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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:43 AM ET
I think that there are better players to get if teams start selling off then Hall right now..

Colorado could sell a piece or two...

Carolina could sell some guys..

Columbus could sell some pieces..

Even Arizona has some solid pieces...

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
True statement...

I'm not 100% tunnel visioned on Hall though either...

There are plenty of other guys that could be had at the right price but I don't believe for a minute that we are going to be "buyers" regardless.

We have seen how well Murray can take apart a team and get draft picks just like Regier could.... but now we will get to see if Murray can BUILD a team unlike Regier ever could.

- JVince11


Murray from day 1 has said he'd be a buyer of young talent in flux on other teams. And if these silly rumors are true, he should be hounding the Oil right now.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
The winning has been fun, but I still think this team is more likely a bottom-5 squad than a playoff team. The season is way too long for the goalies to maintain a level of play that wins them games when they are outshot by double digits nightly. If Hall were available and it took Myers to land him, the Sabres would still have a very reasonable shot at Hanifin or Kylington in the draft.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
I think that there are better players to get if teams start selling off then Hall right now..

Colorado could sell a piece or two...

Carolina could sell some guys..

Columbus could sell some pieces..

Even Arizona has some solid pieces...

- JVince11

how many players on those 4 teams combined are better than hall for the next 10 years?

maybe 1 or 2 from colorado and Johansen
then again maybe Hall is better
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
I think that there are better players to get if teams start selling off then Hall right now..

Colorado could sell a piece or two...

Carolina could sell some guys..

Columbus could sell some pieces..

Even Arizona has some solid pieces...

- JVince11


Im not sure who on those teams is better than Hall. Maybe cheaper to acquire, but not better.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
Im not sure who on those teams is better than Hall. Maybe cheaper to acquire, but not better.
- ImThatGuy

Maybe Mackinnon.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
Im not sure who on those teams is better than Hall. Maybe cheaper to acquire, but not better.
- ImThatGuy

Duchene
maybe
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
I'd start with Pysyk, the Isles 1st, and StL 1st.


Go from there.

- dadeadhead

Dial Tone
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
Maybe Mackinnon.
- Pierceme69


I should have stated "Reportedly available"
SABRES 89
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Dec 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
Hall was a number 1 pick, 23 yrs old and a 1st line player that can put up 80 points. You will not get him for picks it need's to start with Myers.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
Dial Tone
- SABRES 89

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
I think that there are better players to get if teams start selling off then Hall right now..

Colorado could sell a piece or two...

Carolina could sell some guys..

Columbus could sell some pieces..

Even Arizona has some solid pieces...

- JVince11



Only knock on Hall is his rugged style tends to wind him up injured.

From an age and forward perspective; Unless Colorado sells off any of Mac, Duchene, or Landeskog, there aren't any player on those teams listed that are better than Hall.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
True statement...

I'm not 100% tunnel visioned on Hall though either...

There are plenty of other guys that could be had at the right price but I don't believe for a minute that we are going to be "buyers" regardless.

We have seen how well Murray can take apart a team and get draft picks just like Regier could.... but now we will get to see if Murray can BUILD a team unlike Regier ever could.

- JVince11


If we win 3 of next 5 - which we can - we're buyers.
aschwach
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Post Darcy Valhalla , NY
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think that there are better players to get if teams start selling off then Hall right now..

Colorado could sell a piece or two...

Carolina could sell some guys..

Columbus could sell some pieces..

Even Arizona has some solid pieces...

- JVince11


I agree....and it probably won't cost one of the guys we are looking to build around like Risto or Zadorov.....from Az Hanzal or vermette would be a nice additions....obviously they are not elite scorers but they are true Centers that can help down the middle and at both ends of the ice
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think that there are better players to get if teams start selling off then Hall right now..

Colorado could sell a piece or two... As long as ROR isn't in the conversation, I'm game

Carolina could sell some guys..Who's worth pursuing besides Skinner? And he'll be almost as expensive as Hall and he's definitely not the same caliber.

Columbus could sell some pieces..Won't happen. They're like a year or two ahead of us in their rebuilding. Any young noteworthy talent is staying put.

Even Arizona has some solid pieces... What, Boedker? Why? Yandle would be a dandy catch, but his cost is probably too much for what you get back. OEL...lol.. then what. I don't see them giving away any of their young talent either. If you want to go young talent hunting, you attack players in flux or playoff teams with spare pieces that they won't need for a few years.

- JVince11

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:52 AM ET
Hall was a number 1 pick, 23 yrs old and a 1st line player that can put up 80 points. You will not get him for picks it need's to start with Myers.
- SABRES 89



It doesn't need to start with him, it does makes it easier though.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
The winning has been fun, but I still think this team is more likely a bottom-5 squad than a playoff team. The season is way too long for the goalies to maintain a level of play that wins them games when they are outshot by double digits nightly. If Hall were available and it took Myers to land him, the Sabres would still have a very reasonable shot at Hanifin or Kylington in the draft.
- Pierceme69


We're not winning with goalie play.

Save percentage last two games .885
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:54 AM ET
We're not winning with goalie play.

Save percentage last two games .885

- Der Kaiser

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
It doesn't need to start with him, it does makes it easier though.
- dadeadhead

most of the times, when a player like Hall is traded, 3 or 4 pieces of lesser value go the other way
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
I agree....and it probably won't cost one of the guys we are looking to build around like Risto or Zadorov.....from Az Hanzal or vermette would be a nice additions....obviously they are not elite scorers but they are true Centers that can help down the middle and at both ends of the ice
- aschwach


We don't need Centers though. We need scoring wingers, badly.
SABRES 89
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Dec 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
It doesn't need to start with him, it does makes it easier though.
- dadeadhead

It starts with Myers or they move along.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
Only knock on Hall is his rugged style tends to wind him up injured.

From an age and forward perspective; Unless Colorado sells off any of Mac, Duchene, or Landeskog, there aren't any player on those teams listed that are better than Hall.

- dadeadhead

Ryan Johansen could be close
or he could be another staff
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
It starts with Myers or they move along.
- SABRES 89



Disagree.

SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Dec 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
2 weeks ago the Oilers have a BULL$$$T presser (where have we seen that before) to tell everyone that everything is fine and to stay the corse, then they fire there coach after saying everything is fine, now the media or the Oilers start the Taylor Hall might be moved crap? I don't buy it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
Disagree.
- dadeadhead

most of the times, when a player like Hall is traded, 3 or 4 pieces of lesser value go the other way
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