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Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Dec 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
Reinhart Dal Colle and Grabner for Hall
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
I don't care whether or not Hall is a good trade target for Tampa. You are delusional because you (frank)ers believe Killorn plays on the 4th line.
- Feds91Stammer

I never said he was a 4th liner. Me and SpoiledByOil both pointed this out to you. I can repeat another two or three times if it will help. I did however say that calling him a top 6 forward is premature, because it is.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
wow you're just too stupid to even talk to, it's amazing how you can just make up whatever bullpoop this is supposed to be, out of what I said.

I thought it was pretty straight forward.....

No genius, he was playing on the 4th line, when get this, he was on the 4th line.

Yes he has moved up, yes he played a couple of games on the 1st last year as well, and get this, yes he has also played on the 4th line

holy (frank)

- SpoiledByOil


Killorn has been a top 6 winger for the past 2 seasons in Tampa... not really sure what you're smoking. He really hasn't been on the 4th line since his rookie year, and even then I don't even think he was on there very long. Most of the year last year he was with Stammer and Marty...
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 16 @ 4:31 PM ET
I never said he was a 4th liner. Me and SpoiledByOil both pointed this out to you. I can repeat another two or three times if it will help. I did however say that calling him a top 6 forward is premature, because it is.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


How is that premature? He put up 41 points in a top 6 role last year... and has 14 points in 24 games... playing in a top 6 role...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:32 PM ET
I never said he was a 4th liner. Me and SpoiledByOil both pointed this out to you. I can repeat another two or three times if it will help. I did however say that calling him a top 6 forward is premature, because it is.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

What do you call a player that is on the top 2 forward lines of the top scoring team in the NHL?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 4:33 PM ET
How is that premature? He put up 41 points in a top 6 role last year... and has 14 points in 24 games... playing in a top 6 role...
- j.boyd919

First year ever doing that. I say that from a position of unique perspective: an Oilers fan. I am very well acquainted with players having overly high expectations placed on them based on one or even two good seasons.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 4:34 PM ET
What do you call a player that is on the top 2 forward lines of the top scoring team in the NHL?
- Feds91Stammer

Fortunate to be surrounded by a lot of great talent?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:34 PM ET
Reinhart Dal Colle and Grabner for Hall
- Dan Petriw

Ummm....you're lucky bloggers can't be banned...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:35 PM ET
Fortunate to be surrounded by a lot of great talent?
- TheTaoOfSemenko



You delusional (frank)
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Dec 16 @ 4:35 PM ET
Ummm....you're lucky bloggers can't be banned...
- Iggysbff



what not even close??
petry_02
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2014

Dec 16 @ 4:36 PM ET
IF we trade hall (doubt it, dreger is a moron) it will be for a defense man. we don't need a bunch of 2nd and 3rd liners.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 4:37 PM ET


You delusional (frank)

- Feds91Stammer

You're right. I'm sure the other players around him make no difference. I notice you still don't have anything to actually repudiate asides from insults and laughie faces.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:38 PM ET
what not even close??
- Dan Petriw

Anyone can be had for the right price. But we are looking to get better now. So no, "potential" doesn't cut it.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:38 PM ET
Very little on the 4th line throughout his ENTIRE career. Having been a season ticket holder since long before his career started I can say that with a high degree of certainty
- uf1910




I never said he was there prominently, but he was there for a short stint
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
I never said he was a 4th liner. Me and SpoiledByOil both pointed this out to you. I can repeat another two or three times if it will help. I did however say that calling him a top 6 forward is premature, because it is.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Top 6 or top 9, quite frankly there is very little difference in the grand scheme of things. That being said, Killorn has spent more NHL time in the top 6 than anywhere else. Is he a true top line player? No. But he is way better than a 4th liner as well. He's a top 9 that can move up to top 6 and his career backs that up
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
Killorn has been a top 6 winger for the past 2 seasons in Tampa... not really sure what you're smoking. He really hasn't been on the 4th line since his rookie year, and even then I don't even think he was on there very long. Most of the year last year he was with Stammer and Marty...
- j.boyd919



where exactly did i say he was on the 4th line for a long period of time?
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Dec 16 @ 4:40 PM ET
Anyone can be had for the right price. But we are looking to get better now. So no, "potential" doesn't cut it.
- Iggysbff



moving on then...
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 4:43 PM ET
Top 6 or top 9, quite frankly there is very little difference in the grand scheme of things. That being said, Killorn has spent more NHL time in the top 6 than anywhere else. Is he a true top line player? No. But he is way better than a 4th liner as well. He's a top 9 that can move up to top 6 and his career backs that up
- uf1910

I like you. You're a lot more reasonable than the other guy.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 4:43 PM ET
I never said he was there prominently, but he was there for a short stint
- SpoiledByOil


Probably when he was returning from injury. He has spent the VAST majority of his career in the top 6. Properly slotted he is an above-average 3rd liner who will pot an average of 15 goals. May catch a few breaks and get a few 20 goal seasons but overall will be slightly below. His main value comes off the scoresheet. He is a puck digger in the corners and defensively solid player. He spent his time with Marty and Stammer simply for puck retrieval b/c of the makeup of the line. Sniper in Stamkos, passer in Marty, and digger in Killer. This exact reason is why Purcell on the line with Stammer and Marty never worked.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 4:45 PM ET
where exactly did i say he was on the 4th line for a long period of time?
- SpoiledByOil


I honestly have no idea. I just saw post after post referring to Killorn and 4th line and given the fact he has spent such a small amount of time anywhere near the 4th line I had to chime in.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 16 @ 4:45 PM ET
Probably when he was returning from injury. He has spent the VAST majority of his career in the top 6. Properly slotted he is an above-average 3rd liner who will pot an average of 15 goals. May catch a few breaks and get a few 20 goal seasons but overall will be slightly below. His main value comes off the scoresheet. He is a puck digger in the corners and defensively solid player. He spent his time with Marty and Stammer simply for puck retrieval b/c of the makeup of the line. Sniper in Stamkos, passer in Marty, and digger in Killer. This exact reason is why Purcell on the line with Stammer and Marty never worked.
- uf1910

I like Purcell too but his seeming shyness to use his size for anything makes me sad. He's like Penner.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:45 PM ET
Probably when he was returning from injury. He has spent the VAST majority of his career in the top 6. Properly slotted he is an above-average 3rd liner who will pot an average of 15 goals. May catch a few breaks and get a few 20 goal seasons but overall will be slightly below. His main value comes off the scoresheet. He is a puck digger in the corners and defensively solid player. He spent his time with Marty and Stammer simply for puck retrieval b/c of the makeup of the line. Sniper in Stamkos, passer in Marty, and digger in Killer. This exact reason is why Purcell on the line with Stammer and Marty never worked.
- uf1910



Yes it was when he came back from injury, and it was only for a few games. I absolutley agree with your assement of Killorn
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 4:47 PM ET
3rd line player, potential, prospect, prospect. Please tell me how much this improves the Oilers right now, and why TB would laugh and hang up the phone?'

Killorn was only recently moved from the 4th because of injuries, Conolly is a 3rd line player.
are you (frank)ing kidding me?

- SpoiledByOil



RIGHT THERE, OKAY? THERE IS WHERE YOU SAID HE WAS ON THE 4TH LINE. ARE WE DONE NOW?
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:47 PM ET
I honestly have no idea. I just saw post after post referring to Killorn and 4th line and given the fact he has spent such a small amount of time anywhere near the 4th line I had to chime in.
- uf1910



You're right it was a small amount of time, and i said it was a small amount of time. Then somehow that turned into me apparently saying that he is only a 4th line player.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
RIGHT THERE, OKAY? THERE IS WHERE YOU SAID HE WAS ON THE 4TH LINE. ARE WE DONE NOW?
- BINGO!



yea, and he was on the 4th line, doesn't mean i said he is only a 4th line player.
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