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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:32 AM ET


Can't wait to see what you post when Corpseburger gets scratched!

- 3flyerkids



That will be my reaction!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
You think Hextall has given permission to Vinny's agent to find a deal. Pretty much like

" Vinny, you have a NMC, so you either go find a deal and be willing to waive it or get comfortable with less minutes"

- J35Bacher

he really doesnt care, still getting paid
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
You think Hextall has given permission to Vinny's agent to find a deal. Pretty much like

" Vinny, you have a NMC, so you either go find a deal and be willing to waive it or get comfortable with less minutes"

- J35Bacher


Didn't they already give him permission to do that over the summer?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
he really doesnt care, still getting paid
- vejim


By two teams, no less.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
Didn't they already give him permission over the summer?
- Tomahawk


They did, Hexy told him to find a deal.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
So, VLC is benched...one down and one to go.
- BiggE

dang, Berube really showing he has a pair lately with these big money scratches
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:33 AM ET


That will be my reaction!

- BiggE

I bet some of those smiley faces are faster than some of the flyer players
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
You think Hextall has given permission to Vinny's agent to find a deal. Pretty much like

" Vinny, you have a NMC, so you either go find a deal and be willing to waive it or get comfortable with less minutes"

- J35Bacher

You almost have to do that if you are a competent GM.

Vinny has to understand that his play alone does not merit a spot on the top PP or on a scoring line.

Vinny has to understand that he hasnt been a really good player since Giroux got a two game emergency call up. That was 7 years ago.

Vinny has to understand that his female doging and whining is literally the opposite of what will get him what he wants. Shut up and produce, you get playing time. Whining and not producing, 4th line minutes.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20141202_Flyers_bench_struggling_Lecavalier_for_game_against_Sharks.html

Finally.

- Jsaquella


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
So, VLC is benched...one down and one to go.
- BiggE


Ryan Bright ‏@philabright 1h1 hour ago
Paul Holmgren gave 11 yrs, $52.5m to 2 players the Flyers now believe actively hurt the team’s chances to win while in the lineup.

One by one Holmgren's albatrosses are sitting in the press box.

The thing is Umberger, VDV, and Rinaldo aren't NHL players. So still a ton of dead wood.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:37 AM ET
Ryan Bright ‏@philabright 1h1 hour ago
Paul Holmgren gave 11 yrs, $52.5m to 2 players the Flyers now believe actively hurt the team’s chances to win while in the lineup.

One by one Holmgren's albatrosses are sitting in the press box.

The thing is Umberger, VDV, and Rinaldo aren't NHL players. So still a ton of dead wood.

- PLindbergh31

yeah but ESPN had a poll that didn't like Mason
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:37 AM ET
yeah but ESPN had a poll that didn't like Mason
- BulliesPhan87


That damned Ray Ferraro!
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:39 AM ET
Maybe he'll waive his NTC to get out to Edmonton with his buddy Umberger.
- johndewar



Fixed
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:41 AM ET
yeah but ESPN had a poll that didn't like Mason
- BulliesPhan87



lol, #WideBrushPainting
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:41 AM ET
Nitpicking, but they did briefly lead during the last game.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
They could scratch all the dead weight they want, which is being handed out deservedly but that wont make this team any better. Sharks 5 Flyers 1. VDV and Umberger are still playing and Rinaldo is on the 3rd line.....
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
Rinaldo isn't the only issue and he's a very minor one. I understand why people get irked about him, though. He doesn't bring enough, IMO, to offset the negatives. But he's small potatoes in the area of what is really plaguing the team.
- Jsaquella



Agreed, to me it is a much bigger problem that Couturier, Read and Simmonds are black holes right now.
It's a much bigger issue that Vl and Umby are useless.
It's a much bigger issue that the D has glaring holes.
It's a much bigger issue that this is team has 1 player that plays a phsyical game though Simmonds and B. Schenn can play that way.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:46 AM ET
Ryan Bright ‏@philabright 1h1 hour ago
Paul Holmgren gave 11 yrs, $52.5m to 2 players the Flyers now believe actively hurt the team’s chances to win while in the lineup.

One by one Holmgren's albatrosses are sitting in the press box.

The thing is Umberger, VDV, and Rinaldo aren't NHL players. So still a ton of dead wood.

- PLindbergh31


But Snider doesn't think the Flyers have a cap problem
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
He's playing cause he's been better than Vinny.
- Feanor



Agreed. What we're seeing here is changes made around the quarter pole of the season. Coaches are going to give veteran players that benefit of the doubt, and that amount of time to get their act together. I would expect Umberger's icetime to be reduced, and possibly even scratched at some point in the near future. But in order for that to happen, there has to be better options available sometimes.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
But Snider doesn't think the Flyers have a cap problem
- TheGreat28


Easy Ed is in his 80's now. He's lost his fastball.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:47 AM ET
Ryan Bright ‏@philabright 1h1 hour ago
Paul Holmgren gave 11 yrs, $52.5m to 2 players the Flyers now believe actively hurt the team’s chances to win while in the lineup.

One by one Holmgren's albatrosses are sitting in the press box.

The thing is Umberger, VDV, and Rinaldo aren't NHL players. So still a ton of dead wood.

- PLindbergh31


Which 2 players have those 11 years/$52.5M given to them by Holmgren that are hurting the team's chances to win right now?
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
Looking at you, Zomberger.....


- johndewar


The resemblance is remarkable to #18
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:48 AM ET
Which 2 players have those 11 years/$52.5M given to them by Holmgren that are hurting the team's chances to win right now?
- jmatchett383


I would guess VLC and Ronald MacDonald.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
Couturier gets Rinaldo and a slumping Read as wingers and will be buried in DZone starts against the West's top lines. That should help get him going offensively on this road trip.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:50 AM ET
Couturier gets Rinaldo and a slumping Read as wingers and will be buried in DZone starts against the West's top lines. That should help get him going offensively on this road trip.
- Feanor


Makes sense.
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