HopintheCordoba
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Personally, I like Tlusty. I think he could shine as a 3F option on a line with Malkin/Kunitz or Crosby/Hornquvist. Won't be successful as 'The Guy,' but would be a great as a contributory role player in the Penguins Top-6, kinda like Dupuis.
If he isn't a trade deadline acquisition, hope he gets some attention as a UFA this offseason. - s0rcerer1984
The CAR connection probably comes into play. This weekends "series" would seem to be a time to talk about that sort of thing. I don't buy JR's talk of laying low and taking in the games. |
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If brewer could fetch a 3rd, scuderi should be able to get something. IMO scuderi is better than brewer |
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HopintheCordoba
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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If brewer could fetch a 3rd, scuderi should be able to get something. IMO scuderi is better than brewer - drummer829
Also a slightly lower hit. But in this situation it's not so much a pick they're looking for obviously. He's more valuable to them playing unless they're getting a forward back. Hate to say that but it's true. Ducks probably don't care about throwing away what will be a late 3rd or close to early 4th. |
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nh4442
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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Also a slightly lower hit. But in this situation it's not so much a pick they're looking for obviously. He's more valuable to them playing unless they're getting a forward back. Hate to say that but it's true. Ducks probably don't care about throwing away what will be a late 3rd or close to early 4th. - HopintheCordoba
Plus tb retained 25% of cap hit.. but hey I would do that for scuds... scuds to buy for 3rd pick pens keep 25% of cap... |
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I agree with some of the posters here, I think trading Sutter would be a mistake. I think when you have a center who is one of the better 3rd line centers in the league, who can have spot duty on the top 2 lines if malkin or crosby gets hurt, who's young, plays a good two way game.
i think the main argument to trading Sutter shouldn't be that Goc can take over, i think it should be that he is signed this year and next year, but after that he is a UFA who is going to be looking to cash in, whether it'd be us or with someone else. based on what other guys have gotten, i wouldnt be surprised if he is discussed in the 4.5-5 million per year range. something i think the penguins should and walk away from.
i think when you look at perron you have a great option but at the same time he is going to have the same problem as his very generous deal at 3.8 million expires when Sutter's does. i think he would be a better guy to sign long term at a higher rate than Sutter but who knows.
it just depends on the direction you see this team going. i would like to hold on to sutter but at the same time sometimes the numbers just dont make sense beyond this season. |
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Brianandr1
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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The CAR connection probably comes into play. This weekends "series" would seem to be a time to talk about that sort of thing. I don't buy JR's talk of laying low and taking in the games. - HopintheCordoba
Pens will eventually make a deal ... However it probably won't be any of the names mentioned here... Sutter is going no where unless the guy coming back is named Kane or eberle (probably not happening) ... 50/50 chance of scuds being moved ... Still think he may be retained as a veteran presence for next year should martin and erhoff walk ... This won't be popular, but considering this is the highest scoring team in the league I think it's much more likely they add a "stemniak type" or two before the deadline... That scenario won't be sexy to many of you ... But probably the most likely |
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cygnus41
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Joined: 07.23.2012
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I agree with some of the posters here, I think trading Sutter would be a mistake. I think when you have a center who is one of the better 3rd line centers in the league, who can have spot duty on the top 2 lines if malkin or crosby gets hurt, who's young, plays a good two way game.
i think the main argument to trading Sutter shouldn't be that Goc can take over, i think it should be that he is signed this year and next year, but after that he is a UFA who is going to be looking to cash in, whether it'd be us or with someone else. based on what other guys have gotten, i wouldnt be surprised if he is discussed in the 4.5-5 million per year range. something i think the penguins should and walk away from.
i think when you look at perron you have a great option but at the same time he is going to have the same problem as his very generous deal at 3.8 million expires when Sutter's does. i think he would be a better guy to sign long term at a higher rate than Sutter but who knows.
it just depends on the direction you see this team going. i would like to hold on to sutter but at the same time sometimes the numbers just dont make sense beyond this season. - SuperHenderson13
We also have Sundqvist who looked just about ready this season. Really, I think the argument is that Perron will help our top 6 more than losing Sutter will hurt our bottom 6. The only thing I'd be worried about would be that with Duper out too, we've lost our two best penalty killers. So any move which removes Sutter will have to be followed by one which acquires someone that can anchor a PK unit, and not in the Craig Adams kind of way. |
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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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Oh man. That's 3rd rd pick was edm pick.. so basically a later 2nd rd pick... great deal by stevie...
I think if we trade sutter it is for a true top 6 guy amd then they plan on moving spaling to center 3rd line... leave goc on 4th.
I don't mind if they keep sutter, I like him it's just the Letang factor... can you get more to help the team..
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The realistic trade chips i see for the pens are: bortuzzo, one of dumoulin/harrington/samuelsoon, and late round picks.
The late round pick could be used to get a player that a team is really trying to get rid of but would serve as more of a depth player than anything else. e.g a 5th rd pick for tyler kennedy.
With depres playing really well, and pouliot ready to step in at any time, it would be a good time to trade bortuzzo to a team that isn't as deep on the back end and that can in return provide another role player. e.g bortuzzo to either avalanche for mcginn or to dallas for scevoir or to canes for tlusty.
Lastly, one of dumoulin/harrington/samuelsson could be flipped for a forward prospect that is buried on a team due to depth in the forward position. e.g dumoulin to either the blues for rattie or to the ducks for etem.
at the end, i would like to see the pens line up as something like this;
tlusty-crosby-hornqvist
Kunitz-malkin-etem/rattie
bennett-sutter-downie
spaling-goc-comeau
megna-adams-kennedy
martin-ehrhoff
letang-maatta
depres-scuderi
pouliot-harrington
fleury
greiss
let me know what you guys think |
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Brianandr1
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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The realistic trade chips i see for the pens are: bortuzzo, one of dumoulin/harrington/samuelsoon, and late round picks.
The late round pick could be used to get a player that a team is really trying to get rid of but would serve as more of a depth player than anything else. e.g a 5th rd pick for tyler kennedy.
With depres playing really well, and pouliot ready to step in at any time, it would be a good time to trade bortuzzo to a team that isn't as deep on the back end and that can in return provide another role player. e.g bortuzzo to either avalanche for mcginn or to dallas for scevoir or to canes for tlusty.
Lastly, one of dumoulin/harrington/samuelsson could be flipped for a forward prospect that is buried on a team due to depth in the forward position. e.g dumoulin to either the blues for rattie or to the ducks for etem.
at the end, i would like to see the pens line up as something like this;
tlusty-crosby-hornqvist
Kunitz-malkin-etem/rattie
bennett-sutter-downie
spaling-goc-comeau
megna-adams-kennedy
martin-ehrhoff
letang-maatta
depres-scuderi
pouliot-harrington
fleury
greiss
let me know what you guys think - Kunit
Don't think the blues have any intention of trading rattie... Especially for a d prospect considering how deep they are ... Etem is possible but the Ducks are a win now team ... Don't think they re looking for prospects
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sammy87
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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The realistic trade chips i see for the pens are: bortuzzo, one of dumoulin/harrington/samuelsoon, and late round picks.
The late round pick could be used to get a player that a team is really trying to get rid of but would serve as more of a depth player than anything else. e.g a 5th rd pick for tyler kennedy.
With depres playing really well, and pouliot ready to step in at any time, it would be a good time to trade bortuzzo to a team that isn't as deep on the back end and that can in return provide another role player. e.g bortuzzo to either avalanche for mcginn or to dallas for scevoir or to canes for tlusty.
Lastly, one of dumoulin/harrington/samuelsson could be flipped for a forward prospect that is buried on a team due to depth in the forward position. e.g dumoulin to either the blues for rattie or to the ducks for etem.
at the end, i would like to see the pens line up as something like this;
tlusty-crosby-hornqvist
Kunitz-malkin-etem/rattie
bennett-sutter-downie
spaling-goc-comeau
megna-adams-kennedy
martin-ehrhoff
letang-maatta
depres-scuderi
pouliot-harrington
fleury
greiss
let me know what you guys think - Kunit
Kennedy?
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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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You would think edm would want sutter if they give up eberle amd d if they give up perron... with perron it will be perron + for sutter but for eberle it could be sutter +
But if eberle goes yak stays and if yak goes eberle stays... but I think perron will go regardless and they try to get a winger back.. wonder if they like sill
As for e.kane I haven't even seen what peg would want... and you would think stl and ana would want an nhl ready dman for etem or rattie.
If GMJR could get e.kane and either eberle or yak my lines would be
Kane sid eberle
Kuni geno horn
Megna spaling comeau
Downie goc adams
Kane sid horn
Kuni geno yak
Megna spaling comeau
Downie goc adams
Now of course if BB is back he would go in where megna is and megna where adams is...
Grant it these lines will most likely never happen but it's fun to see what lines could look like |
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Kasian has been a bust in Vancouver, he may be available. Canucks are short on dmen prospects so Dumoulin could probably land Kasian.
The major problem with him in Vancouver is he doesnt shoot. Hes a good passer though, big man with some snarl, sounds a bit lazy though. Maybe a fit on Malkins wing, setting up Geno. |
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You would think edm would want sutter if they give up eberle amd d if they give up perron... with perron it will be perron + for sutter but for eberle it could be sutter +
But if eberle goes yak stays and if yak goes eberle stays... but I think perron will go regardless and they try to get a winger back.. wonder if they like sill
As for e.kane I haven't even seen what peg would want... and you would think stl and ana would want an nhl ready dman for etem or rattie.
If GMJR could get e.kane and either eberle or yak my lines would be
Kane sid eberle
Kuni geno horn
Megna spaling comeau
Downie goc adams
Kane sid horn
Kuni geno yak
Megna spaling comeau
Downie goc adams
Now of course if BB is back he would go in where megna is and megna where adams is...
Grant it these lines will most likely never happen but it's fun to see what lines could look like - nh4442
Now you're just being greedy! |
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nh4442
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Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA Joined: 05.28.2010
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Now you're just being greedy! - stackthepads
Hey pens have assets to do it and a gm who is only here for 2 yrs... He might go all in |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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Hey pens have assets to do it and a gm who is only here for 2 yrs... He might go all in - nh4442
That's adding 11mil to payroll. You would deplete all the prospects and picks and move Martin to make it work. Which he won't go to either and they wouldn't want a ufa either. He's not signing there. This isn't even worth responding to. |
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It's a good thing ward made that save because I'm pretty sure comeau shot that a little wide. Less embarrassing for him lol |
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HopintheCordoba
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Tlusty auditioning
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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Letangerang
Edit: close to interference but whatever. Free point for Spaling. |
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Kasian has been a bust in Vancouver, he may be available. Canucks are short on dmen prospects so Dumoulin could probably land Kasian.
The major problem with him in Vancouver is he doesnt shoot. Hes a good passer though, big man with some snarl, sounds a bit lazy though. Maybe a fit on Malkins wing, setting up Geno. - stackthepads
It would take Despres to get Kassian... |
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hardnosed
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Joined: 06.23.2008
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Tlusty auditioning
- HopintheCordoba
2-0 Penguins if we're counting present and future. |
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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It would take Despres to get Kassian... - RoloTahmasee
That seems ridiculous. We have plenty of kids that can play in the system. A pick wouldn't be tough to part with if it's not 1st or 2nd. Not sure I'd want Kassian but I can't see the Penguins throwing Despres out for him. He;s finally showing what we want to see. Because he's finally playing. |
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cap1681
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Location: Verona, PA Joined: 02.04.2010
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Don't compare the Brewer deal for what we could get for Scuderi. He is a FA at the end of the season. The extra years are what would hold back a Scuderi deal. |
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HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD Joined: 04.04.2012
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2-0 Penguins if we're counting present and future. - hardnosed
Nice. That was a sly goal. He's a decent player. Good worker. |
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shopping on Black Friday online is so much better than Black Friday shopping in person. |
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