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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 16 @ 12:46 PM ET
Never
- Buffalo-Sabres


You are going to have to give to get, especially a top 10 scorer at 23.

Hodgson, Stewart, Staff, Foligno, A complation of picks is not going to do it.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 16 @ 12:46 PM ET
Man, that is a hell of a deal. I have no idea if I do that or not.
- ImThatGuy

If Hall is on the block, it's around what it would take IMO.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
hoarders
- homiedclown

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
hoarders
- homiedclown



If not for hoarders, you'd have no storage bays to buy.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
Tyler Ennis + Nikita Zadorov for Taylor Hall
- sbroads24


Oh my...
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 12:48 PM ET
Tyler Ennis + Nikita Zadorov for Taylor Hall
- sbroads24


That one definitely hurts, which means it is fair value.

My two cents on trying to get Hall: keeping the top 3 D for the future (Myers, Ristoalinen, Zadarov) is crucial for long term success.

On the young forwards the team has, excluding perhaps Reinhart, Hall is everything you hope that anyone of Baptiste, Compher, Grigorenko, Armia, Fasching could be and more.

None of those would be excempt from going the other way in a deal for Hall.

What EDM would probably want or be willing to take: Myers, Compher, Grigorenko, 1st.

That is A LOT. I think the most I would offer would be Compher, Grigorenko, Pysyk, 1st.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 16 @ 12:49 PM ET
That one definitely hurts, which means it is fair value.

My two cents on trying to get Hall: keeping the top 3 D for the future (Myers, Ristoalinen, Zadarov) is crucial for long term success.

On the young forwards the team has, excluding perhaps Reinhart, Hall is everything you hope that anyone of Baptiste, Compher, Grigorenko, Armia, Fasching could be and more.

None of those would be excempt from going the other way in a deal for Hall.

What EDM would probably want or be willing to take: Myers, Compher, Grigorenko, 1st.

That is A LOT. I think the most I would offer would be Compher, Grigorenko, Pysyk, 1st.

- kingcong39


Compher, Baptiste, Grigorenko have little to no trade value at this point.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 16 @ 12:52 PM ET
You are going to have to give to get, especially a top 10 scorer at 23.

Hodgson, Stewart, Staff, Foligno, A complation of picks is not going to do it.

- ImThatGuy



Who said "we" need to be the ones to get Hall. If the Oilers are out of their mind and they are likely to be, they can fark off. We are the ones with the stacked pipeline and 3 first round picks next year.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 16 @ 12:54 PM ET


What EDM would probably want or be willing to take: Myers, Compher, Grigorenko, 1st.

I think that could get it done ! They might be weary of taking on another Russian though after the Yakupov debacle
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 16 @ 12:54 PM ET
What EDM would probably want or be willing to take: Myers, Compher, Grigorenko, 1st.

I think that could get it done ! They might be weary of taking on another Russian though after the Yakupov debacle

- Pegullaville

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
If not for hoarders, you'd have no storage bays to buy.
- dadeadhead

this
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
Who said "we" need to be the ones to get Hall. If the Oilers are out of their mind and they are likely to be, they can fark off. We are the ones with the stacked pipeline and 3 first round picks next year.
- Buffalo-Sabres


And they have a ppg winger that is 23 that the entire NHL would want.

It goes both ways.

You are not getting him for parts.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 16 @ 12:57 PM ET

- Der Kaiser



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 12:57 PM ET

- dadeadhead

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rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
Tyler Ennis + Nikita Zadorov for Taylor Hall
- sbroads24


no chance
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
Stephan Weiss out again with a bum shoulder.


Might be Holland's worst signing of his career.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/starting-goalies/

4-2 sabres

gringo, girgens, gionta and ennis with the goals


then people cry how the sabres really are not playing as good as their recent record shows
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Compher, Baptiste, Grigorenko have little to no trade value at this point.
- ImThatGuy


Disagree, quite a bit.

They are not just prospect throw-ins. All have legitimate upside, and two of those can be quality centers.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/starting-goalies/

4-2 sabres

gringo, girgens, gionta and ennis with the goals


then people cry how the sabres really are not playing as good as their recent record shows

- homiedclown



Timmy better have a helluva plan B
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/starting-goalies/



then people cry how the sabres really are not playing as good as their recent record shows

- homiedclown

Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Disagree, quite a bit.

They are not just prospect throw-ins. All have legitimate upside, and two of those can be quality centers.

- kingcong39




Agree. Plus at their stage they quickly can from lump group of prospects, to differentiating themselves from the group. The media we are reading on these guys isn't just fluff either.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/starting-goalies/

4-2 sabres

gringo, girgens, gionta and ennis with the goals


then people cry how the sabres really are not playing as good as their recent record shows

- homiedclown



IMO Ted Nolan is the candidate for the Jack Adams.

They keep it up and he's the runaway winner.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
If Hall is on the block, it's around what it would take IMO.
- sbroads24


I don't think Ennis and Zadorov gets it done for Hall IMO. Maybe if you replace Zadorov with Myers you can get the ball rolling.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
What EDM would probably want or be willing to take: Myers, Compher, Grigorenko, 1st.

I think that could get it done ! They might be weary of taking on another Russian though after the Yakupov debacle

- Pegullaville



I think we've got plenty of assets to make more than a few "fair" offers, but my guess is the conversation for them starts and ends at Ristolainen and or Girgensons.

If you miss out on drafting top 10, these are the kind of moves you have to stomach to make up for it.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:20 PM ET
IMO Ted Nolan is the candidate for the Jack Adams.

They keep it up and he's the runaway winner.

- dadeadhead

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