Bickell and his money on the 4th line = waste.
- powerenforcer

Bickell anywhere on this Hawk team === waste!!!!!

this a WIN NOW team....hell they caught an amazing gift surprise with the kid dman TVR who earned top 6 playing team as a young prospect...

believe me next year will have plenty opportunity to watch players "develop" once the 3-5 guys are gone next year per 2010 salary dump pourge Ver2
- bogiedoc

I agree with you this is "A Win Now Team". We will be forced to sell three players and probably say good by to a couple others. I think we will have three rookies from Rockford on next years team. McNeil, Danault, TT and three Swedes will be fighting for probably three spots. Our team will be considered young again like in 2010.

Bickell anywhere on this Hawk team === waste!!!!!
- dahawks8819

I strongly agree with you. However , nobody in their right mind will take him for 2 more years at 4 million. Besides, Stan will not trade him because he might wake up just in time at the start of the plaoffs. Gone for sure after this season.

I agree with you this is "A Win Now Team". We will be forced to sell three players and probably say good by to a couple others. I think we will have three rookies from Rockford on next years team. McNeil, Danault, TT and three Swedes will be fighting for probably three spots. Our team will be considered young again like in 2010.
- spanky

although next year will take care of itself...mees thk you are pretty close

on the cap casulty bubble are: #'s 10, 7, 27, 29 while 91 and 32 are gone

so 4-6 new faces next year are assured

Saad is a huge wild card...he on pace for 50-60 pt season...and ahem bickel is on pace for another sterling 20 point season @ 4 mil per. Do the math folks as I am sure Saad's agent is.

Bickel is unaffordable as 4 mil 4th line kinda guy...

although next year will take care of itself...mees thk you are pretty close

on the cap casulty bubble are: #'s 10, 7, 27, 29 while 91 and 32 are gone

so 4-6 new faces next year are assured

Saad is a huge wild card...he on pace for 50-60 pt season...and ahem bickel is on pace for another sterling 20 point season @ 4 mil per. Do the math folks as I am sure Saad's agent is.

Bickel is unaffordable as 4 mil 4th line kinda guy...
- bogiedoc

If 7 is on the bubble with the season he's having, then Stan should just quit and go home.

Seabs stays. Period.

#SeabsforNorris

If 7 is on the bubble with the season he's having, then Stan should just quit and go home.

Seabs stays. Period.

#SeabsforNorris
- Ogilthorpe2

what he said. They will move other pieces before they move Seabrook. Top pairing Dmen are hard to find.

If 7 is on the bubble with the season he's having, then Stan should just quit and go home.

Seabs stays. Period.

#SeabsforNorris
- Ogilthorpe2

I completely agree with you...he is having a great season. But one or 2 of those 5-6 mil a year guys is going.

moving sharp and bickes only gets you to caught up to T and K contracts next year....

if that cap does not go up...my gawd this team T & K plus the Ice hogs

I completely agree with you...he is having a great season. But one or 2 of those 5-6 mil a year guys is going.

moving sharp and bickes only gets you to caught up to T and K contracts next year....

if that cap does not go up...my gawd this team T & K plus the Ice hogs
- bogiedoc

They will move other pieces before they move Seabrook.

If the puck is in the crease before the player, a player has a right to it just as much as the goalie. That would have been a tough sell!, or a homer call!
- powerenforcer

Krueger had no stick so he had no legal way to score so I'm not sure he had a right to divebomb the crease like he did. I wouldn't doubt the league studies that play further. Not that they would take the goal away.

Krueger had no stick so he had no legal way to score so I'm not sure he had a right to divebomb the crease like he did. I wouldn't doubt the league studies that play further. Not that they would take the goal away.
- 6628

Been watching for 50 years. Never have seen that.

Krueger had no stick so he had no legal way to score so I'm not sure he had a right to divebomb the crease like he did. I wouldn't doubt the league studies that play further. Not that they would take the goal away.
- 6628

that is a great point....but who says you can't use your body to move the puck

Been watching for 50 years. Never have seen that.
- Elbows15

I'm right there with ya. Guys diving in to save a goal, ya. But never seen it like it happened tonight.

that is a great point....but who says you can't use your body to move the puck
- bogiedoc

I tend to think they are going to have a problem with him diving skates first into a crowded area. And he had no stick at the time. I don't think that's the end of it. I don't see any penalty coming, but it might result in a new rule eventually.

I tend to think they are going to have a problem with him diving skates first into a crowded area. And he had no stick at the time. I don't think that's the end of it. I don't see any penalty coming, but it might result in a new rule eventually.
- 6628

Meh. No reason to make a rule about something that neither of us have ever seen with over a combined 100 years or more of watching the game.

Another gimmick ending to a sluggish game. PP everything on the perimeter as usual. Really thought the Hawks weren't involved in this one tonight. A December game in Columbus...

Home against the Leafs this evening. Hopefully we see a better showing.

we suck

If 7 is on the bubble with the season he's having, then Stan should just quit and go home.

Seabs stays. Period.

#SeabsforNorris
- Ogilthorpe2

Seabrook = last guy to go, over Stan's dead body

Seabrook = last guy to go, over Stan's dead body
- vabeachbear

Agreed - Sten leaves before Seabs.

we suck
- SimpleJack

You're right! Hawks didn't win in a blow out. Oh the shame of it all.

You're right! Hawks didn't win in a blow out. Oh the shame of it all.
- Beaver-Warrior

Exactly! Thankfully, giving up on hockey now will give us more time to plan the Cubs' World Series victory party.

You're right! Hawks didn't win in a blow out. Oh the shame of it all.
- Beaver-Warrior

The Hawks need to trade for Bobro; maybe offer them Rundblad and the rights to someone. GET IT DONE STAN!!!

Agreed - Sten leaves before Seabs.
- powerenforcer

There was a point in time I thought Seabs may be expendable like Sharp - not anymore. I don't think you can find an available d man any time soon that can replace what he gives this team. They need to keep him any way they can.

However, I can still see Seabs leaving if he and his agent look for a contract significantly higher than $8m. If Johny Boychuck hits the UFA market this OS and gets $8m or more in a flat cap environment then what could Seabrook ask? His agent could easily point out Seabs would be a number 1 defenseman on 3/4 of the league's teams (if not more). Will they be satisfied with the highest paid d man on the Hawks (which he will be) but possibly less than a player like Boychuck? What if he wants Subban money ($9m)? If he does (and they cannot pay him what he wants) then they CANNOT let him go UFA. They have to trade him for a HUGE package including a high first rounder or prospect to partially replace what they are losing.

Hopefully, Seabs goes for term and staying with a contender over the bigger pay day free agency would bring.

You're right! Hawks didn't win in a blow out. Oh the shame of it all.
- Beaver-Warrior

Hey man, its like Savvy said, "6th-8th seed or out", thats what we're lookin like...

I completely agree with you...he is having a great season. But one or 2 of those 5-6 mil a year guys is going.

moving sharp and bickes only gets you to caught up to T and K contracts next year....

if that cap does not go up...my gawd this team T & K plus the Ice hogs
- bogiedoc

That makes little sense - Sharp and Bickell are paid 9.9 million a year combined - the increases for Toews and Kane is 8.4 million - that will be a + 1.5 million - that is addition by subtraction in my book!!!!!

That makes little sense - Sharp and Bickell are paid 9.9 million a year combined - the increases for Toews and Kane is 8.4 million - that will be a + 1.5 million - that is addition by subtraction in my book!!!!!
- dahawks8819

You don't net $9.9MM by dumping Sharp and Bickell - you have to replace them on the roster.

So as Bogie implied: how do you pay for Saad and Kruger if the cap doesn't go up?