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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:26 PM ET
I'll comment how I please, and if I want to comment on one part of a post, that is also my right. And you completely missed the point.

With that being said, the best way to build a team, especially with the defense is to have continuity. Not bargain shopping ever year. More times then not, you get what you pay for. And if Del Zotto has a strong season, he'll have to get paid anyway. That's the points that you missed.
Everybody wants good players, but doesn't want to pay for them.

- MJL

I didnt miss any point. I would rather have Del Zotto types on one year deals than 6 years of an Andrew MacDonald type because we are desperate.

Its signing deals like that that have us in this mess in the first place..

It wont be bargain shopping every year if you are able to free yourself from this terrible pattern of over-paying for players who are not significantly better than other available options.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 2:26 PM ET

- PLindbergh31

That about sums it up.....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
Best dude

http://www.philly.com/phi...for-reckless-driving.html

When asked why he was driving so fast, Werth reportedly replied, "Pressing my luck."
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
I didnt miss any point. I would rather have Del Zotto types on one year deals than 6 years of an Andrew MacDonald type because we are desperate.

Its signing deals like that that have us in this mess in the first place..

It wont be bargain shopping every year if you are able to free yourself from this terrible pattern of over-paying for players who are not significantly better than other available options.

- jak521


At least Holmgren didn't give up assets for the right to overpay MacDonald.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
He's very punctual.
- jmatchett383


He's obviously impervious to injury, too...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 5 @ 2:30 PM ET
He's obviously impervious to injury, too...
- WarriorHockey21


Made of adamantium
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 5 @ 2:30 PM ET
I have hit a new low and posted my thoughts on the Star Wars trailer in Ek's blog.

- FlyersGrace


That'll probably never wash off...

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 5 @ 2:31 PM ET
NEW BLIND GUARDIAN ALBUM!
- jmatchett383


BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:33 PM ET
One flight down, one to go. Anything doing?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 5 @ 2:34 PM ET
At least Holmgren didn't give up assets for the right to overpay MacDonald.
- PLindbergh31


Matt Mangene, a third-round pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, and a second-round pick in the 2015 NHL Entry Draft.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 5 @ 2:36 PM ET
One flight down, one to go. Anything doing?
- BiggE


Debating whether or not to leave early.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:36 PM ET
At least Holmgren didn't give up assets for the right to overpay MacDonald.
- PLindbergh31

That is part of my point..

Why trade a second rounder or whatever the hell he traded if you are gonna sign him at FA rate anyhow? Thats the poop that drives me nuts. Then he comes in, plays meh hockey... puts up meh numbers, and signs a 6 year 30 mil extension.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Dec 5 @ 2:36 PM ET
With Laughton playing so well, you have to keep giving him the minutes he's getting but you really can't keep Lecavalier scratched when your paying him that much money. You could play Lecavalier lower down in the line up but if he is going to have any chance to be effective at all you actually need to give him minutes. Tough decisions for Berube.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:37 PM ET
Matt Mangene, a third-round pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, and a second-round pick in the 2015 NHL Entry Draft.
- 77rams

Which is looking more and more like an early 2nd round pick in a very exciting draft class..

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 5 @ 2:39 PM ET
That is part of my point..

Why trade a second rounder or whatever the hell he traded if you are gonna sign him at FA rate anyhow? Thats the poop that drives me nuts. Then he comes in, plays meh hockey... puts up meh numbers, and signs a 6 year 30 mil extension.

- jak521


They didn't trade for him in the offseason, they acquired him near the TDL last year. They wanted him for the regular season and playoffs.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 2:40 PM ET
They didn't trade for him in the offseason, they acquired him near the TDL last year. They wanted him for the regular season and playoffs.
- jmatchett383

Do you even think the Flyers scouted him?? Apparently he has always been like this...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 5 @ 2:42 PM ET
That is part of my point..

Why trade a second rounder or whatever the hell he traded if you are gonna sign him at FA rate anyhow? Thats the poop that drives me nuts. Then he comes in, plays meh hockey... puts up meh numbers, and signs a 6 year 30 mil extension.

- jak521


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:43 PM ET
With Laughton playing so well, you have to keep giving him the minutes he's getting but you really can't keep Lecavalier scratched when your paying him that much money. You could play Lecavalier lower down in the line up but if he is going to have any chance to be effective at all you actually need to give him minutes. Tough decisions for Berube.
- FreshFlyer


Keep Wheels as far away from the locker-room as you can.

Give him some quarters with his life-alert and send him to the casino on game days.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 5 @ 2:45 PM ET
Do you even think the Flyers scouted him?? Apparently he has always been like this...
- GOA88


They probably did, but then again it's also the same pro scouting dept that signed off on Bryz, Kubina, Gill, Vinny, Umberger, etc, so....
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 5 @ 2:46 PM ET

- Tomahawk

77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 5 @ 2:47 PM ET
With Laughton playing so well, you have to keep giving him the minutes he's getting but you really can't keep Lecavalier scratched when your paying him that much money. You could play Lecavalier lower down in the line up but if he is going to have any chance to be effective at all you actually need to give him minutes. Tough decisions for Berube.
- FreshFlyer


I never could understand that line of thinking.

You play the best players available to give you the best chance of winning regardless of salary. The GM (or ex-GM in this instance) won't be happy campers because it really shines a bright light on the bad signing.

Any coach worth his salt would resist the pressure to keep sending him out there and do what Berube is doing.

The only downside is it doesn't give VLC an opportunity salvage his game and further decreases the chance of moving him to greener pastures. Maybe the embarrassment of sitting for the first time in his career jump starts something.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Matt Mangene, a third-round pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, and a second-round pick in the 2015 NHL Entry Draft.
- 77rams


Other then that, he didn't give up anything.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 5 @ 2:48 PM ET
Which is looking more and more like an early 2nd round pick in a very exciting draft class..
- jak521


Second rounders are overrated.

Ask Homer.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 5 @ 2:49 PM ET
Looks like Coyotes are going into sell mode.

How about picking up Chipchura and waiving VDV.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:49 PM ET

- Tomahawk


HAHAHAHA!
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