a top 4 of letang, maatta, ehrhoff, and despres could be very, very workable.

i love what i hear about pouliot, but i wouldnt be opposed to moving him if it brought in a young, established solution in the top 6.

im not a big IF guy, but imagine if the pens had gotten forsberg instead of pouliot.
- stayinthefnnet

or if they could have gotten horn + forsberg for neal + 2nd or 3rd rd..

I'd take a flyer on Fleischman or Stafford. Ay idea what kind of return Buff wants for Stafford? He strikes me as the kind of guy that could really benefit from a change of scenery and be a nice top 6 fit.
- Emperor Filonius

Perhaps a 3rd RP + B Prospect? It can't be much more than that.

Despres has been solid. I think Erhoff will show more as the season moves along too.
- Emperor Filonius

In my eyes he's been very very good defensively. I must say I'm not looking at numbers at all just his overall game. Johnston seems to like him A LOT. I'd extend him and Comeau pretty quickly if I could keep the same cap hits.

Wrong. A lack of scoring from every line. Our stars couldn't put the puck in the net either. I do believe Perron and Tlusty would give us better results than just keeping Sutter. We'd have to find a way to unload Scuderi though.
- Barnaby36

Point is, you can get Tlusty without trading Sutter.

If Sutter is the price for Perron (admittedly talented, but oft-injured, inconsistent, a bit of a floater, and not exactly a defensive dynamo, and 2 goals in 19 playoff games), it's just not worth it.

I'd rather have Stafford for a song than Perron for a king's ransom.

Fleischman was demoted because they want their kids to play more (bjugstad, Barkov, etc...). He plays a good 2 way game still and would be a great pickup for depth. The only problem is his cap hit. According to a panthers writer, they were looking to dump guys like fleischman and bergenheim to make room for the kids. I'd bet that the panthers would be willing to retain some cap too
- drummer829

I like Bergenheim too. He's a good player for depth on the bottom 6. He can skate.

Fleischmann, T. » $4,500,000 UFA
Bergenheim, Sean » $2,750,000 UFA

If we only could manage to unload Scuderi...those two wouldn't cost a lot.

a top 4 of letang, maatta, ehrhoff, and despres could be very, very workable.

i love what i hear about pouliot, but i wouldnt be opposed to moving him if it brought in a young, established solution in the top 6.

im not a big IF guy, but imagine if the pens had gotten forsberg instead of pouliot.
- stayinthefnnet

And to think we already have Harrington ready to play, Pouliot maybe 1-2 years away and Bortuzzo as our 6th or 7th d-man. We are in a solid position.

I hate the idea of Fleischmann. Just don't see how it ups the Penguins' playoff chances. Not exactly the kind of wing whose game translates in the playoffs.

And 9 goals in his last 97 games is hard to ignore.

I like Bergenheim too. He's a good player for depth on the bottom 6. He can skate.

Fleischmann, T. » $4,500,000 UFA
Bergenheim, Sean » $2,750,000 UFA

If we only could manage to unload Scuderi...those two wouldn't cost a lot.
- Barnaby36

I'd put money on it that they would retain cap too. But a mid prospect and mid pick should be the ball park

Point is, you can get Tlusty without trading Sutter.

If Sutter is the price for Perron (admittedly talented, but oft-injured, inconsistent, a bit of a floater, and not exactly a defensive dynamo, and 2 goals in 19 playoff games), it's just not worth it.

I'd rather have Stafford for a song than Perron for a king's ransom.
- hardnosed

Yes, absolutely. In order of preference I'd still put Fleischmann ahead of him on my list though.(List of players we could get for cheap)

Point is, you can get Tlusty without trading Sutter.

If Sutter is the price for Perron (admittedly talented, but oft-injured, inconsistent, a bit of a floater, and not exactly a defensive dynamo, and 2 goals in 19 playoff games), it's just not worth it.

I'd rather have Stafford for a song than Perron for a king's ransom.
- hardnosed

I think you are closer to what I have been saying, although Perron is good he isn't trade Sutter good. You are not opposed to the trade of Sutter but it should be for someone more dynamic that Perron.

Trading futures for Stafford and Keeping Sutter could be better than just getting Perron. I mean at this point whatever right wing we get is hopefully just going to keep the seat warm for Kapanen next season.

I'd put money on it that they would retain cap too. But a mid prospect and mid pick should be the ball park
- drummer829

Yes please. Our team would look so much more dangerous out there.

I bet Fleischmann could score at least 9 goals in 25 games with Geno flanking him. (9 goals in his last 97 games )

Point is, you can get Tlusty without trading Sutter.

If Sutter is the price for Perron (admittedly talented, but oft-injured, inconsistent, a bit of a floater, and not exactly a defensive dynamo, and 2 goals in 19 playoff games), it's just not worth it.

I'd rather have Stafford for a song than Perron for a king's ransom.
- hardnosed

+1

Yes, absolutely. In order of preference I'd still put Fleischmann ahead of him on my list though.(List of players we could get for cheap)
- Barnaby36

My thought process is that they're not going to find a big, talented, hard-working winger for a reasonable price. So you go and get a big, talented, enigmatic winger for a reasonable price.

Tlusty-Crosby-Hörnqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Fleischmann
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Spaling-Goc-Megna (Adams)

Assuming we trade Scuderi.

much better look for little...

Yes please. Our team would look so much more dangerous out there.

I bet Fleischmann could score at least 9 goals in 25 games with Geno flanking him. (9 goals in his last 97 games )
- Barnaby36

To me he would be like how jokinen was here. Play wing, but if one of the centers go down with an injury, he could fill that role until they are healthy. His goal totals are unimpressive, but his role with the panthers diminishing with the kids getting more time, and also that team is just bad

My thought process is that they're not going to find a big, talented, hard-working winger for a reasonable price. So you go and get a big, talented, enigmatic winger for a reasonable price.
- hardnosed

Are you describing Stewart? we COULD hit lightning in a bottle with him or could fail miserably.

Tlusty-Crosby-Hörnqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Fleischmann
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Spaling-Goc-Megna (Adams)

Assuming we trade Scuderi.

much better look for little...
- Barnaby36

That would be ok with me. You also likely keep pouliot and Harrington. Also without martins contract next year you could easily resign one or both depending how they play

Are you describing Stewart? we COULD hit lightning in a bottle with him or could fail miserably.
- Barnaby36

Ponikarovsky pt. 2

To me he would be like how jokinen was here. Play wing, but if one of the centers go down with an injury, he could fill that role until they are healthy. His goal totals are unimpressive, but his role with the panthers diminishing with the kids getting more time, and also that team is just bad
- drummer829

Well you just reminded me of Bergenheim and now I see him as a possibility for bottom 6 depth if we move Scuderi's cap. Fleischmann is a yes from me.

Ponikarovsky pt. 2
- drummer829

How could we fall for Leafs trade proposals? We shoulded be aware of it

How could we fall for Leafs trade proposals? We shoulded be aware of it
- Barnaby36

Lesson learned.

Tlusty-Crosby-Hörnqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Fleischmann
Downie-Sutter-Bennett
Spaling-Goc-Megna (Adams)

Assuming we trade Scuderi.

much better look for little...
- Barnaby36

Comeau?

Are you describing Stewart? we COULD hit lightning in a bottle with him or could fail miserably.
- Barnaby36

He would cost way too much for how bipolar his play can be. I remember chatter last year saying that some gm's won't even entertain a trade if he is involved.

He would cost way too much for how bipolar his play can be. I remember chatter last year saying that some gm's won't even entertain a trade if he is involved.
- usethe1-2-2

I'd probably take him if the price was right. Remember he's a FA next year, might be able to get him as a rental near deadline and possibly keep him next year

I'd probably take him if the price was right. Remember he's a FA next year, might be able to get him as a rental near deadline and possibly keep him next year
- znagle

The price would have to be a mason jar filled with farts and P Samuelsson or else I'm out. No way is worth anything more. He is just lazy and invisible.