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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:29 AM ET
Lucic (half retained salary), Chara, morrow, spooner and 1st

for

Hall, Petry and Oil 1st



Ludicrous, yes. Would it change the dynamic of both teams. Absolutely

- dothedougie


Congrats on the worst idea for an Oilers trade I have heard yet.

Change the dynamic? If you mean renew Boston's older and failing core and doom Edmonton to many more years of futility, then yeah, you are changing the dynamic.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:30 AM ET
if a team on a run of futility like this deems any player "untouchable", god help them...
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
Lucic (half retained salary), Chara, morrow, spooner and 1st

for

Hall, Petry and Oil 1st



Ludicrous, yes. Would it change the dynamic of both teams. Absolutely

- dothedougie




switch Chara w/Seidenberg (bc Chara is old) the Oilers 1st pick to a 2nd rd instead, spooner out & add Griffin n Subban and maybe this starts the talking.....
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
Florida has all the assets to get Hall.
Bjugstad, Kulikov, Gudbranson, Howden, McFarland, Trocheck, they have really promising young pieces (not going to add Ekblad, Barkov, or Huberdeau)

I think there is a deal to be made with them.

- DDM-Coga


man that is a pretty good list of young prospects.

Edmonton would no doubt like Ekblad and I am sure in MacT's mind, that is a reasonable trade.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
Congrats on the worst idea for an Oilers trade I have heard yet.

Change the dynamic? If you mean renew Boston's older and failing core and doom Edmonton to many more years of futility, then yeah, you are changing the dynamic.

- Aetherial


love how the Oil first comes in after Petry... like we won't notice it if it's third on the list.
KarlKarlsson
Ottawa Senators
Location: Squaresville, ON
Joined: 02.12.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:31 AM ET
Florida has all the assets to get Hall.
Bjugstad, Kulikov, Gudbranson, Howden, McFarland, Trocheck, they have really promising young pieces (not going to add Ekblad, Barkov, or Huberdeau)

I think there is a deal to be made with them.

- DDM-Coga


Ha! It's bad that Ek hasn't come close to that sort of well thought out rumour in years - or ever.

dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:32 AM ET
Congrats on the worst idea for an Oilers trade I have heard yet.

Change the dynamic? If you mean renew Boston's older and failing core and doom Edmonton to many more years of futility, then yeah, you are changing the dynamic.

- Aetherial




Poor decision making seems to be the trend in Edm.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
Florida has all the assets to get Hall.
Bjugstad, Kulikov, Gudbranson, Howden, McFarland, Trocheck, they have really promising young pieces (not going to add Ekblad, Barkov, or Huberdeau)

I think there is a deal to be made with them.

- DDM-Coga


OK but you're taking Edmonton's best player, and saying that Florida's best players are off limits. why would Edmonton trade Hall to Florida if not one of those 3 are coming back?
mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild
Location: Frostbite Falls, MN
Joined: 10.23.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
Have to say that I disagree with your analysis of the James Neal trade... before coming to Pitt, Nealer was averaging between 20-25 goals and like 45-50 points per season.. he became an elite sniper playing on Geno's wing... Horny on the other hand before coming to the Pens was good for... around 25 goals and 45-50 points as well... to say the Penguins got bad return is pretty inaccurate to me. They got a player that could equal the production of James Neal, won't take as many boneheaded plays, and judging form his style of play, won't disappear in the playoffs (although that has yet to be determined.) And they also acquired a responsible adequate bottom 6 player that helps their depth, which is what hurt them oh so bad in the playoffs last year. Taylor Pyatt, Tanner Glass, Craig Adams, Joe Vitale, Derrek Engelland... I would say Spaling is an upgrade over all of those players (even tho they kind of overpaid him during is RFA status by a mil or so..) sooo... to say that it was a bad return.. I disagree.
- j.boyd919


But what I'm saying is a return like that would be unacceptable for Hall. It has to be from the Oilers standpoint! Hornquist hit 30 goals once, Neal hit 40. Neal and Hall both have the same number of points right now but Neal has more goals playing with a worse center. Hall is the better player and the only way you trade him is to get a top enter of dman(which they probably wont get) so it makes a lot more sense to hang on to him.
KarlKarlsson
Ottawa Senators
Location: Squaresville, ON
Joined: 02.12.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:33 AM ET
if a team on a run of futility like this deems any player "untouchable", god help them...
- DoubleDown


Good advice coming from the team that traded Roy in his prime
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:34 AM ET
When did NHL hockey become something that can only be truly understood by looking at spreadsheets?

Anyway the question is moot because we have as exact a comparable as we could possibly get for what Hall would likely yield in a deal, and that is what the Bruins got for Seguin.

- Snowblind


This is true of all sports.
Snowblind
New York Islanders
Joined: 03.08.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
I would trade Schultz for a bag of pucks
- Oilfan19


My point exactly. 15 months ago he was practically the next Paul Coffey. If you are determined to run him out of town, sell high or at least higher than rock bottom.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
switch Chara w/Seidenberg (bc Chara is old) the Oilers 1st pick to a 2nd rd instead, spooner out & add Griffin n Subban and maybe this starts the talking.....
- Ur Not Me



Meh, my idea was more for laughs than anything.

Just trying to make up for the terrible seguin trade.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Dec 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
Kreider + Hagelin + Skjei + 2016 1st for Taylor Hall
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
Good advice coming from the team that traded Roy in his prime
- KarlKarlsson



When a player demands a trade, especially publicly, you trade him. Doesn't matter who he is.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:37 AM ET
Good advice coming from the team that traded Roy in his prime
- KarlKarlsson


Kinda had their hand forced though
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Dec 16 @ 11:37 AM ET
sutter, derek poiliot, 1st rounder, Beau Bennett, christian erhoff get it done!
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:37 AM ET
OK but you're taking Edmonton's best player, and saying that Florida's best players are off limits. why would Edmonton trade Hall to Florida if not one of those 3 are coming back?
- DoubleDown


The point was that even if you dont add their 3 lottery pick players, they still have a lot of pieces that could get to the value of Hall. They have the luxery of moving some of those other prospects.

If youre Edmonton you start asking about the Bigger 3 but its not like there great value elsewhere in that organization
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:38 AM ET
sutter, derek poiliot, 1st rounder, Beau Bennett, christian erhoff get it done!
- ChrisMS


Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:38 AM ET
Good advice coming from the team that traded Roy in his prime
- KarlKarlsson

you think they had a choice in that? roy is on tape telling the habs president he'll never play for them again.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:38 AM ET
Kinda had their hand forced though
- Aetherial

exactly
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:38 AM ET
The point was that even if you dont add their 3 lottery pick players, they still have a lot of pieces that could get to the value of Hall. They have the luxery of moving some of those other prospects.

If youre Edmonton you start asking about the Bigger 3 but its not like there great value elsewhere in that organization

- DDM-Coga

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:38 AM ET
Good advice coming from the team that traded Roy in his prime
- KarlKarlsson


can't even begin to figure out what this means
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
When a player demands a trade, especially publicly, you trade him. Doesn't matter who he is.
- BINGO!


Agreed.. If Hall publicly asks for a trade.. You need to trade him.. I still think Phaneuf, Kadri, Fredrick Gauthier and a 20154 1st rd pick is enough to get him
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
Kinda had their hand forced though
- Aetherial


guys... i was not involved in that decision
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