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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Dec 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
Fair point, but who knows what he was told when they signed him.
- johndewar

"Lavi will be your coach."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
Fair point, but who knows what he was told when they signed him.
- johndewar


Something along the lines of, "We will give you $5 million US dollars per year."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
HA! thanks for this
- stayinthefnnet


You're welcome young sir.

Are you lawyering yet? You've been in law school for like 90 years now.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 1:10 PM ET
Boston waited over 40 years.

You hope the number one dman is in the ranks. Morin or Sanheim or maybe if you do make a deal for Myers he plays to potential. People forget that Chara wasn't an instant monster. The islanders gave up on him and then Ottawa picked Redden over him.

I just hope that Hextall was part of a build in LA and knows what is needed to bring a cup here.

- J35Bacher


Even if there is a # 1 dman in the Flyers current prospect pool (that is a huge if) he's years away from being that type of player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:11 PM ET
their schedule seems to soften up as the season goes on, but between a seven point gap to bridge and the general lack of cohesion, I'm not so optimistic.
- BulliesPhan87



The lower part of their division isn't that good. I think it's going to be tough, but I think they'll get close. Either squeak in or fall a few points short, but they have to turn it around pretty soon. It doesn't matter, because Murray isn't giving up Myers and taking on both Lecavalier and Umberger for the Flyers first pick, no matter where it falls.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 1:12 PM ET
Even if there is a # 1 dman in the Flyers current prospect pool (that is a huge if) he's years away from being that type of player.
- PLindbergh31


I'm really hoping some trade comes along a la the Gomez for Higgins and McDonagh deal, where the Flyers are the ones trading the Gomez-type.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Dec 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
condolences to the gagne clan...

now down to businach... if babcock is signing longterm with detroit, i can't think of anyone other than mebbe mclellan (providing he is let go)that jumps out at me... that being said ill take a set of murray retreads... unless theres some upstart behind yhe bench you guys can give me. really think murray would be a good fit here now.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
Not too far off:




- Tomahawk


because it's true.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
You're welcome young sir.

Are you lawyering yet? You've been in law school for like 90 years now.

- jmatchett383


it sure (frank)ing feels like it. especially during this time of year.

right now im turning a notebook and a half full of notes into one usable outline. a process that should take roughly a week, but im going to try to do it in one night, because due to the complexity of my other classes, ive basically treated this one like a vinny and gave it the old healthy scratch throughout the course of the year.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
Tough being patient with a 40 year Cup drought, and no ending in sight. But what other choice do we have? Hextall did inherit a mess. I know things can change quickly, but hard to see where that true # 1 dman is coming from.
- PLindbergh31


they've got some interesting prospects at d and f right now...i think this will be a vastly different flyers team in 3 years. perhaps a legit contender in 4-5. and if they tank it right, that path can be accelerated, unless of course our franchise player becomes dismembered in a farming accident over the summer.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:19 PM ET
Don't you know? According to him, he's playing just fine.
- jmatchett383


i do know.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
condolences to the gagne clan...

now down to businach... if babcock is signing longterm with detroit, i can't think of anyone other than mebbe mclellan (providing he is let go)that jumps out at me... that being said ill take a set of murray retreads... unless theres some upstart behind yhe bench you guys can give me. really think murray would be a good fit here now.

- JoeRussomanno



If you want an upstart coach i would take Blashill in Grand Rapids. Seems like those kids that come up to Detriot are fully prepared. I prefer a new coach over a retread at this point.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
Fair point, but who knows what he was told when they signed him.
- johndewar


doesn't matter what, if anything, he was told. new gm. new coach.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:20 PM ET
And talk to those girls who are clearly fans of Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, and other awesome hair metal bands!


- wolfhounds

Dio.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 11 @ 1:23 PM ET
it sure (frank)ing feels like it. especially during this time of year.

right now im turning a notebook and a half full of notes into one usable outline. a process that should take roughly a week, but im going to try to do it in one night, because due to the complexity of my other classes, ive basically treated this one like a vinny and gave it the old healthy scratch throughout the course of the year.

- stayinthefnnet


I'll help you out. Ways to win a case as a lawyer:

1. Always arrive promptly, dress nicely, and loudly announce your arrival, such as screaming, "Who's the best (frank)ing lawyer ever!!!" as you walk in.

2. When addressing the judge, always smile and wink at him. If you're a defense lawyer, always call the prosecutor "the liar over there." If you're the prosecutor, always refer to the defendant as "the bumhole."

3. Always end every session of questioning with, "And that's the way the cookie crumbles."

You're welcome.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
The lower part of their division isn't that good. I think it's going to be tough, but I think they'll get close. Either squeak in or fall a few points short, but they have to turn it around pretty soon. It doesn't matter, because Murray isn't giving up Myers and taking on both Lecavalier and Umberger for the Flyers first pick, no matter where it falls.
- MJL

I guess we'll see, regarding where they finish. As for the trade scenario, you don't even think they do that for first overall?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
If Hextall did that deal with this draft class, I'd be done as a fan.
- JFlyers00



If Myers develops into a stud #1 defenseman, and the Flyers use the cap space gained to shore up other areas of the team, you'd jump back on the fan bus real quick.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:27 PM ET
You're right, Couturier is a bust. I mean, he's not like Patrice Bergeron, the defensive standout who scored a whopping 8 goals and 39 points in 64 games in his fourth season, the point where Couturier is now in his career. And really, that Boston team sucked that year, only being the 2nd best team in the NHL, compared to the offensive and defensive juggernaut that is the 14/15 Flyers. We should trade him for the first offer that comes along.
- jmatchett383

this is so misleading, had to respond. PB had already scored 31 goals by his 2nd yr. his regression was directly related to the severe concussion problems he had from the jones hit. Couts is no bergeron, but w/ some improvements in his game he could end up being a 60 pt guy.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:27 PM ET
If Myers develops into a stud #1 defenseman, and the Flyers use the cap space gained to shore up other areas of the team, you'd jump back on the fan bus real quick.
- MJL




Flyers use the cap space to sign Iginla for 8 years 64 million..
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 11 @ 1:30 PM ET
think about it. toronto, montreal, vancouver. major, major markets. then think about poop markets like tampa, miami, phx, carolina etc...it makes sense. and all the more reason the league should get out of poop markets and into better ones...and that includes canada.
- hammarby31


Yup. I just didn't think the number would be that high. Then again, Canadian don't have to split their entertainment budget between a bunch of other sports. It would seem to make sense to add another Canadian team or two.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 11 @ 1:34 PM ET
So Luke Schenn in for MDZ, while the assorted untouchables remain in.

This mess isn't all Berube's fault. He got dealt a bad hand. But he's playing it poorly. It's like he's at the World Series of Poker asking if anyone has any threes.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 11 @ 1:34 PM ET
I guess we'll see, regarding where they finish. As for the trade scenario, you don't even think they do that for first overall?
- BulliesPhan87


If his owner were willing to 'buy' that top-10 pick, you bet your ass Murray would do that trade in an instant. Even for a top-20 pick. With the way Myers has been playing, he's Luke Schenn on an albatross contract.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 11 @ 1:34 PM ET
I'll help you out. Ways to win a case as a lawyer:

1. Always arrive promptly, dress nicely, and loudly announce your arrival, such as screaming, "Who's the best (frank)ing lawyer ever!!!" as you walk in.

2. When addressing the judge, always smile and wink at him. If you're a defense lawyer, always call the prosecutor "the liar over there." If you're the prosecutor, always refer to the defendant as "the bumhole."

3. Always end every session of questioning with, "And that's the way the cookie crumbles."

You're welcome.

- jmatchett383


haha sounds foolproof to be.

Ahem.

Who's the best (frank)ing lawyer ever. The plaintiff Mr. Rutherford demands restitution for the Defendant, Mr. Hextall, unduly influencing the plaintiff at his nursing home, promising him to visit again and play a game of checkers in exchange for Rutherford's cup of green jello, to which Mr Rutherford is entitled to as a resident. However, after obtaining the jello through such reliance of agreement, defendant subsequently failed to return to visit Rutherford AT ANY POINT.

Rather than request specific performance, Rutherford requests the court institute alternative means of restitution, namely, the deliverance of one Matt Read, to be given in trust to Rutherford's employer, in exchange for one Brian Dumolin and a second round pick.

And that's the way the cookie crumbles.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 11 @ 1:35 PM ET
Yup. I just didn't think the number would be that high. Then again, Canadian don't have to split their entertainment budget between a bunch of other sports. It would seem to make sense to add another Canadian team or two.
- wolfhounds


eastern canada could support another toronto based team and a quebec team. consider that there 5 teams between boston, hartford, nyr, nyi, and njd in that narrow of a region at one point. does the nyc metropolitan area need 3 hockey teams? no.
not sure where else across canada could support any additional nhl squads that would be any different than bad american markets now. saskatoon was floated as a potential spot a long time ago. don't think that would fly.

in the us, the teams need to move north. simple as that.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 11 @ 1:35 PM ET
Flyers use the cap space to sign Iginla for 8 years 64 million..
- MBFlyerfan




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