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Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
yes, I would totally do this...you're going to somehow acquire Jonathan Toews and include him in the deal too, right?
(give your head a shake).

- JLO961

well if we're getting Toews as well we'll need to throw in a 3rd round pick.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
Hall for Carey Price??

There's no way Montreal would ever think about that.

- The-O-G


Probably not, depends how good they think Tokarski is
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
well if we're getting Toews as well we'll need to throw in a 3rd round pick.
- Fountain-San

The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
Yes it is bc Sutter is a 3rd line player or at best a 3C for not 1 top line player, the rest are not proven.
- Ur Not Me


Yeah Sutter isn't that great and would need to be upgraded. But Pouliot is off the charts
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
again... he is Edmonton's best player. if Edmonton was looking at a trade with Toronto, it would be names like Rielly and JVR. not to mention that first rounder is more than 18,000 years into the future.
- DoubleDown


Meant 2015
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
Probably not, depends how good they think Tokarski is
- Rang


No man, no.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
That's not that bad.....
- The-O-G


That's a goddamn catastrophe if you're Pittsburgh,
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
Id look at the James Neal trade for a comparison as to what the Oilers could expect to get for Hall(which isn't good enough to make it worth their while) Regardless of what people think about his on ice antics, James Neal is an elite goal scorer. He fetched a good winger and a middling to below average winger. A bad, bad return for a guy that is a sniper like Hall through and through. I think one issue is that wingers are the least difficult position to replace in the NHL. Elite Centers and top dmen are players rarely any team trades. An elite center can make even an average winger very good. Hall in all likelihood will not pull in an established top pairing dman. He probably wont pull in a very good second line center either, at least from a team that has a shot of winning the cup. In which case it's better for the Oilers to just hang on to him. He's still very young and they have decent prospects that could start a turn around in a couple of years.
- mnhockeyguy


Think about what you're saying for just a moment...Taylor Hall = James Neal. Now, imagine if the Pens made that deal. When will people stop these lopsided, idiotic trade proposals on this website?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
again... he is Edmonton's best player. if Edmonton was looking at a trade with Toronto, it would be names like Rielly and JVR. not to mention that first rounder is more than 18,000 years into the future.
- DoubleDown

Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
I tried making that trade on NHL 15 be a GM as the stars. Wouldn't let me. The only thing it came back with was "you are not even close to the value of what you are requesting". Good thing games are based on real life.


Seguin liked to drink, well apparently The B's GM likes to drink too.......when he sends trade proposals.

- dothedougie



The kid was young w/stud potential (as we are seeing now) really thought BOS should have traded Krejci instead to make room.... Terrible move
Youth will always prevail if proven.....
mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild
Location: Frostbite Falls, MN
Joined: 10.23.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
But that wasn't what you said at all.. you said that Neal brought back a bad return, which actually isn't true at all... he actually brought back a great return. Comparing Horny putting up 30 in NSH to Neal putting up 40 in PIT is a terrible comparison. Who was his center when he put up 30? Craig Smith? Mike Fisher? Sorry, no disrespect to them, they are good hockey players, but they're no Evgeni Malkin...
- j.boyd919[/quot

Hornquist hit 30 once, and he's not going to hit that mark this year with Crosby or malkin. I like Hornquist but he's not the same caliber as Neal. As I said, I think Neal is an elite scorer. Hornquist is decently good but it wasn't even. Spal is decent but the two for Neal was undervalue. My opinion only. But as I have been saying all along, the Oilers would need a massive Haul in return for trading their best player. I just dont see them getting enough to make it worth their while.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:51 AM ET
well if we're getting Toews as well we'll need to throw in a 3rd round pick.
- Fountain-San


and then I'd still say no based on your initial offer..."nah, you annoyed me with the first one"...click
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:51 AM ET
The kid was young w/stud potential (as we are seeing now) really thought BOS should have traded Krejci instead to make room.... Terrible move
Youth will always prevail if proven.....

- Ur Not Me



But we got Loui!!!!! ....................
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:52 AM ET
Yeah Sutter isn't that great and would need to be upgraded. But Pouliot is off the charts
- The-O-G


Unless he's Weber or Doughty, he's unproven on the NHL level....
mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild
Location: Frostbite Falls, MN
Joined: 10.23.2014

Dec 16 @ 11:52 AM ET
Think about what you're saying for just a moment...Taylor Hall = James Neal. Now, imagine if the Pens made that deal. When will people stop these lopsided, idiotic trade proposals on this website?
- JLO961



Why dont you read the actual comment then get back to me... There was no trade proposal mentioned in there.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
But we got Loui!!!!! ....................
- dothedougie


some really, really stupid trades have been coming out of the NE in the last 4-5 years.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:54 AM ET
The kid was young w/stud potential (as we are seeing now) really thought BOS should have traded Krejci instead to make room.... Terrible move
Youth will always prevail if proven.....

- Ur Not Me

no way. he got it done in the playoffs. that's what counts. not saying the seguin deal got us great return but given the way he acted, expecially during the playoffs, he booked his own ticket out of town. justin beiber on skates.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
When did NHL hockey become something that can only be truly understood by looking at spreadsheets?

Anyway the question is moot because we have as exact a comparable as we could possibly get for what Hall would likely yield in a deal, and that is what the Bruins got for Seguin.

- Snowblind


Even that deal isn't a great comparable because they were trading Seguin more on potential, Seguin today would fetch more than what the Seguin Boston traded.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
Even that deal isn't a great comparable because they were trading Seguin more on potential, Seguin today would fetch more than what the Seguin Boston traded.
- SpoiledByOil

yup.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
some really, really stupid trades have been coming out of the NE in the last 4-5 years.
- DoubleDown



Mixed emotions on this post. I totally agree, but it makes me sad.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
Hall for Carey Price??

There's no way Montreal would ever think about that.

- The-O-G


Montreal would definitely think about it.

It would provide endless hours of uproarious laughter.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
Montreal would definitely think about it.

It would provide endless hours of uproarious laughter.

- Aetherial

The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
Unless he's Weber or Doughty, he's unproven on the NHL level....
- Ur Not Me


Ya man....I get it. But they aren't going to get Weber or Doughty for Hall. It's also why Pouliot isn't the only guy in the offer. Quit stating the obvious.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Dec 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
Even that deal isn't a great comparable because they were trading Seguin more on potential, Seguin today would fetch more than what the Seguin Boston traded.
- SpoiledByOil



Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:58 AM ET
I tried making that trade on NHL 15 be a GM as the stars. Wouldn't let me. The only thing it came back with was "you are not even close to the value of what you are requesting". Good thing games are based on real life.


Seguin liked to drink, well apparently The B's GM likes to drink too.......when he sends trade proposals.

- dothedougie


yeah but everyone here commenting on that trade is enjoying 20/20 hindsight. At the time, that return was actually not bad. Eriksson was a very underrated winger and Seguin had not yet reached his stride at all and was thought to have a pretty serious attitude problem.

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