The price would have to be a mason jar filled with farts and P Samuelsson or else I'm out. No way is worth anything more. He is just lazy and invisible.
- usethe1-2-2

\Look where he is playing..not much offense coming out of there. Dumoulin/samuelson and a pick I would take him no doubt. Look at how juicy was.. pretty much trash before he played with geno. Toss him with geno and kunitz or sid and horn.. lights out. Dumo won't get traded to carolina, he came from there. We would have to do something else for tlusty.

I know nothing of Tlutsy, I'm more familiar with Perron. I always forget Spaling can be the 4C. Would the Oilers be interested in Jarry as part of a deal? Still think Nino could be had for Martin +.

\Look where he is playing..not much offense coming out of there. Dumoulin/samuelson and a pick I would take him no doubt. Look at how juicy was.. pretty much trash before he played with geno. Toss him with geno and kunitz or sid and horn.. lights out. Dumo won't get traded to carolina, he came from there. We would have to do something else for tlusty.
- znagle

He isn't worth it. He is just not a good hockey player. He was fading fast in Colorado so they shipped him to the Blues where he vanished. I'd rather get Tlsuty.

Comeau?
- znagle

Sorry lol how could I forget about him.

Tlusty-Crosby-Hörnqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Fleischmann
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Spaling-Goc-Comeau

Assuming we trade Scuderi

Saw this on Yahoo Sports. Ranking every Black NHL Jersey for Black Friday. Guess who got #1?

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...ack-friday-171550037.html

Just to be clear, the enigmatic winger I was talking about was Stafford.

Stewart is a talented blob of uselessness. Then again, Buffalo is a life-sucking locale.

\Look where he is playing..not much offense coming out of there. Dumoulin/samuelson and a pick I would take him no doubt. Look at how juicy was.. pretty much trash before he played with geno. Toss him with geno and kunitz or sid and horn.. lights out. Dumo won't get traded to carolina, he came from there. We would have to do something else for tlusty.
- znagle

It was Rutherford that traded Dumoulin away.

I know nothing of Tlutsy, I'm more familiar with Perron. I always forget Spaling can be the 4C. Would the Oilers be interested in Jarry as part of a deal? Still think Nino could be had for Martin +.
- sammy87

I don't think the Wild are interested in moving NINO. Too good to ship away at this point. They will look for more cost effective D-men to help out if need be.

Oilers might like Jarry, but he is Pittsburgh's best Goalie prospect. Outside of him and Murray our system is horrible with goaltending. Doubt we would move him and I highly doubt he has the value to help bring in a Perron. He is a long ways out and the Oil wants to win now.

I really like the idea of Etem or Rattie for a prospect defensemen or Scuderi (if willing) and Tlusty. The others are plausible but none have made me feel comfortable yet.

I think you are closer to what I have been saying, although Perron is good he isn't trade Sutter good. You are not opposed to the trade of Sutter but it should be for someone more dynamic that Perron.

- usethe1-2-2

Perron is very dynamic. I just don't think that adding another guy who prefers to have lots of room to work is the right add to make if playoff success is the goal.

Perron is very dynamic. I just don't think that adding another guy who prefers to have lots of room to work is the right add to make if playoff success is the goal.
- hardnosed

That is why I want don't entertain Oshie or even Eberle trades. At least Stafford has size, even though he uses it maybe twice a game.

here is a perfect read and sums it up nicely

http://thehockeywriters.c...rs-a-perfect-combination/

Sums it up
"Best case scenario for Pittsburgh: They acquire Jordan Eberle and lose either Simon Despres/Robert Bortuzzo, a top defensive prospect (Scott Harrington or Derrick Pouliot), and a draft pick (second or third round).

Best case scenario for Edmonton: They acquire either Brandon Sutter or a combination of young defensive talent that can be immediately thrown into the line-up and play solid minutes, while losing David Perron. Eberle is arguably the best player on that team and it would be a big loss for the team if he were to be traded.

While these are hypothetical scenarios, they are ones that would help the teams drastically. Pittsburgh needs a “right-now” type of winger and Edmonton could use a “later-this-year” pair of defensemen to get their feet wet in the league and organization and prove to be vital pick-ups heading into the 2015-16 campaign."

if GMJR can swing burtuzzo, harrington and a 2nd for eberle i would by everyone here a beer

here is a perfect read and sums it up nicely

http://thehockeywriters.c...rs-a-perfect-combination/

Sums it up
"Best case scenario for Pittsburgh: They acquire Jordan Eberle and lose either Simon Despres/Robert Bortuzzo, a top defensive prospect (Scott Harrington or Derrick Pouliot), and a draft pick (second or third round).

Best case scenario for Edmonton: They acquire either Brandon Sutter or a combination of young defensive talent that can be immediately thrown into the line-up and play solid minutes, while losing David Perron. Eberle is arguably the best player on that team and it would be a big loss for the team if he were to be traded.

While these are hypothetical scenarios, they are ones that would help the teams drastically. Pittsburgh needs a “right-now” type of winger and Edmonton could use a “later-this-year” pair of defensemen to get their feet wet in the league and organization and prove to be vital pick-ups heading into the 2015-16 campaign."

if GMJR can swing burtuzzo, harrington and a 2nd for eberle i would by everyone here a beer
- nh4442

Look at this from EDM perspective. Eberle is locked up long term for a decent price. They have quite a few of mid level D players now. I dont see how acquiring several more helps the team. Perron has 1 yr left, will be gone after that no matter what they do. They need a C. Sutter doesnt buy Eberle, maybe Sutter + and not sure if the Pens can afford that. If they move Eberle now, they will also lose Perron next year, then they have to deal with Yak who is a RFA. They potentially will lost Ebs, Perron and Yaks all within next year. Eberle aint going anywhere. Besides, hes not really what the Pens need. They already have 2 flashy high skill players. They need guys that do the dirty work.

or if they could have gotten horn + forsberg for neal + 2nd or 3rd rd..
- znagle

i dont think nashville was parting with the two of them in the same deal, unless something pretty good with neal was going back the other way.

hornqvist as been a perfect fit for this team, so its hard to lament that deal right now. spaling hasnt been great, but at least he has been a competent body. he isnt a tanner glass.

Look at this from EDM perspective. Eberle is locked up long term for a decent price. They have quite a few of mid level D players now. I dont see how acquiring several more helps the team. Perron has 1 yr left, will be gone after that no matter what they do. They need a C. Sutter doesnt buy Eberle, maybe Sutter + and not sure if the Pens can afford that. If they move Eberle now, they will also lose Perron next year, then they have to deal with Yak who is a RFA. They potentially will lost Ebs, Perron and Yaks all within next year. Eberle aint going anywhere. Besides, hes not really what the Pens need. They already have 2 flashy high skill players. They need guys that do the dirty work.
- sammy87

The pens need young gifted wingers, for right now....

we know we have kap and sund could be moved to wing but he would be a great 3rd line center... but they are a yr away

moving sutter or martin and even scuds(for a pick) will give the pens room to go after 2 nice young wingers... kuni isnt going to be able to keep it up the next couple of yrs and we dont know if dupes could come back.. right now spaling is not cutting it on top line and comeau is a short term option (even tho he is playing great)

The pens need young gifted wingers, for right now....

we know we have kap and sund could be moved to wing but he would be a great 3rd line center... but they are a yr away

moving sutter or martin and even scuds(for a pick) will give the pens room to go after 2 nice young wingers... kuni isnt going to be able to keep it up the next couple of yrs and we dont know if dupes could come back.. right now spaling is not cutting it on top line and comeau is a short term option (even tho he is playing great)
- nh4442

No I agree with u on the pens needs. But edm isn't giving up both ebs and Perron.

No I agree with u on the pens needs. But edm isn't giving up both ebs and Perron.
- sammy87

That might be true. So I would hope GMJR pulls a deal for eberle before someone does for perron.. or vice versa.. I just think eberle is the kind of player the pens need and not so much perron bbc we have kuni and horn... but then again I would take e.kane in a heartbeat and I feel he plays the same as perron but only better...

ANA traded a 3rd for Brewer because FB is out 4-6 weeks. Would've liked to see JR go and be aggressive there to try and meet need/demand in the middle.

Could've had Bortuzzo, Dumoulin or Samuelsson

@reporterchris: Trading Eric Brewer improves the #TBLightning cap situation considerably. Veteran D-man carries a $3.875M annual hit.

Could've had Bortuzzo, Dumoulin or Samuelsson

@reporterchris: Trading Eric Brewer improves the #TBLightning cap situation considerably. Veteran D-man carries a $3.875M annual hit.
- HopintheCordoba

We are waiting on the etem trade

Etem for scuderi

But seriously can scuderi fetch a 4th?

We are waiting on the etem trade

Etem for scuderi

But seriously can scuderi fetch a 4th?
- nh4442

This move makes me think ANA won't be bothered to do it. Im starting to think Scuderi isn't in the plans for moves...but it'd be smart to involve him. His stock is even at its worst. Moving him gives you even more space than the LTIR. I'd say he'd get that. Maybe a 3rd if the team is desperate.

Scuds must be traded if we want to add a couple Top 6 wingers. I was high on Fleischmann but his numbers have been terrible. He was demoted to the fourth line and it must say something. I don't know.

But anyway, Perron would cost a lot more than other options out there like Stafford, Stewart, Fleischmann or N.Foligno.
- Barnaby36

I have little interest in Perron. If we are trading with Edmonton we should be after Yakupov. We should be able to swing a deal for him with Pouliot, and I have no problem trading Pouliot for Yakupov.

You mentioned the big fish that I would love the Pens to get in Nick Foligno. He brings everything to the table; skill, speed, grit, effort on every shift. I dont know what Columbus would be looking for, probably lots. Likely he re-signs.

Kunitz Crosby Hornqvist
Foligno Malkin Yakupov
Bennet Sutter Downie
Comeau Goc Spaling

Thats a deep forward group.

This move makes me think ANA won't be bothered to do it. Im starting to think Scuderi isn't in the plans for moves...but it'd be smart to involve him. His stock is even at its worst. Moving him gives you even more space than the LTIR. I'd say he'd get that. Maybe a 3rd if the team is desperate.
- HopintheCordoba

I've got the terrible feeling that the coaching staff see him as very valuable is teaching the young defenders. Maybe he is a locker room superstar, but geez if we can dish that cap hit...

Saw this on Yahoo Sports. Ranking every Black NHL Jersey for Black Friday. Guess who got #1?

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...ack-friday-171550037.html
- sammy87

Yes, thanks and it is a classic, notice this picture of 66 holding up the cup is my avatar and always has been. Gunner, I have never seen Tlutsy play so I can't comment on your suggestion. But you can be sure I will be watching. We have combined it with a dinner/wine tasting party so I will try to stay focused. But it is at my house and I'm not driving so....

Personally, I like Tulusty. I think he could shine as a 3F option on a line with Malkin/Kunitz or Crosby/Hornquvist. Won't be successful as 'The Guy,' but would be a great as a contributory role player in the Penguins Top-6, kinda like Dupuis.

If he isn't a trade deadline acquisition, hope he gets some attention as a UFA this offseason.

I've got the terrible feeling that the coaching staff see him as very valuable is teaching the young defenders. Maybe he is a locker room superstar, but geez if we can dish that cap hit...
- stackthepads

I think that's fair to say. Plus, with Ehrhoff not extended(yet) and Martin's contact ending, he's one of a few guys with contract control. Would've loved to see Harrington take over but I'm not so sure they want to do it. A shame. He's ready.