I wouldn't do perron for sutter straight up, sutter is a much more valuable player in my eyes at least. He's a great center, great faceoff man, plays full ice, our best pk guy and he would easily be a teams #2 center if he wasn't stuck behind geno and sid. Perron provides scoring touch which would be nice, haven't seen as many games as the oil fans but we need a guy who will fight in the corners and stand in front of shots with no hesitation. Not sure if he plays like that but sutter does and is key to our teams success. If anything I would give up a d prospect and a few picks (2nd and 2nd/3rd) oh, and you guys can have scuderi
- znagle

i doubt that

Jordan Eberle for Brock Nelson + is the kind of deal Craig should be looking at IMO. Big young Center who's starting to click offensively.
- LeftCoaster

Hmm Thats not a bad start but the + would have to be something very interesting.

i doubt that
- SpoiledByOil

Of course not.

He had 26 points last year. That's a worse 2c than we have.

U haven't actually seen him play have you?

And don't bother with the typical, 'yes I have many times'.

Uve proven u haven't with the absolutely ridiculous one dimensional scorer nonsense
- hugefemale dog77

Dude.

I'm not trying to convince u to do the deal as i'm just the opposite. I wouldn't trade perron for sutter either.
But perron is exactly what u described. He's an absolute battler. He's as comfortable fighting on the boards as he is dangling in traffic.
He's gritty and dirty and skilled. A player u love to have on your team.

that said;

I'd consider despres...
- hugefemale dog77

Despres is developing into a nice player. After years of watching our D get pushed around Id be reluctant to move him. I'd like to see what some of our other kids can do before they move him.

i doubt that
- SpoiledByOil

We've seen many worse players do just that in Edmonton

Despres is developing into a nice player. After years of watching our D get pushed around Id be reluctant to move him. I'd like to see what some of our other kids can do before they move him.
- madmike71

I'd trade Sutter before I thought about trading Despres. He'll be Martin's replacement next year.

Of course not.

He had 26 points last year. That's a worse 2c than we have.
- hugefemale dog77

If you're really not even much, if at all, of an improvement on Edmontons center depth, then chances are you're a 3C everywhere

We've seen many worse players do just that in Edmonton
- Barnaby36

Such as?

Such as?
- SpoiledByOil

Horcoff, a young Draisaitl lol whatever...give me a few bad names you've seen there

- SpoiledByOil

Right, I forgot i'm dealing with the same group that for years thought Ales Hemsky was worth a 1st round pick. How's that 3rd and 5th and retained salary working out for ya?

I'd trade Sutter before I thought about trading Despres. He'll be Martin's replacement next year.
- Barnaby36

I agree. I think sutter will want out after next year like Staal.

Horcoff, a young Draisaitl lol whatever...give me a few bad names you've seen there
- Barnaby36

Horcoff hit 70 points at one time. Had a few years at a PPG.

is he? well let's forget the previous 400 career games and focus on the 20 this year.

Sutter's a 3C and not even a great one. EDM would never do that
- TheNugeIsHuge

In those 400 games Perron has been a 40-50pt winger and I said maybe at 25 years of age Sutter was starting to come around offensively. But lets just blast the parts of the post I don't like...

Right, I forgot i'm dealing with the same group that for years thought Ales Hemsky was worth a 1st round pick. How's that 3rd and 5th and retained salary working out for ya?
- H8terade

Sorry our bad. Eberle and Nurse for Clarkson?? Clarkson is such a steal on that contract so he's totally worth it as you seem to think.

Sorry our bad. Eberle and Nurse for Clarkson?? Clarkson is such a steal on that contract so he's totally worth it as you seem to think.
- Oilfan19

Pretty sure it was Eberle/Nurse+ for Clarkson/Kadri/Gardiner+. And I seem to recall your GM backing up the brinks truck to Clarkson's front door. Just giving him what he originally wanted!

Some good comedy on here today.

Lots of turkey hangovers I'm guessing.

Serious Question, why do leafs fans proposals always end up being 5 for 5 deals with all the guys that they complain about being sent out?

Of course not.

He had 26 points last year. That's a worse 2c than we have.
- hugefemale dog77

I think you miss the part where he's stuck behind two of the best in the game.. or maybe its the part where these were his linemates...Tanner Glass, Craig Adams, Chris Conner, Joe Vitale, Jayson Megna, Taylor Pyatt, Andrew Ebbett, Brian Gibbons, Lee Stempniak, Dustin Jeffrey, Chuck Kobasew, Beau Bennett.

This year he is paired with downie and Spaling, bennet, megna and has 11 points in 21 games. Makes a little more sense now that he has decent wingers, think what he can do with actual top 6 guys.

To Ottawa:
Eberle
Perron


To Edmonton:
Wideman
Smith
Lehner
Stone

Right, I forgot i'm dealing with the same group that for years thought Ales Hemsky was worth a 1st round pick. How's that 3rd and 5th and retained salary working out for ya?
- H8terade

Well in that case, this changes everything.
Since hemsky went for less a full two years after some fans thought he was worth a first; low ball away! Well take your offers! Any offer!

It's like there's a stupidity prerequisite to post on hb....

Right, I forgot i'm dealing with the same group that for years thought Ales Hemsky was worth a 1st round pick. How's that 3rd and 5th and retained salary working out for ya?
- H8terade

oh wait, you were actually serious with that offer??? hahahahahaha wow that;s (frank)ing awesome hahaha holy (frank), man, for real?????

I think you miss the part where he's stuck behind two of the best in the game.. or maybe its the part where these were his linemates...Tanner Glass, Craig Adams, Chris Conner, Joe Vitale, Jayson Megna, Taylor Pyatt, Andrew Ebbett, Brian Gibbons, Lee Stempniak, Dustin Jeffrey, Chuck Kobasew, Beau Bennett.

This year he is paired with downie and Spaling, bennet, megna and has 11 points in 21 games. Makes a little more sense now that he has decent wingers, think what he can do with actual top 6 guys.
- znagle

Whats your opinion on Yak?

Pretty sure it was Eberle/Nurse+ for Clarkson/Kadri/Gardiner+. And I seem to recall your GM backing up the brinks truck to Clarkson's front door. Just giving him what he originally wanted!
- H8terade

you recall wrong

I think you miss the part where he's stuck behind two of the best in the game.. or maybe its the part where these were his linemates...Tanner Glass, Craig Adams, Chris Conner, Joe Vitale, Jayson Megna, Taylor Pyatt, Andrew Ebbett, Brian Gibbons, Lee Stempniak, Dustin Jeffrey, Chuck Kobasew, Beau Bennett.

This year he is paired with downie and Spaling, bennet, megna and has 11 points in 21 games. Makes a little more sense now that he has decent wingers, think what he can do with actual top 6 guys.
- znagle

So was Staal, he produced more than Sutter did he not?