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SABRES 89
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Dec 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
So if this sorry cluster of players, that we thought would be more entertaining but still get us to 30th, is actually good enough to hang with a bunch of teams...does that mean with all the prospects we have that we should be good enough in 2 years to be battling for playoff series wins?

If so, does that mean that we should therefore look to trading some of these picks for NHL ready players...young future top 6 prospects?

- IonSabres

didn't Murray mention that already? he would move some assets for young NHL ready players if he had to
Sabresfan-365
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Dec 15 @ 9:00 PM ET
I'd move Myers for Hall, just my opinion. People will move Myers for Mantha from the Wings but not for Hall?
- SABRES 89



Do you mean Myers? If so, Im guessing that its because Hall carries more value than myers.
SABRES 89
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Dec 15 @ 9:01 PM ET
Do you mean Myers? If so, Im guessing that its because Hall carries more value than myers.
- Sabresfan-365

There are folks on here that won't move Myers for Hall but would move Myers if we got Mantha from the Wings. I don't get that.
buffvegas12
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Dec 15 @ 9:02 PM ET
Idk about anyone else but im curious to see if they're going to bring up someone. I want to see Grigorenko up after the training camp he had this summer, even if it's for like 2 games.
cabin
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Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
Me thinks the HBSL took a dump..



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SABRES 89
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Dec 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
Bottom line is, you gotta give to get. If you want Hall you gotta give to get him, if another GM wants Myers, you gotta give to get. IMO.
buffvegas12
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Dec 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
Idk about anyone else but im curious to see if they're going to bring up someone. I want to see Grigorenko up after the training camp he had this summer, even if it's for like 2 games.
- buffvegas12

After the Mitchell injury I should say.
IonSabres
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Dec 15 @ 9:03 PM ET
Could be . The prospects we have are still a year or 2 away. Who knows what will happen.
- cabin


So maybe the Sabres #1 pick is at its highest value now, assuming The Sabres continue winning more than losing. Therefore, get maximum value now by trading it and something else or two for a top 3 player, young enough to be here for 5-7 years..not sure who that is , you guys know the league better than I do...but something like a Hall.
buffalofan19
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Dec 15 @ 9:04 PM ET
There are folks on here that won't move Myers for Hall but would move Myers if we got Mantha from the Wings. I don't get that.
- SABRES 89



Yeah, that's nuts. Hall is a player worth building a franchise around.
Sabresfan-365
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Dec 15 @ 9:04 PM ET
After the Mitchell injury I should say.
- buffvegas12



Yahtzee!

Kevin Oklobzija @kevinoDandC · 1m 1 minute ago
With Torrey Mitchell injured (lower body), #Amerks center Mikhail Grigorenko is on his way to #Sabrres. They play at Winnipeg Tuesday.
Der Kaiser
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Dec 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
There are folks on here that won't move Myers for Hall but would move Myers if we got Mantha from the Wings. I don't get that.
- SABRES 89


Right now I have Myers as untouchable
SABRES 89
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Dec 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
So maybe the Sabres #1 pick is at its highest value now, assuming The Sabres continue winning more than losing. Therefore, get maximum value now by trading it and something else or two for a top 3 player, young enough to be here for 5-7 years..not sure who that is , you guys know the league better than I do...but something like a Hall.
- IonSabres

If we don't have a chance at a top 5 pick IMO, you make a deal for Hall if he's put on the block for some crazy reason.
Der Kaiser
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Dec 15 @ 9:05 PM ET
Yeah, that's nuts. Hall is a player worth building a franchise around.
- buffalofan19


Edmonton proves it won't work.
Buffalo-Sabres
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Dec 15 @ 9:06 PM ET
Yahtzee!

Kevin Oklobzija @kevinoDandC · 1m 1 minute ago
With Torrey Mitchell injured (lower body), #Amerks center Mikhail Grigorenko is on his way to #Sabrres. They play at Winnipeg Tuesday.

- Sabresfan-365



Yesssss
SABRES 89
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Dec 15 @ 9:06 PM ET
Right now I have Myers as untouchable
- Der Kaiser

And that is your opinion and that's ok, I disagree but I see your point.
GilPerreault11
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Dec 15 @ 9:06 PM ET
Jim Matheson: Could Oilers GM consider trading Taylor Hall for help?

Oilers needs are massive and many, but team’s top player should fetch great return

If the Oilers were ever to consider moving Hall, it would be for one of two things: 1. he wants out because he’s tired of losing after his Memorial Cup highs with the junior Windsor Spitfires, or 2. they can dangle him for a high-end defenceman because, frankly, they are a long way from having a dominant blueliner such as Shea Weber, Drew Doughty, Duncan Keith or Mark Giordano — all Western Conference behemoths who can provide offence plus go against the other team’s top players.

But again, trading Hall would be trading the most popular player with Oilers fans. You see more Taylor Hall jerseys in the seats than any other current player.

When those little kids taking part in the mini-hockey games between periods are asked who their favourite Oilers player is, they all say Taylor Hall.

True, he makes mistakes defensively, often because he tries too hard. He’s not a perfect 200-foot player by any means. But on a team with little fire, his furnace pilot light is seldom out................

http://www.edmontonjourna...+Hall/10522126/story.html
zdp1189
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Dec 15 @ 9:06 PM ET
Yeah, that's nuts. Hall is a player worth building a franchise around.
- buffalofan19

80 points in 75 games last year. We dont have any offensive talent like that.... Possibly not even in our pipeline.
Buffalo-Sabres
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Dec 15 @ 9:07 PM ET
Right now I have Myers as untouchable
- Der Kaiser



I'm with you. It's silly to discredit his contribution to the team.
SABRES 89
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Dec 15 @ 9:07 PM ET
Edmonton proves it won't work.
- Der Kaiser

It's not working here with Myers either.
Buffalo-Sabres
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Dec 15 @ 9:08 PM ET
Well poop
buffalofan19
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Dec 15 @ 9:08 PM ET
Edmonton proves it won't work.
- Der Kaiser



You still need a player to build a franchise around. You also need to build around him correctly. That's where Edmonton has failed miserably.
Herzeleid
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Dec 15 @ 9:08 PM ET
Is HBSL really messed up right now?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 15 @ 9:08 PM ET
Yahtzee!

Kevin Oklobzija @kevinoDandC · 1m 1 minute ago
With Torrey Mitchell injured (lower body), #Amerks center Mikhail Grigorenko is on his way to #Sabrres. They play at Winnipeg Tuesday.

- Sabresfan-365

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 15 @ 9:09 PM ET
Bring on Neuvirth !
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 15 @ 9:09 PM ET
Is HBSL really messed up right now?
- Herzeleid

Seems it. check your "set roster" button
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