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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:31 PM ET
He wasn't.

Streit and Grossmann were awful all weekend. Schultz's carriage has clearly turned back into a pumpkin. Coburn was still in his Delorean, revisiting '12-13.

The only other guy who didn't look like complete poop was Luke Schenn, who had himself a good game on Sat, by his standards.

- Tomahawk


Some days, you just have to laugh, man

I'm as big a fan of Coburn as they come, but if Del Zotto wasn't horrific on Saturday, then this makes no sense, because Del Zotto's been equal to or better than Coburn in every single game they've played
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:31 PM ET
Which means Schenn met the "you must be this tall to ride" requirements.
NICE!

- FlyersGrace



Haha, pretty much.

No tragic (frank)-ups = good game.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:32 PM ET
You guys signed amac on april 15th I believe... so no one else could talk to him, hence no one else bid against you.
- Isles_since_6

Why couldnt you guys have locked him up before hand
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:32 PM ET
We would like to be impressed by Berube benching high priced veterans who had bad games.

But then he also benches Bellemare and now, apparently Del Zotto, so we have to assume he's just doing it at random.

- Feanor


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
Breaking News..

Craig Berube will continue to scratch a different forward/defender combo each game until the Flyers win.

Jack Craig Adams

- jak521


More like Don Adams
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
I watched most of it and he didn't stand out as having a bad game.

I think they should just play 7 D and sit VdV. The guy is -7 in 115 pretty easy ES minutes, but Berube loves him for some reason.

- Feanor


Nowadays, how the coaches decide who plays.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
You guys signed amac on april 15th I believe... so no one else could talk to him, hence no one else bid against you.
- Isles_since_6


We were talking about Vinny.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
Why couldnt you guys have locked him up before hand
- jak521

hey, I almost had a heart attack when I heard snow offered him 16 mil over 4 years lol
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:34 PM ET
I really have no clue as to why MDZ is being scratched.

Schultz has been pretty abysmal for the past 3 weeks.
Streit... ah forget it.

*throws poop at wall.. doesnt stick.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:34 PM ET
We were talking about Vinny.
- Feanor

ah gotcha, my mistake
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:34 PM ET
MacDonald, Streit, and Coburn all have good mobility. I don't like it either, but I understand it.
- MJL

I dunno about Streit

He is the PP quarterback and good with the puck, but end to end skating, I think he is average

If they are taking out MDZ, Coburn and MacD really have to get some shots through to the net
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:35 PM ET
I watched most of it and he didn't stand out as having a bad game.

I think they should just play 7 D and sit VdV. The guy is -7 in 115 pretty easy ES minutes, but Berube loves him for some reason.

- Feanor

Its beyond infuriating
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:36 PM ET
I really have no clue as to why MDZ is being scratched.

Schultz has been pretty abysmal for the past 3 weeks.
Streit... ah forget it.

*throws poop at wall.. doesnt stick.

- jak521

Berube's plan is to play 4 corners
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 2 @ 3:36 PM ET
Its beyond infuriating
- jak521

Maybe Umberger shared his blackmail material with him?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:38 PM ET
Some days, you just have to laugh, man

I'm as big a fan of Coburn as they come, but if Del Zotto wasn't horrific on Saturday, then this makes no sense, because Del Zotto's been equal to or better than Coburn in every single game they've played

- AllInForFlyers


Dementia is a symptom of repeated brain trauma.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
I just took a step back and realized just how depressing it is to read all the comments about how bad each and every player on the Flyers are. What have things come to in Flyerland??
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
Dementia is a symptom of repeated brain trauma.
- Tomahawk

as we have experienced from the years of Homer
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 2 @ 3:40 PM ET
I really have no clue as to why MDZ is being scratched.

Schultz has been pretty abysmal for the past 3 weeks.
Streit... ah forget it.

*throws poop at wall.. doesnt stick.

- jak521




Shultz has come back to earth.

I think Del Zotto has probably been one of the better defenders. He started slow but has been pretty reliable since then. All this speculation that Berube is an idiot for scratching him and maybe he is just sick or hurt.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:42 PM ET
Dementia is a symptom of repeated brain trauma.
- Tomahawk


I get it -- Del Zotto's on a one-year, and he doesn't make much, and MacDonald's in the first year of a six-year deal. And everybody else except Schultz is on a multi-year contract

So, I'm not stupid. I get it. If that's how they want to play it, I get it

But it's unfortunate, because Del Zotto's been, at worst, their second-best defenseman this year. Maybe that makes him one of the tallest midgets, but the whole point of this thing has to be scratching players who can't play, not the players who have been performing
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:43 PM ET
Looks like McGinn's playing basically the same role he had here. Healthy scratch, spot start on the top line. Still pleasantly surprised Hextall managed to grab a third rounder for him. It'll look even better if the Sharks continue to go in the wrong direction.
- TobyFlenderson

Just think, with a bit of luck that 3rd round draft pick can get another Gostisbehere or Barrie or Henrique. We're quite a few years away from seeing the results but it'd still be great to see.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 2 @ 3:44 PM ET
as we have experienced from the years of Homer
- vejim


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia_pugilistica
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:44 PM ET
I get it -- Del Zotto's on a one-year, and he doesn't make much, and MacDonald's in the first year of a six-year deal. And everybody else except Schultz is on a multi-year contract

So, I'm not stupid. I get it. If that's how they want to play it, I get it

But it's unfortunate, because Del Zotto's been, at worst, their second-best defenseman this year. Maybe that makes him one of the tallest midgets, but the whole point of this thing has to be scratching players who can't play, not the players who have been performing

- AllInForFlyers

this is all according to Hexy's master plan, the fix is in

(credit to MOAT)

I am now a believer
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:44 PM ET
I get it -- Del Zotto's on a one-year, and he doesn't make much, and MacDonald's in the first year of a six-year deal. And everybody else except Schultz is on a multi-year contract

So, I'm not stupid. I get it. If that's how they want to play it, I get it

But it's unfortunate, because Del Zotto's been, at worst, their second-best defenseman this year. Maybe that makes him one of the tallest midgets, but the whole point of this thing has to be scratching players who can't play, not the players who have been performing

- AllInForFlyers

No matter how good Del Zotto has been or can be it will be overshadowed because everyone around him is in quicksand. I know this sounds bold but even Shea Weber would struggle with this team right now. Just not as much.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:45 PM ET
I just took a step back and realized just how depressing it is to read all the comments about how bad each and every player on the Flyers are. What have things come to in Flyerland??
- GOA88


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:45 PM ET
Because maybe you're saying, "We have Ghost and Hagg and Morin, and we're simply not interested in going long-term with Del Zotto. So we need to further evaluate the other players we have under contract beyond this year"

That's fine, if that's what they're doing. I understand that

If they are, though, hope they move Del Zotto soon for an asset who is a forward, selling high, because no way did he not prove that he's an NHL player, potentially a borderline Top 4, when he was eating all those minutes and the Flyers were actually winning hockey games
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