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Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
guys... i was not involved in that decision
- DoubleDown

don't deflect
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
Kreider + Hagelin + Skjei + 2016 1st for Taylor Hall
- rangerdanger94



This is a deal I could consider, nice job.....
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
Lucic (half retained salary), Chara, morrow, spooner and 1st

for

Hall, Petry and Oil 1st



Ludicrous, yes. Would it change the dynamic of both teams. Absolutely

- dothedougie



mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild
Location: Frostbite Falls, MN
Joined: 10.23.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:40 AM ET
When did NHL hockey become something that can only be truly understood by looking at spreadsheets?

Anyway the question is moot because we have as exact a comparable as we could possibly get for what Hall would likely yield in a deal, and that is what the Bruins got for Seguin.

- Snowblind


Pretty accurate assessment there. Only thing I could say is Seguin was drafted as a center and projected to be that, and had a stanley cup on his resume when he was traded. Should have yielded a much better return then it did. Florida is intriguing as was mentioned because they have some great pieces. I cant see Florida giving up Bjugstad for Hall though... He's playing lights out and big scoring centers are hard to find.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:41 AM ET
Agreed.. If Hall publicly asks for a trade.. You need to trade him.. I still think Phaneuf, Kadri, Fredrick Gauthier and a 20154 1st rd pick is enough to get him
- PatC80


again... he is Edmonton's best player. if Edmonton was looking at a trade with Toronto, it would be names like Rielly and JVR. not to mention that first rounder is more than 18,000 years into the future.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:41 AM ET
Meh, my idea was more for laughs than anything.

Just trying to make up for the terrible seguin trade.

- dothedougie




Trust me, the Seguin trade made me scratch my head.....
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:41 AM ET
But what I'm saying is a return like that would be unacceptable for Hall. It has to be from the Oilers standpoint! Hornquist hit 30 goals once, Neal hit 40. Neal and Hall both have the same number of points right now but Neal has more goals playing with a worse center. Hall is the better player and the only way you trade him is to get a top enter of dman(which they probably wont get) so it makes a lot more sense to hang on to him.
- mnhockeyguy


But that wasn't what you said at all.. you said that Neal brought back a bad return, which actually isn't true at all... he actually brought back a great return. Comparing Horny putting up 30 in NSH to Neal putting up 40 in PIT is a terrible comparison. Who was his center when he put up 30? Craig Smith? Mike Fisher? Sorry, no disrespect to them, they are good hockey players, but they're no Evgeni Malkin...
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:41 AM ET
again... he is Edmonton's best player. if Edmonton was looking at a trade with Toronto, it would be names like Rielly and JVR. not to mention that first rounder is more than 18,000 years into the future.
- DoubleDown

SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
Based on what??? The vaunted eye test?
- mnhockeyguy



Commmon sense and hockey knowledge, just stop. It's horrible comparison, borderline pathetic.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
sutter, derek poiliot, 1st rounder, Beau Bennett, christian erhoff get it done!
- ChrisMS




No..... try again......
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
With even average goaltending Eakins still has a job and the Oilers are in the lower middle of the pack.

The only way I would trade Hall would be for a young but proven true number 1 goalie.


Guys like:
Carey Price
Tuuka Rask ( although he is having a bad year)
Jonathan Bernier ( not yet proven so need more than him)
Pekka Rinne

Does Edmonton have a strong goalie prospect in the system? If so no deal
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:43 AM ET
Agreed.. If Hall publicly asks for a trade.. You need to trade him.. I still think Phaneuf, Kadri, Fredrick Gauthier and a 20154 1st rd pick is enough to get him
- PatC80


BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:43 AM ET
Good lord, you guys.

I'd say that the offers you people are proposing for Hall are all over the map, but that would imply that some of you can even SEE a map.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
No..... try again......
- Ur Not Me


That's not that bad.....
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
With even average goaltending Eakins still has a job and the Oilers are in the lower middle of the pack.

The only way I would trade Hall would be for a young but proven true number 1 goalie.


Guys like:
Carey Price
Tuuka Rask ( although he is having a bad year)
Jonathan Bernier ( not yet proven so need more than him)
Pekka Rinne

Does Edmonton have a strong goalie prospect in the system?

- Rang


Thinks Nelson Mandela played pro hockey.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
Good lord, you guys.

I'd say that the offers you people are proposing for Hall are all over the map, but that would imply that some of you can even SEE a map.

- BINGO!

The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
Thinks Nelson Mandela played pro hockey.
- Fountain-San


Hall for Carey Price??

There's no way Montreal would ever think about that.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:46 AM ET
2013 Garth Snow would
- DDM-Coga

no he wouldn't
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:46 AM ET
That's not that bad.....
- The-O-G



Yes it is bc Sutter is a 3rd line player or at best a 3C for not 1 top line player, the rest are not proven.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:46 AM ET
Thinks Nelson Mandela played pro hockey.
- Fountain-San


Not saying Bernier is a Rhodes scholar, but if he can stop the puck I don't care.
DirtyDozen
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 11.28.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:46 AM ET
When did NHL hockey become something that can only be truly understood by looking at spreadsheets?

Anyway the question is moot because we have as exact a comparable as we could possibly get for what Hall would likely yield in a deal, and that is what the Bruins got for Seguin.

- Snowblind


Except at the point Seguin was traded he hadn't achieved what Hall has now achieved...he hadn't proven to be a ppg player yet. But yah i would agree thats probably as close as we can get within recent history.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:46 AM ET
Hall for Carey Price??

There's no way Montreal would ever think about that.

- The-O-G

not even a little bit.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
taylor hall

against

lucic
krug


would you do it

- dede36


yes, I would totally do this...you're going to somehow acquire Jonathan Toews and include him in the deal too, right?
(give your head a shake).
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
Not saying Bernier is a Rhodes scholar, but if he can stop the puck I don't care.
- Rang

that sound bite was priceless. you can't buy that kind of dumb.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
Trust me, the Seguin trade made me scratch my head.....
- Ur Not Me



I tried making that trade on NHL 15 be a GM as the stars. Wouldn't let me. The only thing it came back with was "you are not even close to the value of what you are requesting". Good thing games are based on real life.


Seguin liked to drink, well apparently The B's GM likes to drink too.......when he sends trade proposals.
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