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JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Dec 11 @ 9:01 AM ET
Seriously though. What would it take to pry a Weber or Pietrangelo type D-man away. In your opinion.
- GOA88


What would it take for you to trade Giroux away?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 11 @ 9:03 AM ET
I would do that trade straight up... No questions asked. Signed sealed delivered
- Just5


I don't think Tim Murray does a deal for Couturier. He did not like him at the draft. And, if anything, his rep has slipped over the last couple of years.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 11 @ 9:03 AM ET
If a team is stupid enough to trade a perennial Norris candidate locked up long-term for a good (albeit slumping) winger, one of the worst contracts in the league, and our 1st...I will eat a shoe. I will literally cook and eat a shoe.
- jmatchett383


Hell, I'll bring the beer and join you!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 9:03 AM ET
Seriously though. What would it take to pry a Weber or Pietrangelo type D-man away. In your opinion.
- GOA88

Not for (frank)in sale, especially for what you think is an acceptable offer.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
I don't think Tim Murray does a deal for Couturier. He did not like him at the draft. And, if anything, his rep has slipped over the last couple of years.
- spatso


Cooter's rep has slipped? He finished 8th or something like that last year in Selke voting...
dmleip
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.04.2009

Dec 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
I think it's still a little early to fully gauge Coots full offensive potential. If the players around him were flourishing than there would be more room for concern.

On the bright side, it's nice to see Brayden Schenn score some clutch goals late in games this year.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM ET
I would do that trade straight up... No questions asked. Signed sealed delivered
- Just5

Except we don't have the cap room. Couts is $1.75 M. Myers is $5.5M. They need to take Umberger or VLC...and then they are going to want something else to do that.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 11 @ 9:06 AM ET
Because Vinny isn't being scratched because he made mistakes, he's being scratched because he's not a fit on the ice.

Not sure why Lecavalier being scratched is news. The Flyers spent all summer trying to move him. They very clearly do not see him in their plans

- Jsaquella


What the hell is there for Berube to say?

"Well Vinny, its like this. You suck. You just suck. You're as useful to this team as tits on a bull. Enjoy the popcorn and feel free to waive your NTC, oh, BTW, retirement would be a fine choice as well."
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 11 @ 9:08 AM ET
Except we don't have the cap room. Couts is $1.75 M. Myers is $5.5M. They need to take Umberger or VLC...and then they are going to want something else to do that.
- section32


Exactly -- thanks for saving everybody the trouble of typing this out all day
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 9:12 AM ET
That's what i see -- not quite understanding why it's a big deal to keep scratching a player who wasn'tt helping the team win.

Berube isn't scratching the 52-goal scoring Lecavalier. He's scratching a 34-year-old one-way center who truly struggles to keep up with the pace of play at ES.

In other words, In this case, Berube is doing his job, since the Flyers roster simply should not carry a player with that profile, since they are trying to be a two-way team that checks first

- AllInForFlyers

We're already losing. I'm not sure how much slower anyone can say this. We haven't gotten any better even by scratching him. The way we lost on Tuesday with our best defensive forwards on the ice, plus our lack luster PK is sad. How much worse can it get? How much of this can you pin on one player? Complete and total tunnel vision for one player's faults, while having this ridiculous fear to scrtach others right after a march to the press box two short weeks ago.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM ET
Except we don't have the cap room. Couts is $1.75 M. Myers is $5.5M. They need to take Umberger or VLC...and then they are going to want something else to do that.
- section32


The only thing that will get Hextall's attention is something that involves a huge relief on the cap. Murray might do LeCavalier, Umberger and the #1 (2015) for Myers. But, I don't think Hextall does the deal.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM ET
What the hell is there for Berube to say?

"Well Vinny, its like this. You suck. You just suck. You're as useful to this team as tits on a bull. Enjoy the popcorn and feel free to waive your NTC, oh, BTW, retirement would be a fine choice as well."

- BiggE

The team sucks. You can use a bunch of words, I only need three.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 11 @ 9:14 AM ET
Lecavalier is awful

The End. (Good song)
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM ET
Holmgren is awful

The End. (Good song)

- Giroux_Is_God


3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 11 @ 9:15 AM ET
What the hell is there for Berube to say?

"Well Vinny, its like this. You suck. You just suck. You're as useful to this team as tits on a bull. Enjoy the popcorn and feel free to waive your NTC, oh, BTW, retirement would be a fine choice as well."

- BiggE



Berube could also ask Vinny to convince his buddy " Hamburglar" to take the same advice
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM ET
We're already losing. I'm not sure how much slower anyone can say this. We haven't gotten any better even by scratching him. The way we lost on Tuesday with our best defensive forwards on the ice, plus our lack luster PK is sad. How much worse can it get? How much of this can you pin on one player? Complete and total tunnel vision for one player's faults, while having this ridiculous fear to scrtach others right after a march to the press box two short weeks ago.
- SuperSchennBros


If you don't think the Flyers aren't worse when Lecavalier tries to play hockey for them, then we clearly don't watch the game the same

Because yeah, even a replacement-level player who can skate and backcheck is a better fit for the Flyers roster
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 11 @ 9:16 AM ET

- PLindbergh31

Tapskulling on faceshells
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 11 @ 9:17 AM ET
Well scratch Babcock off the coach wish list

Just heard on Toronto radio that the Wings are close on long term contract extension
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM ET
Well scratch Babcock off the coach wish list

Just heard on Toronto radio that the Wings are close on long term contract extension

- 3flyerkids


They looked good last night, too. Reimer made three or four saves he had no business making
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 9:18 AM ET
If you don't think the Flyers aren't worse when Lecavalier tries to play hockey for them, then we clearly don't watch the game the same

Because yeah, even a replacement-level player who can skate and backcheck is a better fit for the Flyers roster

- AllInForFlyers


Vinny was getting fourth line limited minutes the last number of games when he did play and the team couldn't cash. You can't blame a guy for everything while he's barely playing. We're not even treading in the right direction.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM ET
Berube could also ask Vinny to convince his buddy " Hamburglar" to take the same advice
- 3flyerkids

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM ET
Well scratch Babcock off the coach wish list

Just heard on Toronto radio that the Wings are close on long term contract extension

- 3flyerkids

And in a movie that would surprise no one....
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 11 @ 9:19 AM ET
The only thing that will get Hextall's attention is something that involves a huge relief on the cap. Murray might do LeCavalier, Umberger and the #1 (2015) for Myers. But, I don't think Hextall does the deal.
- spatso


Hextall won't part with that 1st rounder unless he gets a crazy deal. That pick could be anywhere between 1-15, most likely in the top 10 at this point.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM ET
Well scratch Babcock off the coach wish list

Just heard on Toronto radio that the Wings are close on long term contract extension

- 3flyerkids


No worries. Flyers have a great coach waiting in the wings!

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 11 @ 9:21 AM ET
the flyers are playing the devils tonight? i am so depressed that literally have zero (frank)s to give about this game.
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