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Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:58 PM ET
Thats a good offer.
- forbetterorWORSE

Value wise it's good, still doesnt help our main needs though.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 28 @ 1:58 PM ET
Ottawa model.

Step 1) Draft and develop players
Step 2) Have some success.
Step 3) Let all your best players walk for nothing or trade them for minimal value.
Step 4) Toil in mediocrity with the Leafs.

- Tumbleweed


Bang On good sir.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
That's what you're not understanding. I'm not saying trade them for junk.

Im saying trade offense for defense and spread out your talent. YOu have all your eggs in the offense basket right now, and literally nothing in the back end. Now all of your star power is stuck trying to play defense- which is counterproductive.

If you're so hot on RNH, then keep him and trade Eberle.

Pick which 3 of the below you want to keep, and trade the rest to address the needs of your team. It isn't rocket science.

RNH
Eberle
Hall
Draisaitl
Yakupov
Perron
Pouliot

- Jordo


Of course the wingers are more available right now.
That's where we have depth.
Not at center It would insanity to trade nuge at present. Let's just get off this convo.



Once we get the pick, we can reevaluate

Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
"So you won't let us rip you off??!!"
"No wonder you're team is bad. You should be ashamed"


Forgetting for a second that we're posters on hb and not actually the decision makers.........oh yeah that.
But the logic of these guys is too funny. not only do they think they're clever, they even think their ideas might be fresh.
Ignorance is bliss I guess..

- hugefemale dog77


I don't think it's fresh. In fact it's so overwhelmingly obvious that I don't understand why passionate Oilers fans haven't torched the management group yet.

You have to trade talent for talent. Bring in Yandle, Bring in Thornton, bring in whomever is available- but you have to pay the price for it in guys that you may value- you can't assume that you can just toss junk at teams and they'll hand you big pieces.

The most confusing part to me is that you have so many assets to bring in big pieces, but it just seems like there's an overwhelming hesitancy to move them.
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Nov 28 @ 2:00 PM ET
Ottawa model.

Step 1) Draft and develop players
Step 2) Have some success.
Step 3) Let all your best players walk for nothing or trade them for minimal value.
Step 4) Toil in mediocrity with the Leafs.

- Tumbleweed


Hey, at least we sniff the playoffs, huh Leafs fan!?
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
Of course the wingers are more available right now.
That's where we have depth.
Not at center It would insanity to trade nuge at present. Let's just get off this convo.



Once we get the pick, we can reevaluate

- hugefemale dog77


Lets trade Hall, Nuge and Eberle for Lehner, Smith and Methot.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 2:01 PM ET
That's what you're not understanding. I'm not saying trade them for junk.

Im saying trade offense for defense and spread out your talent. YOu have all your eggs in the offense basket right now, and literally nothing in the back end. Now all of your star power is stuck trying to play defense- which is counterproductive.

If you're so hot on RNH, then keep him and trade Eberle.

Pick which 3 of the below you want to keep, and trade the rest to address the needs of your team. It isn't rocket science.

RNH
Eberle
Hall
Draisaitl
Yakupov
Perron
Pouliot

- Jordo

RNH
Hall
only need 2 keepers

Trade the rest. The 2 problems you are missing is that 1. we HB poster's (at least us oiler fans) don't actually get to make trades for the team, crazy right? and 2. What Dman would you say is available that is a Top pairing guy?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 2:03 PM ET
I don't think it's fresh. In fact it's so overwhelmingly obvious that I don't understand why passionate Oilers fans haven't torched the management group yet.

You have to trade talent for talent. Bring in Yandle, Bring in Thornton, bring in whomever is available- but you have to pay the price for it in guys that you may value- you can't assume that you can just toss junk at teams and they'll hand you big pieces.

The most confusing part to me is that you have so many assets to bring in big pieces, but it just seems like there's an overwhelming hesitancy to move them.

- Jordo

Now we all know your an idiot. Fans have bought billboards in the city trying to get management fired. Do some research before say stupid poop.

And you act like these deals are actively available to the oilers. Thornton has a no trade. Yandle is a big piece of Arizonas core that they would not just throw away at the drop of a hat.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 28 @ 2:03 PM ET
Hey, at least we sniff the playoffs, huh Leafs fan!?
- Jordo


couldn't think of a better definition of mediocre.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Nov 28 @ 2:04 PM ET
You're right- Wideman is an AHL player- he's leading the league in points, as a defenseman....

Smith is better than any centre on your roster not named Nugent Hopkins.

Lehner is far better than both of your goalies

and Stone is trending way upwards- to the point I'm not sure I'd want to trade him.

I'd love to have Eberle, but I don't really have any interest in Perron.

- Jordo


1. Remember a certain oiler defenseman that lead the AHL in points? Even Brad Hunt was an AHL all star last season.

2. Smith is no where near a top 6 center.

3. We don't need bottom 6 wingers.


I love how people try to sell us on how good the guys they are trying to get rid of are.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 28 @ 2:05 PM ET
Now we all know your an idiot. Fans have bought billboards in the city trying to get management fired. Do some research before say stupid poop.
- Oilfan19

Get out of here with your facts!
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 28 @ 2:06 PM ET
1. Remember a certain oiler defenseman that lead the AHL in points? Even Brad Hunt was an AHL all star last season.

2. Smith is no where near a top 6 center.

3. We don't need bottom 6 wingers.


I love how people try to sell us on how good the guys they are trying to get rid of are.

- Iggysbff


"I like the Oilers and I want this trade to work for both teams. Eberle for Scuderi and Sutter."
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 2:07 PM ET
Get out of here with your facts!
- ChetManly

Good thing work is slow today
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
"I like the Oilers and I want this trade to work for both teams. Eberle for Scuderi and Sutter."
- Dangles13

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
I don't think it's fresh. In fact it's so overwhelmingly obvious that I don't understand why passionate Oilers fans haven't torched the management group yet.

You have to trade talent for talent. Bring in Yandle, Bring in Thornton, bring in whomever is available- but you have to pay the price for it in guys that you may value- you can't assume that you can just toss junk at teams and they'll hand you big pieces.

The most confusing part to me is that you have so many assets to bring in big pieces, but it just seems like there's an overwhelming hesitancy to move them.

- Jordo

Thornton won't waive to play in Edm. Neither will staal. Neither would miller last year. Etc etc.. Ud know this if u paid attention .

and again; for the millionth time. Your conventional wisdom u learnt somewhere is so flawed. U need to rethink it before u post.
Mact is in a position of weakness. We know this. Gm's are trying to take advantage of this situation. If any of the rumours have truth to them. This is apparent.
That said; it's not simple. they don't help us.
So don't do it Mact. just cause we're bad doesn't mean we're going to deal Ebs for a plug and a pick.
That return and a fair return are nowhere near the same ballpark.u talk about us offering junk? How so? I think uve got this completely backwards.

U can say "the solution is simple", or quote dregers nonsense, or play the shame card till your blue in the face. It's not gonna make your post any more logical
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Nov 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
RNH
Hall
only need 2 keepers

Trade the rest. The 2 problems you are missing is that 1. we HB poster's (at least us oiler fans) don't actually get to make trades for the team, crazy right? and 2. What Dman would you say is available that is a Top pairing guy?

- Oilfan19


Paul martin. Although he would never wave his MNTC to go to edmonton
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
Good thing work is slow today
- Oilfan19

I've spent all morning online shopping waiting for my 24 hour Yeti to finish.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Nov 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
Ottawa model.

Step 1) Draft and develop players
Step 2) Have some success.
Step 3) Let all your best players walk for nothing or trade them for minimal value.
Step 4) Toil in mediocrity with the Leafs.

- Tumbleweed


i feel like i should be insulted, but that's actually really funny.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
Paul martin. Although he would never wave his MNTC to go to edmonton
- znagle

I wouldnt mind Martin as a #3
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Nov 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
Lets trade Hall, Nuge and Eberle for Lehner, Smith and Methot.
- Dangles13


we could atleast be fair and like throw in pageau or something.................he is the next giroux.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
Paul martin. Although he would never wave his MNTC to go to edmonton
- znagle

meh.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 2:10 PM ET
1. Remember a certain oiler defenseman that lead the AHL in points? Even Brad Hunt was an AHL all star last season.

2. Smith is no where near a top 6 center.

3. We don't need bottom 6 wingers.


I love how people try to sell us on how good the guys they are trying to get rid of are.

- Iggysbff

Don't want to generalize every post, but I've noticed that if buddy is immediately trying to sell you on the positives of the deal. The only real positives are in his favour
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 2:11 PM ET
I've spent all morning online shopping waiting for my 24 hour Yeti to finish.
- ChetManly

I've been trying to stay away from online shopping. All my money is going to be going towards my newborn
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 28 @ 2:11 PM ET
we could atleast be fair and like throw in pageau or something.................he is the next giroux.
- sensarmy_11

give us back Lazar
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Nov 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
I've been trying to stay away from online shopping. All my money is going to be going towards my newborn
- Oilfan19

When's the mini OilFan19 supposed to arrive?

Yeah, I've only been looking for specific items. Purchased some computer stuff. Spent a poop ton on money on Steam today. I won't have to worry about buying any game any time soon!
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