You're right- Wideman is an AHL player- he's leading the league in points, as a defenseman....

Smith is better than any centre on your roster not named Nugent Hopkins.

Lehner is far better than both of your goalies

and Stone is trending way upwards- to the point I'm not sure I'd want to trade him.

I'd love to have Eberle, but I don't really have any interest in Perron.
- Jordo

Really?

I agree that Lehner is a better goalie than ours. And Stone we arent really looking for. Wideman is another d prospect, we need a right now D.

You started the hostility buddy.
- Oilfan19

No, I made a proposal and some Oilers fans jumped down my throat calling me stupid. My proposal was obviously through Sens glasses but I was jus throwing it out there for discussion.

You're right- Wideman is an AHL player- he's leading the league in points, as a defenseman....

Smith is better than any centre on your roster not named Nugent Hopkins.

Lehner is far better than both of your goalies

and Stone is trending way upwards- to the point I'm not sure I'd want to trade him.

I'd love to have Eberle, but I don't really have any interest in Perron.
- Jordo

So did Schultz, what's your point? If i remember correctly he lead defenseman in points at the end of the shortend season with only playing half the year...


again, how does that help us now?

Smith remark, i don't even feel like i need to answer this, just bad, so bad.

Lehner could very well be yes.

You can't help but feel sorry for Edmonton.

They need a manager who can identify the fact that the entire roster needs to be blown up with only a few pieces retained. As I mentioned before- those pieces should be Hall, Eberle, Draisaitl and whoever you get with your 1st round pick.

Everybody else can be traded for pieces you have needed for the past 7 years. A legitimate #1C, a #1 goalie, and a #1 Defenseman.

You can get all of those guys by trading Nugent Hopkins, Yakupov, Perron, Schultz, Scrivens..


I think it's hilarious that all of you Edmonton fans are poopting all over trade proposals. You can't see the forest for the trees.


Lehner in Ottawa doesn't help you, and I'd rather keep him anyway.

Thinking that you're going to get the world for David Perron is incredibly short-sighted though. If you think Edmonton is dealing from a position of strength you're dead wrong
- Jordo

It's the same logic every single time. Like it may as we'll be verbatim.
Why even bother wording it differently?

"Don't say no to trade proposals cause ur a bad team. Accept whatever ur offered"
Like holy fuk. Where do people come up with this logic?

The whole fact that we're dealing from a position of weakness is the entire fuking point.
We know it. So we also know the sh1t ur offering and the advantage said gm is gonna try and take. And we won't accept it. Cause it won't help us.


Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees...

No, I made a proposal and some Oilers fans jumped down my throat calling me stupid. My proposal was obviously through Sens glasses but I was jus throwing it out there for discussion.
- forbetterorWORSE

maybe you need to read back

I would say Nuge is staying as well. He's been very good this year.

Oiler fans are only poopting on trade proposals that don't match the needs you yourself pointed out. And I don't think anyone thinks Perron is bringing us a huge return.
- Oilfan19

He'll never be a #1 that you expect him to be- he's far too small to play in this league for an extended period at a high level... And when you draft McDavid or Eichel this year, he becomes extremely redundant.

You could get a nice return for RNH. You could definitely steal Yandle out of PHX and get some more pieces on top of that. Maybe even their 1st?

The problem is, you need the opposite of youth in Edmonton. The rebuild has gone on way too long. You need some veteran leadership, and you need to build it from the goalie out. Biggest need is a legitimate goalie, and then surround him with some capable defensemen.

I think if you retained Hall, Draisaitl and maybe Yakupov (because his return isn't what Eberle or RNH's is, and I believe he still has massive potential if given the right opportunity), as well as the incoming high draft pick. You've got a fantastic core to your offense.

It's a shame that Edmonton has been atrocious, because Hall is a superstar. If he didn't have to worry every shift about being overly defensively responsible- he could tear this league apart- I really believe that.

You need to surround and support him with capable goaltending and D so he can do his thing.. and the only way you do that is to flip some of your star power offense for star power defense.

Ottawa got fleeced by Tampa in the Bishop trade, so that is a mute point all around.

You can't help but feel sorry for Edmonton.

They need a manager who can identify the fact that the entire roster needs to be blown up with only a few pieces retained. As I mentioned before- those pieces should be Hall, Eberle, Draisaitl and whoever you get with your 1st round pick.

Everybody else can be traded for pieces you have needed for the past 7 years. A legitimate #1C, a #1 goalie, and a #1 Defenseman.

You can get all of those guys by trading Nugent Hopkins, Yakupov, Perron, Schultz, Scrivens..


I think it's hilarious that all of you Edmonton fans are poopting all over trade proposals. You can't see the forest for the trees.


Lehner in Ottawa doesn't help you, and I'd rather keep him anyway.

Thinking that you're going to get the world for David Perron is incredibly short-sighted though. If you think Edmonton is dealing from a position of strength you're dead wrong
- Jordo

so if they're not dealing from a position of strength, why deal him? let alone why deal him for less than he's worth?

take a walk and think

No, I made a proposal and some Oilers fans jumped down my throat calling me stupid. My proposal was obviously through Sens glasses but I was jus throwing it out there for discussion.
- forbetterorWORSE

All we ask is that you actually look at our needs before you throw together a bunch of guys your going to send over for top prospects and 1st liners. It wasn't as bad as the leaf guys joke offer so we will give you that. The reason you got the response you did is because you called oiler fans arrogant for not liking your deal which may fix 1 hole but opens 2 more.

He'll never be a #1 that you expect him to be- he's far too small to play in this league for an extended period at a high level... And when you draft McDavid or Eichel this year, he becomes extremely redundant.

You could get a nice return for RNH. You could definitely steal Yandle out of PHX and get some more pieces on top of that. Maybe even their 1st?

The problem is, you need the opposite of youth in Edmonton. The rebuild has gone on way too long. You need some veteran leadership, and you need to build it from the goalie out. Biggest need is a legitimate goalie, and then surround him with some capable defensemen.

I think if you retained Hall, Draisaitl and maybe Yakupov (because his return isn't what Eberle or RNH's is, and I believe he still has massive potential if given the right opportunity), as well as the incoming high draft pick. You've got a fantastic core to your offense.

It's a shame that Edmonton has been atrocious, because Hall is a superstar. If he didn't have to worry every shift about being overly defensively responsible- he could tear this league apart- I really believe that.

You need to surround and support him with capable goaltending and D so he can do his thing.. and the only way you do that is to flip some of your star power offense for star power defense.
- Jordo

well RNH is 21. If he's not a top 15 C now, better give up on him. Hope you recall where Turris was at 21

maybe you need to read back
- SpoiledByOil

I did, and the first reply to my post told me to shove it up my ass lol

this Jordo seems like Aerchon from our usual threads. Post can be essay-long but everything in it is so misinformed it's crazy

He'll never be a #1 that you expect him to be- he's far too small to play in this league for an extended period at a high level... And when you draft McDavid or Eichel this year, he becomes extremely redundant.

You could get a nice return for RNH. You could definitely steal Yandle out of PHX and get some more pieces on top of that. Maybe even their 1st?

The problem is, you need the opposite of youth in Edmonton. The rebuild has gone on way too long. You need some veteran leadership, and you need to build it from the goalie out. Biggest need is a legitimate goalie, and then surround him with some capable defensemen.

I think if you retained Hall, Draisaitl and maybe Yakupov (because his return isn't what Eberle or RNH's is, and I believe he still has massive potential if given the right opportunity), as well as the incoming high draft pick. You've got a fantastic core to your offense.

It's a shame that Edmonton has been atrocious, because Hall is a superstar. If he didn't have to worry every shift about being overly defensively responsible- he could tear this league apart- I really believe that.

You need to surround and support him with capable goaltending and D so he can do his thing.. and the only way you do that is to flip some of your star power offense for star power defense.
- Jordo

I disagree on your take of RNH and I think having the top 2 C as RNH and Mcdavid in whichever order would be unbelievable. I think Rnh will be a solid #1 for the majority of his career.

He'll never be a #1 that you expect him to be- he's far too small to play in this league for an extended period at a high level... And when you draft McDavid or Eichel this year, he becomes extremely redundant.

Tyler Seguin is also a poopty #1?

You could get a nice return for RNH. You could definitely steal Yandle out of PHX and get some more pieces on top of that. Maybe even their 1st?

Nuge for Yandle and a 1st? Don't need picks.
- Jordo

All we ask is that you actually look at our needs before you throw together a bunch of guys your going to send over for top prospects and 1st liners. It wasn't as bad as the leaf guys joke offer so we will give you that. The reason you got the response you did is because you called oiler fans arrogant for not liking your deal which may fix 1 hole but opens 2 more.
- Oilfan19

I apoligize for any disrespectful comments I made. I will take out Stone and Smith and add Lazar and Weircoch.

He'll never be a #1 that you expect him to be- he's far too small to play in this league for an extended period at a high level... And when you draft McDavid or Eichel this year, he becomes extremely redundant.

You could get a nice return for RNH. You could definitely steal Yandle out of PHX and get some more pieces on top of that. Maybe even their 1st?

The problem is, you need the opposite of youth in Edmonton. The rebuild has gone on way too long. You need some veteran leadership, and you need to build it from the goalie out. Biggest need is a legitimate goalie, and then surround him with some capable defensemen.

I think if you retained Hall, Draisaitl and maybe Yakupov (because his return isn't what Eberle or RNH's is, and I believe he still has massive potential if given the right opportunity), as well as the incoming high draft pick. You've got a fantastic core to your offense.

It's a shame that Edmonton has been atrocious, because Hall is a superstar. If he didn't have to worry every shift about being overly defensively responsible- he could tear this league apart- I really believe that.

You need to surround and support him with capable goaltending and D so he can do his thing.. and the only way you do that is to flip some of your star power offense for star power defense.
- Jordo

Nuge's size is no longer an issue.
This was the conventional wisdom two years ago.
U need to pay attention.
He's a different player this year. He is in no way the problem.
He's already a decent 1c. At 21. And done far more than some of the most established 1c's at the same age.

However, mcdavid may make him redundant, but it would be absolutely ludicrous to deal him before we actually have the pick.

U vastly underrate him and haven't seen much of him this year I'd wager

He'll never be a #1 that you expect him to be- he's far too small to play in this league for an extended period at a high level... And when you draft McDavid or Eichel this year, he becomes extremely redundant.

You could get a nice return for RNH. You could definitely steal Yandle out of PHX and get some more pieces on top of that. Maybe even their 1st?

The problem is, you need the opposite of youth in Edmonton. The rebuild has gone on way too long. You need some veteran leadership, and you need to build it from the goalie out. Biggest need is a legitimate goalie, and then surround him with some capable defensemen.

I think if you retained Hall, Draisaitl and maybe Yakupov (because his return isn't what Eberle or RNH's is, and I believe he still has massive potential if given the right opportunity), as well as the incoming high draft pick. You've got a fantastic core to your offense.

It's a shame that Edmonton has been atrocious, because Hall is a superstar. If he didn't have to worry every shift about being overly defensively responsible- he could tear this league apart- I really believe that.

You need to surround and support him with capable goaltending and D so he can do his thing.. and the only way you do that is to flip some of your star power offense for star power defense.
- Jordo

couldn't even read pass this

Toews
Kane
Tavares
Crosby
Seguin
Coture
Pavelski
Duchene
MaKinnon
Datsyuk
Zetterberg

just off the top of my head, all guys about the same size or smaller than Nuge. what a great argument

well RNH is 21. If he's not a top 15 C now, better give up on him. Hope you recall where Turris was at 21
- TheNugeIsHuge

Turris is not a #1 C... Ottawa's looking for one of those as well..

It's not giving up on him, it's flipping him for talent in a different position to round out your roster.

You're going to draft a quality C this year in the draft.

I apoligize for any disrespectful comments I made. I will take out Stone and Smith and add Lazar and Weircoch.
- forbetterorWORSE

so if they're not dealing from a position of strength, why deal him? let alone why deal him for less than he's worth?

take a walk and think
- TheNugeIsHuge

Let's just copy and paste this as our response to every post

Turris is not a #1 C... Ottawa's looking for one of those as well..

It's not giving up on him, it's flipping him for talent in a different position to round out your roster.

You're going to draft a quality C this year in the draft.
- Jordo

Our problem is C depth, why throw what little depth we could have next year out the window?

this Jordo seems like Aerchon from our usual threads. Post can be essay-long but everything in it is so misinformed it's crazy
- TheNugeIsHuge

Wanna know who's misinformed? Craig MacTavish and the entire Edmonton management. They've let a rebuild go on for 7 years and have accumulated immense talent but has no idea what to do with it or how to build a successful hockey team.

It's embarrassing, and as a fan of the Oilers I'd be incredibly (frank)ing embarrassed.

couldn't even read pass this

Toews
Kane
Tavares
Crosby
Seguin
Coture
Pavelski
Duchene
MaKinnon
Datsyuk
Zetterberg

just off the top of my head, all guys about the same size or smaller than Nuge. what a great argument
- SpoiledByOil

Have you actually seen Nugent Hopkins without equipment on? He's listed at 190 lbs, but that is a gross exaggeration. MacKinnon is twice his size, that kid is built like a (frank)ing ox.

Wanna know who's misinformed? Craig MacTavish and the entire Edmonton management. They've let a rebuild go on for 7 years and have accumulated immense talent but has no idea what to do with it or how to build a successful hockey team.

It's embarrassing, and as a fan of the Oilers I'd be incredibly (frank)ing embarrassed.
- Jordo

Did you copy and paste this from an earlier post?

Wanna know who's misinformed? Craig MacTavish and the entire Edmonton management. They've let a rebuild go on for 7 years and have accumulated immense talent but has no idea what to do with it or how to build a successful hockey team.

It's embarrassing, and as a fan of the Oilers I'd be incredibly (frank)ing embarrassed.
- Jordo

Touchy much?