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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:40 PM ET
haha neither has vinny lately.
- stayinthefnnet

so we gain nothing
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:40 PM ET
Nope. Bring up hungry, young players like Taylor Leier. No need to hand a faded star an opportunity, especially when he seems to feel he doesn't have to earn ice time.
- Jsaquella


In my opinion, you don't bring up a player like Leier because he's young and hungry. If Leier is NHL ready, and he can help the team, then by all means. But if he needs more AHL time, leave him down there.

At some point Lecavalier is going to get back in the lineup. What he's suggesting is not an outlandish idea.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 5:41 PM ET
No doubt that would be the best way to use Lecavalier. I just don't know that the Flyers should be arranging their team to try and fit Lecavalier in. I don't know how he has looked in practice, but I have a hard time agreeing with putting him back in the lineup.
- MJL

A game or two shouldn't hurt us anymore then we've been hurting.

How did you feel the Flyers played against the Jackets on Tuesday?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 11 @ 5:41 PM ET
Wow, why try anything. Let's go from 9-13-5 to 18-26-10 by doing nothing. Let's continue to believe this poop will fix itself.
- SuperSchennBros


It's not getting fixed... even the GM doesn't think this team is going anywhere. Just take the lottery pick, and tick one year off our albatrosses.

(btw, you realize VL's played w/ G and Jake before, right? Couldn't keep up)
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 5:42 PM ET
So how awesome would a Michalek/Lecavalier swap be?
- JAKEw1234

I would do it, I'm just not sure if Ottawa should.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 5:43 PM ET
It's not getting fixed... even the GM doesn't think this team is going anywhere. Just take the lottery pick, and tick one year off our albatrosses.

(btw, you realize VL's played w/ G and Jake before, right? Couldn't keep up)

- Tomahawk

When? I'm not even suggesting Lecavalier should play with both players.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Dec 11 @ 5:44 PM ET
So how awesome would a Michalek/Lecavalier swap be?
- JAKEw1234

E?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:44 PM ET
A game or two shouldn't hurt us anymore then we've been hurting.

How did you feel the Flyers played against the Jackets on Tuesday?

- SuperSchennBros



I've been as big as a supporter of Lecavalier as anyone. I gave him all the benefit of the doubt last year due to his injury and the position change to LW, which he couldn't play. When he came back from the foot issue this year, he didn't do anything that showed he deserved ice time. Think about how bad this team has been, and yet, I can't come up with a reason to play him. What does that say? Like I said earlier, I can't see how he looks in practice.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:45 PM ET
It's not getting fixed... even the GM doesn't think this team is going anywhere. Just take the lottery pick, and tick one year off our albatrosses.

(btw, you realize VL's played w/ G and Jake before, right? Couldn't keep up)

- Tomahawk


While it's tough to watch, it's part of the process Hextall has in mind.

JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Dec 11 @ 5:45 PM ET
E?
- Winning

What?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 11 @ 5:47 PM ET
When? I'm not even suggesting Lecavalier should play with both players.
- SuperSchennBros


Just this season, he's spend about 10-12 shifts w/ them at ES here and there.

Last season, they tried him on that line full-time for a few games. Disaster.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 11 @ 5:48 PM ET
Man, for all this promise LeCavalier has.. All he needs is just to be put in a "right spot".

I wonder why teams aren't lining up to trade for him.

(frank)ing Hawking would get points on a line with G and Jake.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 11 @ 5:48 PM ET
Just this season, he's spend about 10-12 shifts w/ them at ES here and there.

Last season, they tried him on that line full-time for a few games. Disaster.

- Tomahawk

I'm calling BS. Lecavalier never played with Giroux and Voracek full time at any point.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
Just this season, he's spend about 10-12 shifts w/ them at ES here and there.

Last season, they tried him on that line full-time for a few games. Disaster.

- Tomahawk


He was playing the left side. He can't play that side with anyone.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
I'm calling BS. Lecavalier never played with Giroux and Voracek full time at any point.
- SuperSchennBros


Why not? Hes done so well with them on 5 on 3's.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 11 @ 5:51 PM ET
Mitch Hedburg












stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 11 @ 5:55 PM ET
so we gain nothing
- 2Real


essentially, i guess. i really dont think there is anything to gain from the VLC deal for you guys.

maybe he proves me wrong. but i just dont see how it can be sliced where it isnt a net loss.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
Mitch Hedburg













- MBFlyerfan

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Dec 11 @ 5:58 PM ET
essentially, i guess. i really dont think there is anything to gain from the VLC deal for you guys.

maybe he proves me wrong. but i just dont see how it can be sliced where it isnt a net loss.

- stayinthefnnet


If the team and Vinny can come to terms with the whole thing being a mistake and he agrees to terminate the deal, I could live with it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 11 @ 6:03 PM ET
If the team and Vinny can come to terms with the whole thing being a mistake and he agrees to terminate the deal, I could live with it.
- tangent_man


Maybe the Sixers will take on the deal if the Flyers include a pick
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 11 @ 6:05 PM ET
I smell a win tonight!





























No seriously
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
I smell a win tonight!

No seriously

- PhillySportsGuy

YOU MUST BE IN JERSEY
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 6:08 PM ET
Except Lecavalier has had a career that says he's earned the opportunity.
- SuperSchennBros


Sorry but that's ridiculous. When you're trying to win games now and not in the past, it's all about what you've done lately. And he hasn't done poop.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
I'm calling BS. Lecavalier never played with Giroux and Voracek full time at any point.
- SuperSchennBros


http://www.delawareonline...new-line-pairing/3184959/

Raffl-G-Vinny was a thing for a bit. I think Vinny-G-Jake got some time together, too.

He spent more than 100mins last season w/ G, and 50+mins w/ Jake. Dragged both their numbers down across the board.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 11 @ 6:11 PM ET
Maybe the Sixers will take on the deal if the Flyers include a pick
- PhillySportsGuy

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