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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:43 PM ET
Wanna know who's misinformed? Craig MacTavish and the entire Edmonton management. They've let a rebuild go on for 7 years and have accumulated immense talent but has no idea what to do with it or how to build a successful hockey team.

It's embarrassing, and as a fan of the Oilers I'd be incredibly (frank)ing embarrassed.

- Jordo



just when i thought i couldn't take you any less serious. You know what's even more embarrassing? Never winning anything, ever. That's pretty embarrassing too
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
Have you actually seen Nugent Hopkins without equipment on? He's listed at 190 lbs, but that is a gross exaggeration. MacKinnon is twice his size, that kid is built like a (frank)ing ox.
- Jordo



Nuge is a lot bigger this year since he had a summer of working out without injury.

what about Zetterberg? Datsyuk?
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:45 PM ET
Our problem is C depth, why throw what little depth we could have next year out the window?
- Oilfan19


Because your model doesn't work. Do you really just want to keep re-living this annual nightmare? You've been so desperate for defense for so long. Can you please just address it and get better, so teams that actually need to rebuild can get some star players too?

It's a shame seeing all of this talent rotting in Edmonton.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
Because your model doesn't work. Do you really just want to keep re-living this annual nightmare? You've been so desperate for defense for so long. Can you please just address it and get better, so teams that actually need to rebuild can get some star players too?

It's a shame seeing all of this talent rotting in Edmonton.

- Jordo



Please tell me the Ottawa model so that we can be as successful as you. Please, teach us your ways oh wise one.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
Wanna know who's misinformed? Craig MacTavish and the entire Edmonton management. They've let a rebuild go on for 7 years and have accumulated immense talent but has no idea what to do with it or how to build a successful hockey team.

It's embarrassing, and as a fan of the Oilers I'd be incredibly (frank)ing embarrassed.

- Jordo

Just. So. Bad.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:46 PM ET

- Oilfan19

Thats gotta be closer.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
Because your model doesn't work. Do you really just want to keep re-living this annual nightmare? You've been so desperate for defense for so long. Can you please just address it and get better, so teams that actually need to rebuild can get some star players too?

It's a shame seeing all of this talent rotting in Edmonton.

- Jordo

Our biggest need is at C and our brutal lack of C depth...

That line is a new one, havent seen it in like 3 pages...
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Nov 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
Wanna know who's misinformed? Craig MacTavish and the entire Edmonton management. They've let a rebuild go on for 7 years and have accumulated immense talent but has no idea what to do with it or how to build a successful hockey team.

It's embarrassing, and as a fan of the Oilers I'd be incredibly (frank)ing embarrassed.

- Jordo


you won't find many happy oiler fans. Doesn't change that you are seriously off base with your ideas
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 28 @ 1:47 PM ET
Because your model doesn't work. Do you really just want to keep re-living this annual nightmare? You've been so desperate for defense for so long. Can you please just address it and get better, so teams that actually need to rebuild can get some star players too?

It's a shame seeing all of this talent rotting in Edmonton.

- Jordo


So 0 NHL centers = Success? Man are so many NHL gms retards.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:47 PM ET
Thats gotta be closer.
- forbetterorWORSE

I like Lazar, but imo we aren't good trade partners. We need an experienced C and an experienced D.
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
just when i thought i couldn't take you any less serious. You know what's even more embarrassing? Never winning anything, ever. That's pretty embarrassing too
- SpoiledByOil


Our 11 Stanley Cups prior to 1927 are as about as relevant as your 5 prior to 1990. Why don't we argue in the sense of things that happened within the last 25 years?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
Our 11 Stanley Cups prior to 1927 are as about as relevant as your 5 prior to 1990. Why don't we argue in the sense of things that happened within the last 25 years?
- Jordo

So 1-0 for stanley cups?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
you won't find many happy oiler fans. Doesn't change that you are seriously off base with your ideas
- TheNugeIsHuge

Who convinced this guy that he had the first idea of what he's talking about?

That person needs to be slapped
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
I like Lazar, but imo we aren't good trade partners. We need an experienced C and an experienced D.
- Oilfan19

Methot, Lazar, Lehner, Zibanejad for Eberle and Perron.
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
Just. So. Bad.
- hugefemale dog77


What exactly is so bad?

Are you happy with where the Oilers have been for the past decade?

It's like you've just come to accept the fact that you will be mediocre forever.
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
Methot, Lazar, Lehner, Zibanejad for Eberle and Perron.
- forbetterorWORSE


Better throw in Karlsson too.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
Methot, Lazar, Lehner, Zibanejad for Eberle and Perron.
- forbetterorWORSE

are you trying to get in my pants with that offer?
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
Methot, Lazar, Lehner, Zibanejad for Eberle and Perron.
- forbetterorWORSE



Honestly, i think the only player i would realistically want from Ott would be Lehner, what would you need for him?
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
What exactly is so bad?

Are you happy with where the Oilers have been for the past decade?

It's like you've just come to accept the fact that you will be mediocre forever.

- Jordo

Let me finish this sentence for you cause we've heard it a million times. "You guys need to trade away your players for our junk guys so you can get better, don't worry about what your actual needs as a hockey team are, take our mid picks and awful contracts to get better."
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:53 PM ET
Methot, Lazar, Lehner, Zibanejad for Eberle and Perron.
- forbetterorWORSE
now you see what we see.

So u guys wanna the pot or the kettle?
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
are you trying to get in my pants with that offer?
- Oilfan19

Thats a good offer.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
now you see what we see.

So u guys wanna the pot or the kettle?

- hugefemale dog77

??
Jordo
Ottawa Senators
Location: 40 minute busride from downtow, ON
Joined: 06.27.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
Let me finish this sentence for you cause we've heard it a million times. "You guys need to trade away your players for our junk guys so you can get better, don't worry about what your actual needs as a hockey team are, take our mid picks and awful contracts to get better."
- Oilfan19


That's what you're not understanding. I'm not saying trade them for junk.

Im saying trade offense for defense and spread out your talent. YOu have all your eggs in the offense basket right now, and literally nothing in the back end. Now all of your star power is stuck trying to play defense- which is counterproductive.

If you're so hot on RNH, then keep him and trade Eberle.

Pick which 3 of the below you want to keep, and trade the rest to address the needs of your team. It isn't rocket science.

RNH
Eberle
Hall
Draisaitl
Yakupov
Perron
Pouliot
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 1:56 PM ET
Let me finish this sentence for you cause we've heard it a million times. "You guys need to trade away your players for our junk guys so you can get better, don't worry about what your actual needs as a hockey team are, take our mid picks and awful contracts to get better."
- Oilfan19

"So you won't let us rip you off??!!"
"No wonder you're team is bad. You should be ashamed"


Forgetting for a second that we're posters on hb and not actually the decision makers.........oh yeah that.
But the logic of these guys is too funny. not only do they think they're clever, they even think their ideas might be fresh.
Ignorance is bliss I guess..
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:57 PM ET
Please tell me the Ottawa model so that we can be as successful as you. Please, teach us your ways oh wise one.
- SpoiledByOil


Ottawa model.

Step 1) Draft and develop players
Step 2) Have some success.
Step 3) Let all your best players walk for nothing or trade them for minimal value.
Step 4) Toil in mediocrity with the Leafs.

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