjulQvist

It's all about the money - he plays for $570,000 per year. Fits the Hawks budget.
MjulQvist
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.22.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
It's all about the money - he plays for $570,000 per year. Fits the Hawks budget.
- RickJ


For whatever reason 2nd round pick was just too much to give.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
So all of a sudden after 3 games Dahlebck is an NHL regular more deserving than Rundblad and others? I wasn't overly impressed with what I saw out of him. My guess is the Hawks sent him back to Rockford with a list of things to work on, much like they did with Clendening. He will work hard on that and come back a better defenceman.

And Rundblad would not clear waivers - it might be time for you to watch some other games and check out some of the defenceman that play on teams like the Oilers, Stars, Carolina and Sabres.

- RickJ


Agree that he would not clear waivers. The point I was making - that I believed was Block's - was that you take that slot and use it for the guy you drafted and has worked in your system over someone who has had NHL games and failed with other org's. I'm not certain they are there yet with Rundblad until we see him play another consecutive stretch and he gets comfortable. I would prefer to see them sit Rosival at least every 3rd game if not every other and seriously rotate these young guys until one shows they can handle it (or not).... I know you weren't posting to me but wanted to clarify what I posted earlier.


tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
For whatever reason 2nd round pick was just too much to give.
- MjulQvist


At least was a 2014 pick (weak draft). Hawks have 2 2nd rounders in this year's deep draft (one from Hayes departure). Hope they can pick up some more or trade up somehow.
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