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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
Did Ferraro say that?
- BulliesPhan87


Once I saw Doughty ahead of AMac on the list, I completely disregarded it.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Dec 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
No. ESPN's wonderful columnists and personalities did
- PhillySportsGuy


They recently did the Top 25 best players and Buccigross, who is relatively knowledgeable about hockey, said of Giroux "not point per game player in the regular season" although he's been over a point per game the last 4 years and has a career 0.92 PPG average. Now there is no one left to trust about hockey at ESPN.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
So what would you need to get from SJ to trade Couturier as Ek suggested? I see some people are all ready to ship Couturier out because he has no offensive game, too slow should be moved no before he gets older.

People female dog about the Sharp trade still and yet they still want to move Couturier. Seems like same things were said about Sharp.

- J35Bacher

Vlasic for Couts if they take Lacavalier too.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
It would definitely have to involve Pavelski or Couture... which SJ won't do.
- WarriorHockey21

I'm not interested in Pavelski at the age of 30. Not really sold on Hertl and Couture isnt going anywhere.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:42 PM ET
They recently did the Top 25 best players and Buccigross, who is relatively knowledgeable about hockey, said of Giroux "not point per game player in the regular season" although he's been over a point per game the last 4 years and has a career 0.92 PPG average. Now there is no one left to trust about hockey at ESPN.
- NickTheKid87


They had voracek ranked 11 spots behind Simmonds. These people know nothing. Ferraro is pretty well respected and has his pulse on things around the league.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
Vlasic for Couts if they take Lacavalier too.
- Marc D

I think they'd much rather move Thornton or Marleau
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
Once I saw Doughty ahead of AMac on the list, I completely disregarded it.
- PLindbergh31


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 2:45 PM ET
They had voracek ranked 11 spots behind Simmonds. These people know nothing. Ferraro is pretty well respected and has his pulse on things around the league.
- PhillySportsGuy


Media types like Ferraro exercise their own agenda. Right now the Flyers are the weakling that's easy to pick on.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 1 @ 2:46 PM ET
Any way you can make a move sending Vinny to SJ for Thorton or Marleau. Same length in deal but SJ would save moeny on cap.

Anyone think SJ would get desperate to move one of them?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:46 PM ET
They had voracek ranked 11 spots behind Simmonds. These people know nothing. Ferraro is pretty well respected and has his pulse on things around the league.
- PhillySportsGuy


Ferraro is basically saying Boychuk is better than MacDonald. It's not really a controversial statement. The Islanders really benefited from the Bruins cap crunch.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
Ferraro is basically saying Boychuk is better than MacDonald. It's not really a controversial statement. The Islanders really benefited from the Bruins cap crunch.
- Feanor



And Chicago's because Leddy has looked good too.

Maybe we can get Saad. He will be a RFA after this season and Toews and Kane's new deals kick in.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
Ferraro is basically saying Boychuk is better than MacDonald. It's not really a controversial statement. The Islanders really benefited from the Bruins cap crunch.
- Feanor

Boychuk is not even close to being the reason the Isles are where they are.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
Ferraro is basically saying Boychuk is better than MacDonald. It's not really a controversial statement. The Islanders really benefited from the Bruins cap crunch.
- Feanor



I agree that Boychuk is better then MacDonald. But the statement is really uneccessary. May not be controversial, but it certainly is petty.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
Ferraro is pretty well respected and has his pulse on things around the league.
- PhillySportsGuy


He's generally considered the best analyst working TV... but he's not exactly surrounded by stiff competition for that title.

Loved what he said about the Vinny sweeps last year.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
Any way you can make a move sending Vinny to SJ for Thorton or Marleau. Same length in deal but SJ would save moeny on cap.

Anyone think SJ would get desperate to move one of them?

- J35Bacher

The day that SJ trades Marleau or Thornton for Lecavalier is the day I ask Hextall for his hand in marriage.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
And Chicago's because Leddy has looked good too.

Maybe we can get Saad. He will be a RFA after this season and Toews and Kane's new deals kick in.

- J35Bacher


i think he is a heck of a young player.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
I think they'd much rather move Thornton or Marleau
- PhillySportsGuy

well they can have their pick of RJ or Vinnie for those guys
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
He's generally considered the best analyst working TV... but he's not exactly surrounded by stiff competition for that title.

Loved what he said about the Vinny sweeps last year.

- Tomahawk


Yeah. He knows what he's talking about though. This isn't Barry Melrose or some poop
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
Boychuk is not even close to being the reason the Isles are where they are.
- GOA88


Yeah, outside of being their top scoring defenseman, leader in TOI among defensemen and playing a big role on special teams Boychuk has zip to do with the Isles place at the top of the division
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Boychuk is not even close to being the reason the Isles are where they are.
- GOA88


He's one of the reasons. Stabilized their defense.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Yeah, outside of being their top scoring defenseman, leader in TOI among defensemen and playing a big role on special teams Boychuk has zip to do with the Isles place at the top of the division
- Jsaquella

Inflated stats. Boychuk is about as good as Coburn. Maybe. Thats not saying much
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Yeah, outside of being their top scoring defenseman, leader in TOI among defensemen and playing a big role on special teams Boychuk has zip to do with the Isles place at the top of the division
- Jsaquella


He'd be our #1 dman here hahah
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Which one of Holmgren's albatrosses will come up on the old Wheel o healthy scratch tomorrow night?

1. Ronald MacDonald
2. Luke Sloth
3. Vinny Lecadavier.

Is their a coffin in the press box with RJ's name on it?

Exciting times, lots to look forward to. Tune in tomorrow night.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
He'd be our #1 dman here hahah
- Hextall271

Thats not saying much. I doubt Boychuk could stabilize our defensemen. Highly doubt it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
Inflated stats. Boychuk is about as good as Coburn. Maybe. Thats not saying much
- GOA88


Except one is one of the top defensemen on a team that has the most points in the NHL and the other is the top defenseman on a team that is 1 point ahead of the Sabres.
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