I would do that
- rufeo

I'll bet

I would do that
- rufeo

off course you would but this deal would be for Eberle and not Perron.

off course you would but this deal would be for Eberle and not Perron.
- Barnaby36

Ehrhoff is on an expiring contract and I don't feel like he would resign in Edmonton so I would not be comfortable giving up Eberle.

Perron is not being dealt for Brandon sutter

Perron is not being dealt for Brandon sutter
- hugefemale dog77

That would be stupid on MacT's part, the Oilers need a better player than him.

That would be stupid on MacT's part, the Oilers need a better player than him.
- LeftCoaster

Which the Canucks can't offer

I feel like Oiler fans have a very different idea of a return for Perron than the rest of the league - actually it seems like even Oiler fans are kind of divided as to his value...not sure which side is right but it'll be interesting to see what a 50-60 pt winger gets in return.
- Joel_Eh

his value a little over a year ago was paajarvi and a 2nd.

the wiercioch/smith offer seems a little light, but not that far off.

Perron is not being dealt for Brandon sutter
- hugefemale dog77

I bet he would. Off course we'd have to add a small piece to make it work.

We will not be moving the 1st. We should've moved it in October for an impact player but it's a tough deal to make due to teams not wanting to give up an impact player this early.

We will once again pick top 5. I'm sure Mac T will re-evaluate in the summer. Perron likely does get moved but it won't improve the team enough to get out of the basement IMO.

Perron for Anisimov and hope for the best next year.

Perron is not being dealt for Brandon sutter
- hugefemale dog77

It would not be all that bad of a deal for us. Sutter is 25 and Perron is 26. Sutter is a few K cheaper than Perron and both contracts expire after next year. Sutter has size at 6'3 and 190lbs. Perron is the better scorer but Sutter plays center which we need.

That would be stupid on MacT's part, the Oilers need a better player than him.
- LeftCoaster

The oilers are losing so we should sell low. That's how we'll get better.
I must've wrote this post ten times in the last week because it's the best way to show how silly it all is.

Brandon sutter does not solve any of our problems.
U wanna deal him for a middling pick or a prospect? sure.
But we have no interest in trading David Perron for him

his value a little over a year ago was paajarvi and a 2nd.

the wiercioch/smith offer seems a little light, but not that far off.
- Tumbleweed

We can argue about value all we want. That deal just doesnt fit what we need. If we trade Perron its a player for player trade, not a 1 for 2.

Which the Canucks can't offer
- Barnaby36

They don't typically trade with each other unless it's a minor deal like you saw last week. Division rival thing...Ya know.

off course you would but this deal would be for Eberle and not Perron.
- Barnaby36

I would trade. Perron , Petry, with late pick (3) for Sutter and Ehrhoff

I'd like to see:

2015 1st
Perron
- Probably something else

for

Yandle
Vermette
- rathagor

I would never trade that 1st if I am Edmonton, but if they were intent on making that deal, I would want Hanzal instead of Vermette.

It would not be all that bad of a deal for us. Sutter is 25 and Perron is 26. Sutter is a few K cheaper than Perron and both contracts expire after next year. Sutter has size at 6'3 and 190lbs. Perron is the better scorer but Sutter plays center which we need.
- Dangles13

Sutter doesn't change anything on this team in the short term.
he can't play 2c. Even marginally well.

And the next year, we have a glut of centers and are weaker and thinner on the wing.

If we're Gonna make a move, sutter and a 3rd doesn't make us better.
As I said; I'd consider putting him on the 3rd next year and give draisaitl/yakimov another year. But for a middling pick/prospect

I would trade. Perron , Petry, with late pick (3) for Sutter and Ehrhoff
- rufeo

Nooo.

The oilers are losing so we should sell low. That's how we'll get better.
I must've wrote this post ten times in the last week because it's the best way to show how silly it all is.

Brandon sutter does not solve any of our problems.
U wanna deal him for a middling pick or a prospect? sure.
But we have no interest in trading David Perron for him
- hugefemale dog77

That's why I said it would be stupid

his value a little over a year ago was paajarvi and a 2nd.

the wiercioch/smith offer seems a little light, but not that far off.
- Tumbleweed

I agree - but from what i've seen on these boards most deals anywhere near that get laughed off. For example, if i said the habs would offer Desharnais + a nearly NHL ready D prospect i'd likely get laughed at. Not saying thats a great deal for the Oil but it is a second-ish line C who puts up very similar numbers to Perron and a D who while not necessarily what the Oilers really need can't hurt them...or if it was a pick rather than a D.

All this to say - i dont think trading Perron is the right move. Eberle is what will get you a lot closer to what you need as far as pieces go. Or wait till the offseason since it seems as if this season is done for anyways.

I wold never trade that 1st if I am Edmonton, but if they were intent on making that deal, I would want Hanzal instead of Vermette.
- Aetherial

Well said.

3 weeks ago, I was all about it. There was still a chance to save this season
Now we can see mcdavid and Eichel reasonably clearly.
We can't risk losing value on it.

Sutter doesn't change anything on this team in the short term.
And he can't play 2c. Even marginally well.

And the next year, we have a glut of centers and are weaker and thinner on the wing.

If we're Gina a make a move, sutter and a 3rd doesn't make us better short or long term.
- hugefemale dog77

Sutter is outscoring Perron this year. Maybe he has started putting the offensive side together(I don't watch the Pens)? I know he's had a couple of seasons close to 40 points and is a responsible player. He would allow us to send down Draisaitl.

I agree - but from what i've seen on these boards most deals anywhere near that get laughed off by oil fans. For example, if i said the habs would offer Desharnais + a nearly NHL ready D prospect i'd likely get laughed at. Not saying thats a great deal for the Oil but it is a second-ish line C who puts up very similar numbers to Perron and a D who while not necessarily what the Oilers really need can't hurt them...or if it was a pick rather than a D.

All this to say - i dont think trading Perron is the right move. Eberle is what will get you a lot closer to what you need as far as pieces go. Or wait till the offseason since it seems as if this season is done for anyways.
- Joel_Eh

The problem is DD doesnt fit the player we need down the middle. We need a bigger C, not add another smaller one. Value could be there with these trades but that doesnt mean it makes it a fit.

Well said.

3 weeks ago, I was all about it. There was still a chance to save this season
Now we can see mcdavid and Eichel reasonably clearly.
We can't risk losing value on it.
- hugefemale dog77

After everything your fan base has been through the last few years, I think the one thing that they can't take a chance on is trading away that pick and having it end up top 3.

None of the deals mentioned is guaranteed to give Edmonton enough of a boost that they get out of the bottom 3. The proposed deals *might* help, or the team, as-is, may turn it around on their own.

When I hear what is being offered, I am leaning towards the Oilers waiting until the off-season to make a move or, wait until we see what is out there at the trade deadline.

Sutter is outscoring Perron this year. Maybe he has started putting the offensive side together(I don't watch the Pens)? I know he's had a couple of seasons close to 40 points and is a responsible player. He would allow us to send down Draisaitl.
- Dangles13

Been saying this since day 1, shoudlv'e sent him down after 9 games. Up to Mac T to find a replacement and not develop a 19 year old by playing him 8 min a night.

The pens would never trade Sutter for Perronl. Sutter plays the entire length of the ice, can score, hit, kill penalties, shadow the other teams best player, block shots etc. Perron is one dimensional, he's a winger and struggling to score.