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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 30 @ 1:34 AM ET
agreed. if they had ~ another $925k in cap space ( ), they should be able to make it work.
- isaiah520


That's what I'm talkin' 'bout, Willis!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Nov 30 @ 1:41 AM ET
That's what I'm talkin' 'bout, Willis!
- AllInForFlyers

really, VL/RJ should be like Pleasantville. evrybody else in color and those two in black and white. they're trying, but it's over, so move on any way possible.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Nov 30 @ 1:47 AM ET
Bill did you??

Did anyone else see in the 3rd period, down 4-2, and the 2nd line got Lundquist to freeze it, then berube changed lines, and before the drop, berube looked like he was yelling at Simmonds on the bench, and Simmonds shook his head and waived him off (basically F U coach)? I was at the game and saw it very clearly, but not sure if it was caught on TV.

- CACannon18


Looks like no one saw it dude. No need to post this a fourth time for (frank)'s sake.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Nov 30 @ 1:55 AM ET
They need something to snap them out of this funk - perhaps a classic line brawl like the one against Ottawa, or the one many moons back in Vancouver which gave birth to the Broad Street Bullies. Not to re-create that style of play, but to rally the team around each other and for them to begin to play with a chip on their shoulders again.

They're like watching The Walking Dead.

Hell, If Pat Quinn could coax career years out of Bathe, Busniak, and Barnes, a roll the team to it's 35 game unbeaten streak, certainly this crew could put up at least respectable numbers.

- 77rams


Right there with ya. Last year it was Emery tuning up that goalie from DC. People criticized that but it sure lit a fir uner the team's ass. Somebody needs to step up the emotional game. I thought they would send a message yesterday when they were getting shut out...let the rags know they would not lie down...but hell, it looks like they had their cots shipped up to MSG right after the shutout.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:02 AM ET
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Nov 30 @ 2:04 AM ET
Just an FYI - over the last 9 games, Hartnell has 0 points and is a -5.

No real point to it, just that he's in one of his 'stalled' periods.

- tangent_man


His stalled periods are apparently shorter than Umberger's stalled career.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:09 AM ET

- flyer_nutter



If you throw lemon juice on it, it says - Vinny sucks and we suck and Umberger sucks and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. And, oh yeah, our defensive corps
is like the gel in a gefilte fish jar.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 30 @ 2:55 AM ET
I can't answer if the Flyers would be willing. But I wouldn't make that deal.
- MJL


Boedker is twice the player Matt Read is and the Yotes are certainly not interested in Read, actually I don't even think the Yotes are looking to trade #89 Boedker. Just an EK rumor on a quiet day.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Nov 30 @ 3:01 AM ET
I just hate the way Lecavalier doesn't even make an effort. Umberger just isn't good at hockey anymore, but he does try for the most part. Lecavalier looks like he doesn't give a poop anymore
- PhillySportsGuy


Totally agree, they both need to be scratched or better yet sent home. They are not good for team morale. This is the softest flyer team of all time right now and tough guy Berube really looks like he has lost this group. Simmonds is playing like crap right now and he should be packaged along with one of Vinny or Umberger for a player that has a pulse. This may be the only way to move these culls.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 30 @ 3:11 AM ET

- flyer_nutter

Well that should put a stop to any free agents wanting to come here.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 30 @ 3:11 AM ET
Boedker is twice the player Matt Read is and the Yotes are certainly not interested in Read, actually I don't even think the Yotes are looking to trade #89 Boedker. Just an EK rumor on a quiet day.
- flyerdude17

Pretty much
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Nov 30 @ 7:30 AM ET
Looks like the stink in the organization goes all the way down to the ECHL, as the goalie who didnt get called up to the Phantoms seems to be purposely playing like Jeff Hackett (positional vertigo retirement) and Bryzaster combined and the team was systemically dysfunctional last night. The only thing missing are the strange quotes from a Russian point of view.

What is the definition of doing the same thing over and over it doesnt work...........
At multiple levels

The Greenville team is a Rangers affiliate- same system perhaps ??
8-3 last night in Reading
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Nov 30 @ 7:32 AM ET
Well that should put a stop to any free agents wanting to come here.
- hereticpride


Unless they are grossly overpaid and at the end of their careers stars from other teams looking for a handout or useless former flyers
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 30 @ 7:36 AM ET
Fishsticks rid themselves of that sack of poop MacDonald and find themselves at the top of the NHL. Just a coincidence!

Flyers now 1 point ahead of Sabres. Embarrassing.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 30 @ 7:38 AM ET
Looks like the stink in the organization goes all the way down to the ECHL, as the goalie who didnt get called up to the Phantoms seems to be purposely playing like Jeff Hackett (positional vertigo retirement) and Bryzaster combined and the team was systemically dysfunctional last night. The only thing missing are the strange quotes from a Russian point of view.

What is the definition of doing the same thing over and over it doesnt work...........
At multiple levels

The Greenville team is a Rangers affiliate- same system perhaps ??
8-3 last night in Reading

- Steelmanpa


Holmgren has built up the prospect pool tremendously. Lower levels are stocked with talent.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 30 @ 7:59 AM ET
did Berube get a contract extension?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 30 @ 8:04 AM ET
If it happens, it'll be in the final two years that Hexy was looking to get rid of. Can't even say that he'll still be in Columbus at that point.
- tangent_man


Watch Columbus flip him for a 2nd round pick next summer.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 30 @ 8:05 AM ET
At least the Phantoms won tonight.
- Jsaquella


The Rosehill fight really got them going
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 30 @ 8:27 AM ET
Fishsticks rid themselves of that sack of poop MacDonald and find themselves at the top of the NHL. Just a coincidence!

Flyers now 1 point ahead of Sabres. Embarrassing.

- PLindbergh31


If there's one thing we can all take away from these past couple of summers is... you get less from poaching 'top players' from bad teams than poaching depth players from top teams. Those 'top players' probably had a hand in why those teams were terrible in the first place.

Streit, AMac <<<<<< Leddy, Boychuk
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 30 @ 8:28 AM ET
Boedker is twice the player Matt Read is and the Yotes are certainly not interested in Read, actually I don't even think the Yotes are looking to trade #89 Boedker. Just an EK rumor on a quiet day.
- flyerdude17


I'd trade Read for Boedker 9-days a week and twelve times on Sunday.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 30 @ 8:31 AM ET
If there's one thing we can all take away from these past couple of summers is... you get less from poaching 'top players' from bad teams than poaching depth players from top teams. Those 'top players' probably had a hand in why those teams were terrible in the first place.

Streit, AMac <<<<<< Leddy, Boychuk

- Tomahawk


Yes sir. Islanders are a very good young team. Having that cap room to add Boychuk and Leddy was huge.

L Schenn, VL, and AMac. The Holmgren trifecta.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 30 @ 8:36 AM ET
If there's one thing we can all take away from these past couple of summers is... you get less from poaching 'top players' from bad teams than poaching depth players from top teams. Those 'top players' probably had a hand in why those teams were terrible in the first place.

Streit, AMac <<<<<< Leddy, Boychuk

- Tomahawk


Thats not always the case. Teams just shouldn't rely on other teams to do their scouting for them. They can't just assume a top pairing defenseman on another team is a great player.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 30 @ 8:52 AM ET
Fishsticks rid themselves of that sack of poop MacDonald and find themselves at the top of the NHL. Just a coincidence!

Flyers now 1 point ahead of Sabres. Embarrassing.

- PLindbergh31


Just look at it as; depraved for McDavid

Sorry, watching this piece of poop team has left me reeling...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 30 @ 8:54 AM ET
If there's one thing we can all take away from these past couple of summers is... you get less from poaching 'top players' from bad teams than poaching depth players from top teams. Those 'top players' probably had a hand in why those teams were terrible in the first place.

Streit, AMac <<<<<< Leddy, Boychuk

- Tomahawk


Yup

AMac is a model of consistency. Every team he has played for has consistently sucked!

But, hey, he is a TOP defenseman.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 30 @ 8:59 AM ET
Boedker is twice the player Matt Read is and the Yotes are certainly not interested in Read, actually I don't even think the Yotes are looking to trade #89 Boedker. Just an EK rumor on a quiet day.
- flyerdude17


You mean the guy who has never had a 20 goal season? The guy whose second best goal total in a full season is equal to Read's production during the lockout shortened season?

Boedkker is playing better, right now, no question. But Read has been a better and more productive player over the course of each player's career. I wouldn't go as far as saying Boedker is twice the player Read is
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