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Frank.Grimes
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall's been pretty much nothing but potential so far, then I saw his numbers from last year-GOODPLAY, AB
Joined: 12.02.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Hunt and Schultz play completely different roles than Marincin. Marincin is not a Pp guy with a shot. Hunt is nothing more than a temp call up. He lights up the AHL same as Schultz did. Neither should be a core dman.
- Iggysbff

Wow does somebody ever drink the Kool aid. Having a dman who can actually play d and on top of that can move the puck out of our own zone isn't more valuable to have in the lineup rather than a guy who can shoot the puck on the pp? Fact is Hunt is not a capable NHL dman and he should not be counted on for any minutes other than pp minutes and even that is questionable. How many shorthanded breakaways or odd man rushes are acceptable? On the Oilers apparently as many as we can possibly give up because we need the guy who can shoot the puck hard on the pp. The majority of the game is played 5 on 5. If we are gonna shoot ourselves in the foot 5 on 5 by putting plugs like Hunt in our top 6 d than our pp doesn't even matter anyways.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 2:07 PM ET

- DDM-Coga



Nice to see the #tankbuddies sticking together.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Dec 14 @ 2:07 PM ET
A little old, but still...

TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:07 PM ET
Wow does somebody ever drink the Kool aid. Having a dman who can actually play d and on top of that can move the puck out of our own zone isn't more valuable to have in the lineup rather than a guy who can shoot the puck on the pp? Fact is Hunt is not a capable NHL dman and he should not be counted on for any minutes other than pp minutes and even that is questionable. How many shorthanded breakaways or odd man rushes are acceptable? On the Oilers apparently as many as we can possibly give up because we need the guy who can shoot the puck hard on the pp. The majority of the game is played 5 on 5. If we are gonna shoot ourselves in the foot 5 on 5 by putting plugs like Hunt in our top 6 d than our pp doesn't even matter anyways.
- Frank.Grimes


Who is this defenseman you speak of?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
A week or so old, but still...


- laughs2907

tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
I call bullpoop. I found this and many others quite easily.


- golfingsince

TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
Why do you think Hunt is coming up? Our PP is 3 for the last 28. Its pretty clear what they are bringing him in for. Klef has been looking better on the pp but we have no other shot from the blue line.
- Iggysbff



Hunt the PP savior.

Kill me.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
Wow does somebody ever drink the Kool aid. Having a dman who can actually play d and on top of that can move the puck out of our own zone isn't more valuable to have in the lineup rather than a guy who can shoot the puck on the pp? Fact is Hunt is not a capable NHL dman and he should not be counted on for any minutes other than pp minutes and even that is questionable. How many shorthanded breakaways or odd man rushes are acceptable? On the Oilers apparently as many as we can possibly give up because we need the guy who can shoot the puck hard on the pp. The majority of the game is played 5 on 5. If we are gonna shoot ourselves in the foot 5 on 5 by putting plugs like Hunt in our top 6 d than our pp doesn't even matter anyways.
- Frank.Grimes

Well put.
Frank.Grimes
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall's been pretty much nothing but potential so far, then I saw his numbers from last year-GOODPLAY, AB
Joined: 12.02.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
Who is this defenseman you speak of?
- TokenBlack

Martin Marincin was hands down one of our better possession dmen when in the lineup. He was out against the other teams top competition and was still consistently getting the job done. I'll take whatever hiccups he has in his development over the blatant turnovers and horrible defensive positioning of a Hunt or Schultz.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
Nice to see the #tankbuddies sticking together.
- Nucker101


damn rights, look at how happy we are together
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
Looks that way, rip the fans off. That hilarious presser from MacT saying the status quo remains. But make no mistake people, they are "pissed off". That should make everyone feel better.
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:13 PM ET
Martin Marincin was hands down one of our better possession dmen when in he lineup. He was out against the other teams top competition and was still consistently getting the job done. I'll take whatever hiccups he has in his development over the blatant turnovers and horrible defensive positioning of a Hunt or Schultz.
- Frank.Grimes


Well this possession you speak of has not helped the Oilers one tick this season. Like I said before about Marty, maybe management had asked him to do something like hit the weight room harder and he hasn't listened so he is in the AHL until he learns to listen. Either way Marincin isn't going to come up and magically save the Oilers.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:14 PM ET
Good blog.

Is it purposeful? Im not sure anymore. The personnel decisions are questionable at best, and with a prize like Macdavid or Eichel at years end....who knows what a group of incompetents is capable of.

I do know this: the intentions mean nothing at this point. Either it's intentional, which is unacceptable, or it's not, which might be even scarier. Bottom line is, in any other organization with a record of futility like Edmonton's, the owner would have burnt it down, salted the earth and moved on. In Edmonton though, as long as you won a Stanley Cup 30 years ago, your job is safe.

I have no faith left. None.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Dec 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
damn rights, look at how happy we are together

- DDM-Coga


I wonder if that was before or after RNH gave his belly a scratch?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
I'm sure that little twirp Bettman will figure out a way to steer the first two picks into a US market.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Well this possession you speak of has not helped the Oilers one tick this season. Like I said before about Marty, maybe management had asked him to do something like hit the weight room harder and he hasn't listened so he is in the AHL until he learns to listen. Either way Marincin isn't going to come up and magically save the Oilers.
- TokenBlack

It's just one questionable decision amongst many. Individually they seem minor. Collectively they add up to the product you see now.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Dec 14 @ 2:17 PM ET
'm pretty sure a bunch of guys on this thread could grab our bags and sticks from the garage, hop a jet to EDM and suit up for these monkeys. What on earth is going on?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Dec 14 @ 2:17 PM ET
Good blog.

Is it purposeful? Im not sure anymore. The personnel decisions are questionable at best, and with a prize like Macdavid or Eichel at years end....who knows what a group of incompetents is capable of.

I do know this: the intentions mean nothing at this point. Either it's intentional, which is unacceptable, or it's not, which might be even scarier. Bottom line is, in any other organization with a record of futility like Edmonton's, the owner would have burnt it down, salted the earth and moved ion. In Edmonton though, as long as you won a Stanley Cup 30 years ago, your job is safe.

I have no faith left. None.

- TheTaoOfSemenko


The Oilers organization is ran by a group of arrogant wieners. Just saw the Lowe, "Winning" comment again at the end of that video I posted... What a POS.
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Dec 14 @ 2:17 PM ET
Not sure how the NHL could "step in" in a circumstance other than receivership or potential bankruptcy - meaning financial performance.

I could see McDavid/Eichel pulling a Lindros though and refusing to play in Edmonton if the front office direction doesn't change. Why would the kid's parents or management team want to send him to a directionless ship? The perception couldn't be worse. Looks like the coach has lost the room and you have a delusional front office. In contrast, the Panthers and Sabres at least appear to have a plan. Obviously the Nucks now do.

Hope something happens. Great city and fanbase - you deserve better. Believe me, long term Hawks fans can relate completely after the Pulford/Wirtz decades long tyranny of incompetence.
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's just one questionable decision amongst many. Individually they seem minor. Collectively they add up to the product you see now.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


I'm just saying that maybe there is a reason for some of the decisions that we are not privy to, it is a lot easier to just say everyone is stupid or trying to tank instead of admitting that maybe the player themselves has (frank)ed up.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Dec 14 @ 2:18 PM ET
'm pretty sure a bunch of guys on this thread could grab our bags and sticks from the garage, hop a jet to EDM and suit up for these monkeys. What on earth is going on?
- JLO961


We'd play with more heart, that's for sure.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:19 PM ET
'm pretty sure a bunch of guys on this thread could grab our bags and sticks from the garage, hop a jet to EDM and suit up for these monkeys. What on earth is going on?
- JLO961

Never thought I would pine for the days when we squeaked into 8th spot.
Frank.Grimes
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall's been pretty much nothing but potential so far, then I saw his numbers from last year-GOODPLAY, AB
Joined: 12.02.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:19 PM ET
Well this possession you speak of has not helped the Oilers one tick this season. Like I said before about Marty, maybe management had asked him to do something like hit the weight room harder and he hasn't listened so he is in the AHL until he learns to listen. Either way Marincin isn't going to come up and magically save the Oilers.
- TokenBlack

In no way did I say that Marincin would save the Oilers. I just stated that he is a better option on d than Hunt. Even if we get the pp going for every 1 pp goal we get I bet Hunt will be out there 5 on 5 for 2 goals against. Really Hunt should never see another contract from the Oilers after this one's up. Marincin on the other hand should be with this team for at least a few more years. Which one is more valuable to the future of our team? Definitely not Hunt an almost 30 year old career AHLer who's track record has shown he doesn't belong in the NHL.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 14 @ 2:20 PM ET
I'm just saying that maybe there is a reason for some of the decisions that we are not privy to, it is a lot easier to just say everyone is stupid or trying to tank instead of admitting that maybe the player themselves has (frank)ed up.
- TokenBlack

How can you have any faith whatsoever that any decision this management group makes has a rational thought behind it?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Dec 14 @ 2:21 PM ET


Hunt the PP savior.

Kill me.

- TheTaoOfSemenko

I don't think he's the saviour. But at least they're trying something to get it going. Nothing else has worked. Want to keep doing the same thing?
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