The problem is DD doesnt fit the player we need down the middle. We need a bigger C, not add another smaller one. Value could be there with these trades but that doesnt mean it makes it a fit.
- Oilfan19

Agreed that they arent necessarily a fit - but i really dont think anisimov is gonna solve the centre issue either. Realistically i dunno if perron alone is really gonna solve any of the issues.

Here's a question though - if Draisaitl is ready for full time 2nd line centre duties next year (hypothecially) would you want a third line that is prime for exploitation minutes and secondary (or tertiary i guess) scoring or one that is more of a shutdown line?

Edmonton's no touch list:
2015 1st
Hall
Draisaitl
Nurse
Marincin


At this point you have to bank they will be getting McDavid or Eichel, which makes Nugent Hopkins expendable.

I would trade these pieces:
Nugent Hopkins
Eberle
Perron
Yakupov
Schultz
Scrivens

For these pieces:
Veteran #1 Centre (Joe Thornton?)
Veteran #1 D (Keith Yandle?)
Veteran #2/3 D
Veteran #1 G

Clarkson
Kadri
Gardiner
Reimer
3rd rd pick

for

Eberle
Nurse
Gordon
Fasth
2nd rd pick

After everything your fan base has been through the last few years, I think the one thing that they can't take a chance on is trading away that pick and having it end up top 3.

None of the deals mentioned is guaranteed to give Edmonton enough of a boost that they get out of the bottom 3. The proposed deals *might* help, or the team, as-is, may turn it around on their own.

When I hear what is being offered, I am leaning towards the Oilers waiting until the off-season to make a move or, wait until we see what is out there at the trade deadline.
- Aetherial

If we trade that pick it will only happen at the draft and it is only for a kings ransom.

Sutter is outscoring Perron this year. Maybe he has started putting the offensive side together(I don't watch the Pens)? I know he's had a couple of seasons close to 40 points and is a responsible player. He would allow us to send down Draisaitl.
- Dangles13

Alot of far inferior players are outscoring perron.

29, 32, 26 is not close to 40.


We would be getting robbed. We could get a comparable player for picks and prospects if we really want a grinder at 3c so we're able to send draisaitl down

so one of McDavid, Eichel or Hanifin + Perron + something else?
- SpoiledByOil

I'm assuming that making that kind of trade puts us out of the running for the top 3 picks. Although a coaching change might also be necessary to make that happen.

Clarkson
Kadri
Gardiner
Reimer
3rd rd pick

for

Eberle
Nurse
Gordon
Fasth
2nd rd pick
- H8terade

Surprised you didn't throw the first in there for fun

Clarkson
Kadri
Gardiner
Reimer
3rd rd pick

for

Eberle
Nurse
Gordon
Fasth
2nd rd pick
- H8terade

Thanks for coming out...

Surprised you didn't throw the first in there for fun
- ystoil

Trying to keep it realistic!

If we trade that pick it will only happen at the draft and it is only for a kings ransom.
- Oilfan19

if we end up with that 1st round pick, I am not sure what it would take to trade it..this kid ( McDavid ) is scoring at a better rate than Crosby was correct?..do you trade that kind of talent?

Agreed that they arent necessarily a fit - but i really dont think anisimov is gonna solve the centre issue either. Realistically i dunno if perron alone is really gonna solve any of the issues.

Here's a question though - if Draisaitl is ready for full time 2nd line centre duties next year (hypothecially) would you want a third line that is prime for exploitation minutes and secondary (or tertiary i guess) scoring or one that is more of a shutdown line?
- Joel_Eh

Idk if AA is either. Thats hard to say, I think it would need to be more of a shutdown line.

Alot of far inferior players are outscoring perron.

29, 32, 26 is not close to 40.


We would be getting robbed. We could get a comparable player for picks and prospects if we really want a grinder at 3c so we're able to send draisaitl down
- hugefemale dog77

He had a 40 point season and I would argue that 32 is close enough. I'm not saying it is the right thing but I don't think it's the worst trade we could make and I'm definitely not doing it straight up.

if we end up with that 1st round pick, I am not sure what it would take to trade it..this kid ( McDavid ) is scoring at a better rate than Crosby was correct?..do you trade that kind of talent?
- yakattack

Hes just under 3 PPG.
It's nutty.

He scored over a PPG as a 15 year old rookie in junior for eff sakes.

if we end up with that 1st round pick, I am not sure what it would take to trade it..this kid ( McDavid ) is scoring at a better rate than Crosby was correct?..do you trade that kind of talent?
- yakattack

My point was that it's not being traded during the season. And it would have to be some sort of a Weber+ deal and I doubt it would make sense.

He had a 40 point season and I would argue that 32 is close enough. I'm not saying it is the right thing but I don't think it's the worst trade we could make and I'm definitely not doing it straight up.
- Dangles13

32 is not close enough .

32 is not close enough .
- Oilfan19

If we were talking about an Oiler player I bet it would...

Idk if AA is either. Thats hard to say, I think it would need to be more of a shutdown line.
- Oilfan19

I think that determination will impact the type of 2/3 line C you need...anisimov is great for that shutdown line maybe not so much for an exploitation line.

Either way it'll be interesting to see the oilers roster next year - but if all they do is sign depth d and a few pluggers its gonna be another rough year.

Surprised you didn't throw the first in there for fun
- ystoil

basically all the Leafs garbage for Eberle and Nurse, seems fair??

If we were talking about an Oiler player I bet it would...
- Dangles13

No if it were an Oiler player it would be closer to 15...

I think that determination will impact the type of 2/3 line C you need...anisimov is great for that shutdown line maybe not so much for an exploitation line.

Either way it'll be interesting to see the oilers roster next year - but if all they do is sign depth d and a few pluggers its gonna be another rough year.
- Joel_Eh

Mac-T tried to bring in some higher end player but couldnt get the interest out of em. As embarrassing as another #1 pick would be, McDavid and yak would be an unbelievable 2nd line.

No if it were an Oiler player it would be closer to 15...
- Oilfan19

True and he'd be a bust.

Mac-T tried to bring in some higher end player but couldnt get the interest out of em. As embarrassing as another #1 pick would be, McDavid and yak would be an unbelievable 2nd line.
- Oilfan19

In four years Ya, but not anytime soon.

Sutter is outscoring Perron this year. Maybe he has started putting the offensive side together(I don't watch the Pens)? I know he's had a couple of seasons close to 40 points and is a responsible player. He would allow us to send down Draisaitl.
- Dangles13

is he? well let's forget the previous 400 career games and focus on the 20 this year.

Sutter's a 3C and not even a great one. EDM would never do that

It would not be all that bad of a deal for us. Sutter is 25 and Perron is 26. Sutter is a few K cheaper than Perron and both contracts expire after next year. Sutter has size at 6'3 and 190lbs. Perron is the better scorer but Sutter plays center which we need.
- Dangles13

Exactly. Cs are hard to get and Sutter is in top form right now. We'd add another piece to the deal.

Perron for Sutter+Samuelsson would probably work.

A C and a defensive D ready to play.

In four years Ya, but not anytime soon.
- LeftCoaster

I got time to wait it out... I think