Hall is definitely top 5 and very possibly the best LW in the game. I remember you said you dont think Hedman is an elite defenseman either? You gotta brush up on hockey outside the Isles my man
- rangerdanger94

Um, never said Hedman wasn't elite, the convo was about being paid like Subban..... U need to read a post better before u comment ....


Edit: Trust me, I know more than u.....

I will get eaten alive for this but I would consider paying something resembling that price for Hall.

Let me strongly reiterate two words in that sentence CONSIDER and RESEMBLING.

He's arguably the best LW in hockey. I think you have to at least think about a package involving some of those guys that Gentile mentioned in that article. I do not think the haul will end up being as much as he suggested, but it will no doubt be high.
- eichiefs9

Hes the best LW in the NHL whos last name starts with the letter H. But best in general... not yet, maybe not ever.

XxNYIxX

Um, never said Hedman wasn't elite, the convo was about being paid like Subban..... U need to read a post better before u comment ....


Edit: Trust me, I know more than u.....
- Ur Not Me

I think you said that he doesnt belong in the same conversation as weber, subban, etc. but I'll let it slide this time bud.

Hes the best LW in the NHL whos last name starts with the letter H. But best in general... not yet, maybe not ever.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Benn, Parise, Nash, and Sedin all could be considered better than him but I'm not sure anyone else is. And Hall is 23...Benn is only 25 but the other 3 are much older.

Hall is definitely top 5 and very possibly the best LW in the game. I remember you said you dont think Hedman is an elite defenseman either? You gotta brush up on hockey outside the Isles my man
- rangerdanger94

No the conversation was me asking the lightning fans if they had that pick over again would they choose Duchane over Hedman. I got slaughtered for even implying they didn't get the better player.. i wasn't being a troll I wasn't being a wiener but there were quite a few on there that responded to me as if I kicked their mother and sister in the VjayJay... so after that I just started pushing buttons.

Don't ever let me push buttons!

XxNYIxX

Benn, Parise, Nash, and Sedin all could be considered better than him but I'm not sure anyone else is. And Hall is 23...Benn is only 25 but the other 3 are much older.
- rangerdanger94

So he's not THE best LW, right?

XxNYIxX

I think you said that he doesnt belong in the same conversation as weber, subban, etc. but I'll let it slide this time bud.
- rangerdanger94

No, someone responded back to me about TB player raises. I said unless he continues to produce like Weber & Subban. Then the whole convo went in diff directions bc ppl twist a post and come up w/other things. Subban is almost making $10m per, I cant see Hedman make that unless he puts up Weber & Subban offensive type numbers, that's all that it was. Can he, yes, is it possible, yes but don't have a crystal ball to predict it bc a lot can happen from now until his contract ends.

No the conversation was me asking the lightning fans if they had that pick over again would they choose Duchane over Hedman. I got slaughtered for even implying they didn't get the better player.. i wasn't being a troll I wasn't being a wiener but there were quite a few on there that responded to me as if I kicked their mother and sister in the VjayJay... so after that I just started pushing buttons.

Don't ever let me push buttons!

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

bro man, I had this debate yesterday, wasn't u.....

About TB raises on there kids when contracts expire.....

bro man, I had this debate yesterday, wasn't u.....

About TB raises on there kids when contracts expire.....
- Ur Not Me

Didnt want anyone else getting accused of my lunacy!!

XxNYIxX

Benn, Parise, Nash, and Sedin all could be considered better than him but I'm not sure anyone else is. And Hall is 23...Benn is only 25 but the other 3 are much older.
- rangerdanger94

Dude your knowledge is lacking bc Patches is in top 3-5 discussion easily..... And can be debated on top LW but still give it to Ovi who u also missed....

No, someone responded back to me about TB player raises. I said unless he continues to produce like Weber & Subban. Then the whole convo went in diff directions bc ppl twist a post and come up w/other things. Subban is almost making $10m per, I cant see Hedman make that unless he puts up Weber & Subban offensive type numbers, that's all that it was. Can he, yes, is it possible, yes but don't have a crystal ball to predict it bc a lot can happen from now until his contract ends.
- Ur Not Me

Agree.

XxNYIxX

So he's not THE best LW, right?

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Some people feel he is, others don't. There's definitely an argument that he could be.

Didnt want anyone else getting accused of my lunacy!!

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Its comical, but those fans are ridiculous & a stupid convo on Hedman that most got there panties in a bunch......

Dude your knowledge is lacking bc Patches is in top 3-5 discussion easily..... And can be debated on top LW but still give it to Ovi who u also missed....
- Ur Not Me

Patches is great but not better than those guys. Ovi has played the majority of his NHL career as a RW. So has Nash though so I see your point that Ovi shouldn't be excluded especially since hes been playing LW a bit more this year.

Just asking, u really think Hall is the best LW in todays game??? Sorry bro, I don't...
Plus I wouldn't give up more than 1 top prospect for him and another 1 or 2 roster players not name (Strome/Nelson) Lee I would part with but that's all out of the kids. Grabs/Bailey/Clutterbuck all can be had too..... Call me crazy but on a lesser extent, rather have Perron - very underrated player (when healthy)
- Ur Not Me

One: I said arguably...as in you can make a case for him being the best LW in hockey, not that he is hands down the best.

Two: Who would you consider better? Ovechkin has played a ton of RW this year so you can count him out.

danger pointed a few out that maybe some would some would put before them, which is a matter of opinion and fair. But Hall is the youngest, fastest and scored at nearly a PPG pace last season.

Patches is great but not better than those guys. Ovi has played the majority of his NHL career as a RW. So has Nash though so I see your point that Ovi shouldn't be excluded especially since hes been playing LW a bit more this year.
- rangerdanger94

wow about Patches, kid is unreal and has gotten much better every year. He just doesn't get the exposer bc he's not flashy, just a dominant LW
I think its bias bc he's American born playing in MTL, so most of the talk is Subban & Price who are both canadien

Hate to say it but I think he's the best MTL F on roster...... And top 3-5 LW in the game today

One: I said arguably...as in you can make a case for him being the best LW in hockey, not that he is hands down the best.

Two: Who would you consider better? Ovechkin has played a ton of RW this year so you can count him out.

danger pointed a few out that maybe some would some would put before them, which is a matter of opinion and fair. But Hall is the youngest, fastest and scored at nearly a PPG pace last season.
- eichiefs9

On Ovi, didn't the coach move him back to LW? either way this year or not he's played majority of his career as a LW. But u are right about being based on opinion. No dislike to Hall but think some are better.

1. Ovi
2. Parise
3. Benn/Patches either or
5. Hall

off top of head, not sure if I'm missing other names???

Patches is great but not better than those guys. Ovi has played the majority of his NHL career as a RW. So has Nash though so I see your point that Ovi shouldn't be excluded especially since hes been playing LW a bit more this year.
- rangerdanger94

Not quite sure but I thought Ovi has mostly played LW in his career, I do know last year he played RW mostly but felt more comfortable as a LW, which I believe he's back to playing again???

On Ovi, didn't the coach move him back to LW? either way this year or not he's played majority of his career as a LW. But u are right about being based on opinion. No dislike to Hall but think some are better.

1. Ovi
2. Parise
3. Benn/Patches either or
5. Hall

off top of head, not sure if I'm missing other names???
- Ur Not Me

wow about Patches, kid is unreal and has gotten much better every year. He just doesn't get the exposer bc he's not flashy, just a dominant LW
I think its bias bc he's American born playing in MTL, so most of the talk is Subban & Price who are both canadien

Hate to say it but I think he's the best MTL F on roster...... And top 3-5 LW in the game today
- Ur Not Me

Patches is top 10 and without a doubt their best player. But Benn and Hall are better.

On Ovi, didn't the coach move him back to LW? either way this year or not he's played majority of his career as a LW. But u are right about being based on opinion. No dislike to Hall but think some are better.

1. Ovi
2. Parise
3. Benn/Patches either or
5. Hall

off top of head, not sure if I'm missing other names???
- Ur Not Me

If we are going to consider Ovechkin a LW then yes, he is the best in hockey.

I would not personally put Parise or Patches in front of Hall though. Benn is a tough call because he brings a lot of other things to the table along with offense.

Outside of Ovechkin (if we are including him) I would label Hall as probably the best, with Benn being barely a hair behind him.

You wouldn't trade strome straight up for hall? I dont know man...I'd put hall just shy of JT on my list of best young players in the league.
- rangerdanger94

You know, being a fan of your team, how important it is to play defense. Strome gets it, at 20 years of age, or whatever he is, and you can't put a price on that. I'd rather have a lot of good offensive players than great ones who can't or won't play defense. Offense for guys like Strome and Hall is about talent....defense is about work ethic, and Edmonton doesn't seem to have that- they don't need to trade Hall, what they need is someone who makes them afraid to come back to the bench after defensive errors of omission, for fear they might not leave the pine for the rest of the game. A couple of years of your old coach would probably cure what ails them more than a trade.

If we are going to consider Ovechkin a LW then yes, he is the best in hockey.

I would not personally put Parise or Patches in front of Hall though. Benn is a tough call because he brings a lot of other things to the table along with offense.

Outside of Ovechkin (if we are including him) I would label Hall as probably the best, with Benn being barely a hair behind him.
- eichiefs9

Don't forget rick nash

You know, being a fan of your team, how important it is to play defense. Strome gets it, at 20 years of age, or whatever he is, and you can't put a price on that. I'd rather have a lot of good offensive players than great ones who can't or won't play defense. Offense for guys like Strome and Hall is about talent....defense is about work ethic, and Edmonton doesn't seem to have that- they don't need to trade Hall, what they need is someone who makes them afraid to come back to the bench after defensive errors of omission, for fear they might not leave the pine for the rest of the game. A couple of years of your old coach would probably cure what ails them more than a trade.
- dcb1

Yea I understand. I wouldnt trade stepan for a pure offensive center because of the value his defensive play brings.

Don't forget rick nash
- rangerdanger94

Mr. Softie only comes out in the summer .....

100% agree. Funny how the price is him and two of our best defensive prospects. . At this point I wouldn't do strome straight up for him.
- Cptmjl

That's the price in some Edmonton fan's head. I'd have to polite....well, no...if their GM asked for all that for one player, I'd probably laugh at him, let's face it. I wouldn't trade Strome, Reinhart AND Pulock for Crosby, never mind Taylor Hall.