100% Agree
- Tomahawk

I think the underlying problem is that the team is unwilling to embrace a rebuilding season. It would do the team so much good if they just sacrificed the season in order to evaluate the talent on the team and cleared some salary.

I'm not saying the team should tank, but if they believe Couts should be a 2nd line center, they should put him in that role and allow him to get second line type shifts.

If they think Laughton has shutdown center ability, they should throw him out against some top lines or in the defensive zone.

Perhaps, they get a good look at guys like Akeson, Straka and Leier to see if they're part of the future.

What good does it do this team to continually play vets on a bad team. No amount of window dressing is going to make Umberger or VL into a viable player. They are practically untradeable.

- johndewar

his cheeks must have sucked after a game. all sweaty and gnarly

soooo the flyers have mis-used akeson and mis-evaluated his skills, he passed thru waivers making peanuts but has potential to be one of the games greatest and may be able to turn the team/franchise around? yeah

soooo the flyers have mis-used akeson and mis-evaluated his skills, he passed thru waivers making peanuts but has potential to be one of the games greatest and may be able to turn the team/franchise around? yeah


- mydoglicks

Exactly. That's exactly what we've all been saying. Yes, we all firmly believe that Jason Akeson is a superstar in the making. The sole reason the Flyers are not winning is because they are not playing him. He's a player who will score 70 goals in a down year.

Yes, way to go, you nailed it on the head.

Eric Lindros
- jmatchett383

It's funny when Stevens tries.. he couldn't even reach Lindros' face lol... I still think Lindros could have owned him even more if he wanted to...

It's funny when Stevens tries.. he couldn't even reach Lindros' face lol... I still think Lindros could have owned him even more if he wanted to...
- WarriorHockey21

I always wondered what he's saying to Stevens at the end.

soooo the flyers have mis-used akeson and mis-evaluated his skills, he passed thru waivers making peanuts but has potential to be one of the games greatest and may be able to turn the team/franchise around? yeah


- mydoglicks

I always wondered what he's saying to Stevens at the end.
- jmatchett383

A million possibilities just went through my head that made me laugh...

A million possibilities just went through my head that made me laugh...
- WarriorHockey21

"So I was banging your mom last night, and I've got herpes!"

It's funny when Stevens tries.. he couldn't even reach Lindros' face lol... I still think Lindros could have owned him even more if he wanted to...
- WarriorHockey21

I think Stevens got the last laugh though.

I think the underlying problem is that the team is unwilling to embrace a rebuilding season. It would do the team so much good if they just sacrificed the season in order to evaluate the talent on the team and cleared some salary.

I'm not saying the team should tank, but if they believe Couts should be a 2nd line center, they should put him in that role and allow him to get second line type shifts.

If they think Laughton has shutdown center ability, they should throw him out against some top lines or in the defensive zone.

Perhaps, they get a good look at guys like Akeson, Straka and Leier to see if they're part of the future.

What good does it do this team to continually play vets on a bad team. No amount of window dressing is going to make Umberger or VL into a viable player. They are practically untradeable.
- PhillySportsGuy

Maybe we can all lay down in the streets outside of the next Flyers game and block traffic for a few hours to let Mr. Snider know how we feel. Apparently, that's the only way to have your voice heard.

I think Stevens got the last laugh though.
- KGBflyers10

Positively. However, in this case, he was simply a punching bag.

I think the underlying problem is that the team is unwilling to embrace a rebuilding season. It would do the team so much good if they just sacrificed the season in order to evaluate the talent on the team and cleared some salary.

I'm not saying the team should tank, but if they believe Couts should be a 2nd line center, they should put him in that role and allow him to get second line type shifts.

If they think Laughton has shutdown center ability, they should throw him out against some top lines or in the defensive zone.

Perhaps, they get a good look at guys like Akeson, Straka and Leier to see if they're part of the future.

What good does it do this team to continually play vets on a bad team. No amount of window dressing is going to make Umberger or VL into a viable player. They are practically untradeable.
- PhillySportsGuy

I guess if you think that the Flyers should use the regular season like it was training camp and not the pre season, then I guess they are unwilling to "embrace" a rebuilding season. What I think it really is, is the team is unwilling to do what you think they should do, and therefore, are unwilling to embrace the rebuild. It's December and the Flyers are only 6 points out of a playoff spot. Another thing I think that is a misconception, is that a team has to see a player at the NHL level to know if they're ready for the NHL, or if they can help the NHL team. Not always the case.
Umberger and Lecavalier are two players on the team.

I guess if you think that the Flyers should use the regular season like it was training camp and not the pre season, then I guess they are unwilling to "embrace" a rebuilding season. What I think it really is, is the team is unwilling to do what you think they should do, and therefore, are unwilling to embrace the rebuild. It's December and the Flyers are only 6 points out of a playoff spot. Another thing I think that is a misconception, is that a team has to see a player at the NHL level to know if they're ready for the NHL, or if they can help the NHL team. Not always the case.
Umberger and Lecavalier are two players on the team.
- MJL

In NHL14, you can trade Lecavalier, Luke Schenn, and 2 1sts for Shea Weber. True story.

In NHL14, you can trade Lecavalier, Luke Schenn, and 2 1sts for Shea Weber. True story.
- jmatchett383

Fire Hextall Now

Apparently there are no deals available for VL

So now we have 2 No and 2 Yes on a VL for Clarkson trade, interesting.
- coffee junkie

if we take on clarkson though what was the point of trading hartnell

I guess if you think that the Flyers should use the regular season like it was training camp and not the pre season, then I guess they are unwilling to "embrace" a rebuilding season. What I think it really is, is the team is unwilling to do what you think they should do, and therefore, are unwilling to embrace the rebuild. It's December and the Flyers are only 6 points out of a playoff spot. Another thing I think that is a misconception, is that a team has to see a player at the NHL level to know if they're ready for the NHL, or if they can help the NHL team. Not always the case.
Umberger and Lecavalier are two players on the team.
- MJL

honestly how the hell is a fourth line with zac, pmb and vandekemp better then a fourth line with rj, vl and akeson, seriously? answer is....its not.

I wouldn't do it either. If it was the same term, maybe.
- Jsaquella

I'd only do it if the Leafs are eating at least 25% of Clarkson's $$ and cap hit

I think the underlying problem is that the team is unwilling to embrace a rebuilding season. It would do the team so much good if they just sacrificed the season in order to evaluate the talent on the team and cleared some salary.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm thinking it'll be a ninja rebuild... too much dead weight locked in for a hard reset, so they'll have to settle on a tactical, prolonged dismantling/reassembly. That's Hexy's side, anyway.

Chief... he's just trying to keep his job. The usage patterns are more a symptom of that, I feel, than anything to do w/ the implementation of The Plan.

Chief... he's just trying to keep his job. The usage patterns are more a symptom of that, I feel, than anything to do w/ the implementation of The Plan.
- Tomahawk

If Couturier was at 43% ES OZ starts like last season that would be acceptable, but to have him down at 36% is just Berube trying to cling to his job rather than develop our young talent.

The sooner Hextall gets his own guy in here as coach on a multi-year deal, the better. Also, I have to admit anyone who wanted us to sign Maholtra as the 4C were correct. He would have been an upgrade on Hall and allowed Bellemare to play LW on the 4th line, or maybe move up the lineup.

Rick Tocchet
- jmatchett383

I was at that game. It was like 1987 all over again, with Tocchet and Stevens throwing hands.

I think the underlying problem is that the team is unwilling to embrace a rebuilding season. It would do the team so much good if they just sacrificed the season in order to evaluate the talent on the team and cleared some salary.

I'm not saying the team should tank, but if they believe Couts should be a 2nd line center, they should put him in that role and allow him to get second line type shifts.

If they think Laughton has shutdown center ability, they should throw him out against some top lines or in the defensive zone.

Perhaps, they get a good look at guys like Akeson, Straka and Leier to see if they're part of the future.

What good does it do this team to continually play vets on a bad team. No amount of window dressing is going to make Umberger or VL into a viable player. They are practically untradeable.
- PhillySportsGuy

Does Laughton give the impression of a player going back to Lehigh Valley?

Not to me, he doesn't.

Someone's gonna have to die or get injured for Vinny to get back in there.

if we take on clarkson though what was the point of trading hartnell
- 2Real

I am firmly in the camp, and was at the time, that the trade had no point- it was/is terrible. So don't ask me.

I also said no to this trade idea for the record. Now it is 4-2 No assuming 2 real is a NO.

Also, I have to admit anyone who wanted us to sign Maholtra as the 4C were correct. He would have been an upgrade on Hall and allowed Bellemare to play LW on the 4th line, or maybe move up the lineup.
- Feanor

Just sayin' -- there's ways to make this team better that won't break the bank

Just read the Lecavalier feature. Feel bad for him in the regard that he truly doesn't know where his game is right now

Could he help another team? Maybe. I do think he can still make offensive plays. But with where the Flyers are and how they have to play, I just don't think Chief can put him back in the lineup