Oilfan19
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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add in a future 6/7 Dman and you're sold? wow - TheNugeIsHuge
I said that could be the only decent proposal on this board.. |
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Honest question. What do you guys really think the Oilers would get for Eberle? |
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Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: MB Joined: 02.08.2011
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yea then what did Ott do with him? Oh yea, put him on waivers.
he was a 22 year old undrafted rookie playing with Stamkos, i could be up for rookie of the year at that age with those linemates - SpoiledByOil
That's using hindsight. At the time he had 24 points in 35 games and was on pace for 56 points. Not a bad haul for their 3rd goalie. |
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Still waiting..... - Oilfan19
This argument has turned into claims I didn't even make. I just can't get over how much arrogance is coming from a fan base of a team who has sucked so bad for so long. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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Id be mad too if I was an Oilers fan. - forbetterorWORSE
I'd be mad too if i was as stupid as you, oh wait, nm, i'd be too stupid to realize i was stupid. |
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I'd be mad too if i was as stupid as you, oh wait, nm, i'd be too stupid to realize i was stupid. - SpoiledByOil
Continually calling someone stupid does not make you any smarter. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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That's using hindsight. At the time he had 24 points in 35 games and was on pace for 56 points. Not a bad haul for their 3rd goalie. - Dangles13
It's not using hindisight at all, he was a 22 year old rookie, i don't care about him being in the running with 18 year olds, and look at his linemates, again not impressed. I was shocked that they got Bishop for Conacher, and he wasn't their #3 at the time. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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This argument has turned into claims I didn't even make. I just can't get over how much arrogance is coming from a fan base of a team who has sucked so bad for so long. - forbetterorWORSE
The only arrogant one is you, we're all backing up our claims, you're side stepping and avoiding because you're starting to realize how pathetic they actually were |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Bishop at 26yrs old went for Conacher who was up for rookie of the year at the time and a 4th round pick. The year before he was traded for a 2nd round pick.
Lehner is only 23 and should have a little more value. - Dangles13
So a solid young, but unproven player and a 4th...
I'd pay a decent prospect and a second for Lehner.
Just too many question marks with goalies to pay more than that.
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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This argument has turned into claims I didn't even make. I just can't get over how much arrogance is coming from a fan base of a team who has sucked so bad for so long. - forbetterorWORSE
You claimed that the oilers will continue to suck unless we trade top players to other teams for your specific trade offer where the only player we could use is Lehner. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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Continually calling someone stupid does not make you any smarter. - forbetterorWORSE
Pretty sure you're the one that started with calling people stupid for not thinking trading our 1RW and 2LW for ahl players and plugs was going to make us better.
then you had your typical donkey troll response of "oh stay bad then" without justifying and explaining how it improves our team.
just pathetic all around |
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Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: MB Joined: 02.08.2011
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So a solid young, but unproven player and a 4th...
I'd pay a decent prospect and a second for Lehner.
Just too many question marks with goalies to pay more than that. - hugefemale dog77
I'd pay that too. |
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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Continually calling someone stupid does not make you any smarter. - forbetterorWORSE
You started the hostility buddy. |
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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Honest question. What do you guys really think the Oilers would get for Eberle? - H8terade
Thats a tough question. I would hope for a #1or #2 dman. |
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Jordo
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON Joined: 06.27.2007
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You can't help but feel sorry for Edmonton.
They need a manager who can identify the fact that the entire roster needs to be blown up with only a few pieces retained. As I mentioned before- those pieces should be Hall, Eberle, Draisaitl and whoever you get with your 1st round pick.
Everybody else can be traded for pieces you have needed for the past 7 years. A legitimate #1C, a #1 goalie, and a #1 Defenseman.
You can get all of those guys by trading Nugent Hopkins, Yakupov, Perron, Schultz, Scrivens..
I think it's hilarious that all of you Edmonton fans are poopting all over trade proposals. You can't see the forest for the trees.
Lehner in Ottawa doesn't help you, and I'd rather keep him anyway.
Thinking that you're going to get the world for David Perron is incredibly short-sighted though. If you think Edmonton is dealing from a position of strength you're dead wrong |
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Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: MB Joined: 02.08.2011
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It's not using hindisight at all, he was a 22 year old rookie, i don't care about him being in the running with 18 year olds, and look at his linemates, again not impressed. I was shocked that they got Bishop for Conacher, and he wasn't their #3 at the time. - SpoiledByOil
Saying he got put on waivers after was using hindsight. He was playing good enough to play with Stamkos. I didn't mean Bishop was their #3 just their 3rd goalie on the roster. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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So a solid young, but unproven player and a 4th...
I'd pay a decent prospect and a second for Lehner.
Just too many question marks with goalies to pay more than that. - hugefemale dog77
Exactly, I'd be all over Lehner for a prospect and a 2nd. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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Saying he got put on waivers after was using hindsight. He was playing good enough to play with Stamkos. I didn't mean Bishop was their #3 just their 3rd goalie on the roster. - Dangles13
that he was on waivers was hindsight, the fact that he went for Bishop was not, i thought it was stupid then and i think it was stupid now. Anyone can play with Stamkos and St.Louis. His numbers were clearly inflated |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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This argument has turned into claims I didn't even make. I just can't get over how much arrogance is coming from a fan base of a team who has sucked so bad for so long. - forbetterorWORSE
So because the team we cheer for is bad, this somehow diminishes our ability to gauge league value? Or memorize what the league standards are in terms of return in value for certain players?
What does the oilers sucking really have to do with the conversation at all?
Unless again, you're claiming we should accept any deal offered just for the sake if it cause we're bad.
That may no be arrogance. But instead that's ignorance |
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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB Joined: 02.16.2012
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You can't help but feel sorry for Edmonton.
They need a manager who can identify the fact that the entire roster needs to be blown up with only a few pieces retained. As I mentioned before- those pieces should be Hall, Eberle, Draisaitl and whoever you get with your 1st round pick.
Everybody else can be traded for pieces you have needed for the past 7 years. A legitimate #1C, a #1 goalie, and a #1 Defenseman.
You can get all of those guys by trading Nugent Hopkins, Yakupov, Perron, Schultz, Scrivens..
I think it's hilarious that all of you Edmonton fans are poopting all over trade proposals. You can't see the forest for the trees.
Lehner in Ottawa doesn't help you, and I'd rather keep him anyway.
Thinking that you're going to get the world for David Perron is incredibly short-sighted though. If you think Edmonton is dealing from a position of strength you're dead wrong - Jordo
I would say Nuge is staying as well. He's been very good this year.
Oiler fans are only poopting on trade proposals that don't match the needs you yourself pointed out. And I don't think anyone thinks Perron is bringing us a huge return. |
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Jordo
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON Joined: 06.27.2007
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Pretty sure you're the one that started with calling people stupid for not thinking trading our 1RW and 2LW for ahl players and plugs was going to make us better.
then you had your typical donkey troll response of "oh stay bad then" without justifying and explaining how it improves our team.
just pathetic all around - SpoiledByOil
You're right- Wideman is an AHL player- he's leading the league in points, as a defenseman....
Smith is better than any centre on your roster not named Nugent Hopkins.
Lehner is far better than both of your goalies
and Stone is trending way upwards- to the point I'm not sure I'd want to trade him.
I'd love to have Eberle, but I don't really have any interest in Perron. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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You can't help but feel sorry for Edmonton.
They need a manager who can identify the fact that the entire roster needs to be blown up with only a few pieces retained. As I mentioned before- those pieces should be Hall, Eberle, Draisaitl and whoever you get with your 1st round pick.
Everybody else can be traded for pieces you have needed for the past 7 years. A legitimate #1C, a #1 goalie, and a #1 Defenseman.
You can get all of those guys by trading Nugent Hopkins, Yakupov, Perron, Schultz, Scrivens..
I think it's hilarious that all of you Edmonton fans are poopting all over trade proposals. You can't see the forest for the trees.
Lehner in Ottawa doesn't help you, and I'd rather keep him anyway.
Thinking that you're going to get the world for David Perron is incredibly short-sighted though. If you think Edmonton is dealing from a position of strength you're dead wrong - Jordo
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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And this why the Oilers will continue to be exactly where they are today. Its a damn shame that its looking very possible that a fantastic player like McDavid is going to end up in the environment of losing. - forbetterorWORSE
Get stuffed. Making trades like this one is what got the Oilers in the position to rebuild in the first place. It's Robin Lehner not Pekka Rinne, Jabroni. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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You can't help but feel sorry for Edmonton.
They need a manager who can identify the fact that the entire roster needs to be blown up with only a few pieces retained. As I mentioned before- those pieces should be Hall, Eberle, Draisaitl and whoever you get with your 1st round pick.
Everybody else can be traded for pieces you have needed for the past 7 years. A legitimate #1C, a #1 goalie, and a #1 Defenseman.
You can get all of those guys by trading Nugent Hopkins, Yakupov, Perron, Schultz, Scrivens..
I think it's hilarious that all of you Edmonton fans are poopting all over trade proposals. You can't see the forest for the trees.
Lehner in Ottawa doesn't help you, and I'd rather keep him anyway.
Thinking that you're going to get the world for David Perron is incredibly short-sighted though. If you think Edmonton is dealing from a position of strength you're dead wrong - Jordo
who the (frank) thinks we'll get the world for Perron? |
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Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: MB Joined: 02.08.2011
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that he was on waivers was hindsight, the fact that he went for Bishop was not, i thought it was stupid then and i think it was stupid now. Anyone can play with Stamkos and St.Louis. His numbers were clearly inflated - SpoiledByOil
At the time Bishop was traded he had 36 NHL games to Conachers 35. It was a young unproven player for a young unproven player. Conachers numbers were definitely inflated but at the time he was hot poop. |
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