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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:38 AM ET
i agree with the call against Lehtera, i thought both were going to go, but it is the way it is. 3rd man in rule. i say agree on the fact it was bs. call it on both parties or no call should be made. on the other parts i cant really remember them that much so i will not discuss those plays as i cannot make a truthful and non biased decision
- BluesDroogie

Third man in rule would have been one of the two Wild players. But the rule actually pertains to a fight not a scrum. The result of a third man in is a game misconduct supposedly.

BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:55 AM ET
Man I did not realize Tdberta was comparing me to that coward and traitor. I did not pick up on the name Beau at first.

I am very proud of what I did even though at times I hurt so much it and it angers me. I am saying this not so much for myself as others who will not say anything but only suck it up and hurt inside. But no one, really has a right to put any of us down for having opinions on what we did. It is confusing. We had to take care of people at one moment, in another some of them were trying to kill us usually by planting bombs and then at other times I was kicking in their doors. One thing I remember was seeing a man in his sixties waking up and looking up the barrel of my weapon, closing his eyes going back into a gentle sleep and then suddenly turning back towards me with wide eyes and fright.

I lost close friends. One moment it seems like it all makes sense. The next moment you are thinking why did anyone die. When you see a bomb or a missle from a plane go off on tv it is awe inspiring. When you see it live and the ground shakes with such depth you think the world is falling apart; Imagine wondering what that destruction did to children on those days you are feeling down and guilty. Imagine it, survivor's guilt, not feeling like you fit in with the world that was your home and thinking about killing yourself because you cannot sleep at night, because your back hurts so much, because you go into a room searching for threats see the biggest meanest dude and figure how you will kill them if you need to, where the escape routes could be, what if this bad thing happens or that bad thing happens because for over a year straight, every time you deployed your mind did this to survive. That at least is what you thought you needed to do to survive. Many have had it far worst than I have by a long country mile. I do not seek pity, sympathy from a single soul. I had a decent idea of what I was going into and still my mind was blown. At once terrible and beautiful war shows the lowest of human beings and the heightest levels of self-sacrifice and love one person can have for another.

So if anyone feels that if tomorrow I say it was all a mistake(which I do not think is the case), that I am somehow a traitor or a coward or unintelligent, please have the dignity to ask to meet in person to deliver that message.

I will now try to never, ever bring up the subject of war again. I know it must be old for you all. I know I sound too often like a negative person and a complainer.

one last thing no one ever, ever again in any way whether you think it might be funny or you think it makes you sound clever compare me to a piece of crap traitor. I hope I never cross paths with Beau. If I were to do so I would kick his teeth in.

fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 30 @ 4:23 AM ET
Thoughts on the Shatty major?
- stljam


No way was that a game misconduct. They want to call boarding fine, but that was not that hard of a hit. It's Shattenkirk for God sakes. The guy's probably not been called for more than three cross checks his whole life.
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 30 @ 4:34 AM ET
Man I did not realize Tdberta was comparing me to that coward and traitor. I did not pick up on the name Beau at first.

I am very proud of what I did even though at times I hurt so much it and it angers me. I am saying this not so much for myself as others who will not say anything but only suck it up and hurt inside. But no one, really has a right to put any of us down for having opinions on what we did. It is confusing. We had to take care of people at one moment, in another some of them were trying to kill us usually by planting bombs and then at other times I was kicking in their doors. One thing I remember was seeing a man in his sixties waking up and looking up the barrel of my weapon, closing his eyes going back into a gentle sleep and then suddenly turning back towards me with wide eyes and fright.

I lost close friends. One moment it seems like it all makes sense. The next moment you are thinking why did anyone die. When you see a bomb or a missle from a plane go off on tv it is awe inspiring. When you see it live and the ground shakes with such depth you think the world is falling apart; Imagine wondering what that destruction did to children on those days you are feeling down and guilty. Imagine it, survivor's guilt, not feeling like you fit in with the world that was your home and thinking about killing yourself because you cannot sleep at night, because your back hurts so much, because you go into a room searching for threats see the biggest meanest dude and figure how you will kill them if you need to, where the escape routes could be, what if this bad thing happens or that bad thing happens because for over a year straight, every time you deployed your mind did this to survive. That at least is what you thought you needed to do to survive. Many have had it far worst than I have by a long country mile. I do not seek pity, sympathy from a single soul. I had a decent idea of what I was going into and still my mind was blown. At once terrible and beautiful war shows the lowest of human beings and the heightest levels of self-sacrifice and love one person can have for another.

So if anyone feels that if tomorrow I say it was all a mistake(which I do not think is the case), that I am somehow a traitor or a coward or unintelligent, please have the dignity to ask to meet in person to deliver that message.

I will now try to never, ever bring up the subject of war again. I know it must be old for you all. I know I sound too often like a negative person and a complainer.

one last thing no one ever, ever again in any way whether you think it might be funny or you think it makes you sound clever compare me to a piece of crap traitor. I hope I never cross paths with Beau. If I were to do so I would kick his teeth in.


- BluemanGuruu


I hope you didn't take offense to that crack I made the other day about carcus, I was just trying to get a rise out of him. I agree though, the Bergdahl comment was out of line.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 30 @ 11:58 AM ET
Man I did not realize Tdberta was comparing me to that coward and traitor. I did not pick up on the name Beau at first.

I am very proud of what I did even though at times I hurt so much it and it angers me. I am saying this not so much for myself as others who will not say anything but only suck it up and hurt inside. But no one, really has a right to put any of us down for having opinions on what we did. It is confusing. We had to take care of people at one moment, in another some of them were trying to kill us usually by planting bombs and then at other times I was kicking in their doors. One thing I remember was seeing a man in his sixties waking up and looking up the barrel of my weapon, closing his eyes going back into a gentle sleep and then suddenly turning back towards me with wide eyes and fright.

I lost close friends. One moment it seems like it all makes sense. The next moment you are thinking why did anyone die. When you see a bomb or a missle from a plane go off on tv it is awe inspiring. When you see it live and the ground shakes with such depth you think the world is falling apart; Imagine wondering what that destruction did to children on those days you are feeling down and guilty. Imagine it, survivor's guilt, not feeling like you fit in with the world that was your home and thinking about killing yourself because you cannot sleep at night, because your back hurts so much, because you go into a room searching for threats see the biggest meanest dude and figure how you will kill them if you need to, where the escape routes could be, what if this bad thing happens or that bad thing happens because for over a year straight, every time you deployed your mind did this to survive. That at least is what you thought you needed to do to survive. Many have had it far worst than I have by a long country mile. I do not seek pity, sympathy from a single soul. I had a decent idea of what I was going into and still my mind was blown. At once terrible and beautiful war shows the lowest of human beings and the heightest levels of self-sacrifice and love one person can have for another.

So if anyone feels that if tomorrow I say it was all a mistake(which I do not think is the case), that I am somehow a traitor or a coward or unintelligent, please have the dignity to ask to meet in person to deliver that message.

I will now try to never, ever bring up the subject of war again. I know it must be old for you all. I know I sound too often like a negative person and a complainer.

one last thing no one ever, ever again in any way whether you think it might be funny or you think it makes you sound clever compare me to a piece of crap traitor. I hope I never cross paths with Beau. If I were to do so I would kick his teeth in.


- BluemanGuruu


If there's one thing I've learned about internet tough guys (including myself at times) is that there is no filter on what they will and won't say. While I know that it's hard not to take a comment like that to heart, keep in mind that the guy is trying to get a rise out of you and may be drunk or not know you as well as some of us that have been reading your opinions and comments for years. Or he may just be a piece of poop who doesn't care about other people's situations.

Either way, his choice of comments is no reflection of you, but of him.

Jesus, do I sound like an NBC informative message or what?

The More You Know...
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
I hope you didn't take offense to that crack I made the other day about carcus, I was just trying to get a rise out of him. I agree though, the Bergdahl comment was out of line.
- fattyboubatty

No fatty we are friends. I have known you for seven odd years, albeit on the internet and emails.

Many times I I say the wrong thing or the right thing in the wrong way. I figured if tedberta is calling me beau bergdahl or trying to lecture me on geopolitics and put me down not about my opinion but about my service then I just would put it out there and move on.

Believe me there are people far worse off than I am. Too many will not ask for help. I did when I needed it. Now I am doing better. One thing I do is go to a group and those guys are all Vietnam vets. I have met and heard the same ways of feeling from WWII to the current conflicts.

From now I am sticking to hockey. I am deeply hurt that that turd buckey had something like that to say to me.

You the group of us who have been shooting the the poop abou the Blues for seven odd years is enjoyable. We see the game in different ways, it helps see the game fuller and we all are excited to see this team come from pure crap to prmosing heights.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:07 PM ET
If there's one thing I've learned about internet tough guys (including myself at times) is that there is no filter on what they will and won't say. While I know that it's hard not to take a comment like that to heart, keep in mind that the guy is trying to get a rise out of you and may be drunk or not know you as well as some of us that have been reading your opinions and comments for years. Or he may just be a piece of poop who doesn't care about other people's situations.

Either way, his choice of comments is no reflection of you, but of him.

Jesus, do I sound like an NBC informative message or what?

The More You Know...

- eggsegan

I have been guilty as well of going too far in the past, especially to a nice guy like carcus.

Great game by the Blues against the Wild. Makes you feel better seeing Allen in net when he olays like that.
Trust In Jarmo
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: The Columbus Blue Jackets are next in line...
Joined: 07.16.2009

Nov 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Guru,

Here's something to piss you off. My buddy ran into this a-hole

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sOj07ClhEi8
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 30 @ 4:07 PM ET
IMHO, he had terrible starting position on goals 2 and 3 and didn't get a good push off the post at all (even though the play should not have been to be down on the post with the puck that far out). Given that he did it twice, I hope that isn't a corsi strategy position as it will get abused in the nhl.

When the puck is that far out, there is no need to be tucked, down on the post.

- stljam


Try not to pick apart Allen's game too much until he gets some more games under his belt. I made the mistake of doing that with Bishop a few years back and look at him now. Things like positioning, coping with guys invading the crease, and staying focused mentally are all things he can improve on with time. He clearly has the talent to be a quality number 1 goalie.
Trust In Jarmo
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: The Columbus Blue Jackets are next in line...
Joined: 07.16.2009

Nov 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
Try not to pick apart Allen's game too much until he gets some more games under his belt. I made the mistake of doing that with Bishop a few years back and look at him now. Things like positioning, coping with guys invading the crease, and staying focused mentally are all things he can improve on with time. He clearly has the talent to be a quality number 1 goalie.
- fattyboubatty


Well said.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Nov 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
Try not to pick apart Allen's game too much until he gets some more games under his belt. I made the mistake of doing that with Bishop a few years back and look at him now. Things like positioning, coping with guys invading the crease, and staying focused mentally are all things he can improve on with time. He clearly has the talent to be a quality number 1 goalie.
- fattyboubatty


Thing is, I am not convinced it's Allen but rather might be a Corsi teaching, given that it was repeated. I'm just focusing on looking for patterns, not really judging.
All Blues
St Louis Blues
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 03.06.2008

Nov 30 @ 8:12 PM ET
With all of this talk of trading players & cap space, the cap is expected to go up to $71mil. With $56.3725 is accounted for right now, that leaves $14.6275 to re-sign the following players:


Restricted
:
Tarasenko*
Allen*
Paarvi*
Cole*

Unrestricted:
Lindstrom
Lapierre
Porter
Jackman

The only one's I'm concerned about getting signed before July 1st (offer sheets) are Allen & Tarasenko. Knowing Army's tendency not to give big $ contracts to younger players, I can see $8-10mil total to Allen & Tarasenko, leaving $4-6mil depending on cap growth. Not too concerned about the rest except getting Jackman on the cheap and assets for Cole/Paarvi if Blues mgt decides to part ways. Rattie/Jaskin/Lindbohm are all ready for NHL action.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:37 PM ET
Guru,

Here's something to piss you off. My buddy ran into this a-hole

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sOj07ClhEi8

- Trust In Jarmo


I have that on my facebook man. I get videos of these guys all of the time. Most of the guys handle it better than I probably could. I live near Ft. Leonard Wood and often times when I am out I see someone who actually is in the military wearing their uniforms wrong and my eye twitches. lol

Trust in Jarmo sorry for being a Richard to you. Just wished you stayed with us and did not leave. I will still give you crap though what has happened in COlumbus this year is crazy.

Too bad they have so much depth and cannot properly suck enough to land a top three pick. If they do land one of the top three they will destroy this league.

Remove the Kings part to your name though. Those butt clowns have robbed us of hope too many times and have a bunch of cheap players on their team.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:48 PM ET
With all of this talk of trading players & cap space, the cap is expected to go up to $71mil. With $56.3725 is accounted for right now, that leaves $14.6275 to re-sign the following players:


Restricted
:
Tarasenko*
Allen*
Paarvi*
Cole*

Unrestricted:
Lindstrom
Lapierre
Porter
Jackman

The only one's I'm concerned about getting signed before July 1st (offer sheets) are Allen & Tarasenko. Knowing Army's tendency not to give big $ contracts to younger players, I can see $8-10mil total to Allen & Tarasenko, leaving $4-6mil depending on cap growth. Not too concerned about the rest except getting Jackman on the cheap and assets for Cole/Paarvi if Blues mgt decides to part ways. Rattie/Jaskin/Lindbohm are all ready for NHL action.

- All Blues



After the time and money invested in Cole and his tremendous play with was predictable do you really think they would move him? Wouldn't they be more apt to try and move someone like JayBO or forwards from positions of depth and higher costs?

Tarasenko will get paid more than recent Blues graduates because he will have leverage and based on Armstrong's logic for being unwilling to pay Schwartz properly, he will have had more data to bank on. It would not be one good season in the bank plus potential.

It is still too early to tell concerning the cap situation but it does not look pretty with low oil prices effecting the weight placed in the cap to the Canadian dollar. More than likely Jackman will not be a Blue next season unless he takes a substantial hometown discount. If Butler keeps playing this way it will be hard to just let him walk as well. A lot of IFs and Buts, so it is really too early to tell.

My best guess is that the Blues are positioned to grab some picks from a deep draft. The problem if the cap does not go up very much for next season is that places a lot of teams in similar positions.

A lot can change from now to then. Maybe Pauly Walnuts ends up not enjoying playing for his home crowd. There is a lot that could change. But it bodes well if teams with deep pockets and willingness to make offer sheets do not have cap space. Then Armstrong can apply more pressure on Tarasenko and get maybe sometime at a cheaper rate before signing him long term.

I wonder if the owners have the ability to raise the cap as high as they would like despite the normal factors put in place. If that is the case it might happen because of all the top teams being squeezed for so long.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Nov 30 @ 8:51 PM ET
Try not to pick apart Allen's game too much until he gets some more games under his belt. I made the mistake of doing that with Bishop a few years back and look at him now. Things like positioning, coping with guys invading the crease, and staying focused mentally are all things he can improve on with time. He clearly has the talent to be a quality number 1 goalie.
- fattyboubatty

I got that one right as well

We could have had three Chaminade players on this team at the same time. But I have to admit Elliott minus a short period of time has been fantastic in his time here. I just wish they would have moved Halak sooner and kept Elliott. But we were all intrigued in what Halak could possibly do in the play offs. Of course for that to happen he would have had to been healthy.
Trust In Jarmo
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: The Columbus Blue Jackets are next in line...
Joined: 07.16.2009

Nov 30 @ 9:05 PM ET
I have that on my facebook man. I get videos of these guys all of the time. Most of the guys handle it better than I probably could. I live near Ft. Leonard Wood and often times when I am out I see someone who actually is in the military wearing their uniforms wrong and my eye twitches. lol

Trust in Jarmo sorry for being a Richard to you. Just wished you stayed with us and did not leave. I will still give you crap though what has happened in COlumbus this year is crazy.
.

- BluemanGuruu


No worries man.

bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Nov 30 @ 10:00 PM ET
Try not to pick apart Allen's game too much until he gets some more games under his belt. I made the mistake of doing that with Bishop a few years back and look at him now. Things like positioning, coping with guys invading the crease, and staying focused mentally are all things he can improve on with time. He clearly has the talent to be a quality number 1 goalie.
- fattyboubatty


+1.

Hockey is a young man's game except in goal. Experience seems to win out over youth because so much of the position is mental.

What I like about Allen is he just simply battles and tries to get a body part in front of the puck regardless of technique and style points.
All Blues
St Louis Blues
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 03.06.2008

Dec 1 @ 12:17 AM ET
After the time and money invested in Cole and his tremendous play with was predictable do you really think they would move him? Wouldn't they be more apt to try and move someone like JayBO or forwards from positions of depth and higher costs?

Tarasenko will get paid more than recent Blues graduates because he will have leverage and based on Armstrong's logic for being unwilling to pay Schwartz properly, he will have had more data to bank on. It would not be one good season in the bank plus potential.

It is still too early to tell concerning the cap situation but it does not look pretty with low oil prices effecting the weight placed in the cap to the Canadian dollar. More than likely Jackman will not be a Blue next season unless he takes a substantial hometown discount. If Butler keeps playing this way it will be hard to just let him walk as well. A lot of IFs and Buts, so it is really too early to tell.

My best guess is that the Blues are positioned to grab some picks from a deep draft. The problem if the cap does not go up very much for next season is that places a lot of teams in similar positions.

A lot can change from now to then. Maybe Pauly Walnuts ends up not enjoying playing for his home crowd. There is a lot that could change. But it bodes well if teams with deep pockets and willingness to make offer sheets do not have cap space. Then Armstrong can apply more pressure on Tarasenko and get maybe sometime at a cheaper rate before signing him long term.

I wonder if the owners have the ability to raise the cap as high as they would like despite the normal factors put in place. If that is the case it might happen because of all the top teams being squeezed for so long.

- BluemanGuruu


With the overall growth of the game (NYC/LA cup finals & many big market teams having success), the salary cap will go up next summer. No reason to move JayBo or any current player for cap space. Magnum PI & Cole will come cheap. Jackman is a 3rd pairing d'man: they don't make over $2mil in this league. Canadian oil revenue or whatever is irrelevant. $14mil+ in cap space is more than enough to get Allen, Tarasenko, Paarvi, Jackman, & Cole signed.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Dec 1 @ 12:30 AM ET
I would even be excited about a recap now. How about a weekly recap....

fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 1 @ 4:25 AM ET
I would even be excited about a recap now. How about a weekly recap....


- carcus



What pisses me off is when we get bumped off the front page.
Which we're about to.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Dec 1 @ 9:12 AM ET
I would even be excited about a recap now. How about a weekly recap....


- carcus


I am just glad I can leave for a week and not miss one BLOG not one.

This is getting ridiculous
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Dec 1 @ 11:17 AM ET
I am just glad I can leave for a week and not miss one BLOG not one.

This is getting ridiculous

- sycsam



No worries - he'll explain his absence (family issues), which is translated (this gig doesn't pay so I have better things to do).

I speak internets.


It's not like the Blues have anything going on right now, back to back OT/SO wins, Hall of Fame All time winning goal tender trying out for the team, division games this week.......

Nothing to see here.

sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Dec 1 @ 11:46 AM ET
No worries - he'll explain his absence (family issues), which is translated (this gig doesn't pay so I have better things to do).

I speak internets.


It's not like the Blues have anything going on right now, back to back OT/SO wins, Hall of Fame All time winning goal tender trying out for the team, division games this week.......

Nothing to see here.

- bcallaway


Yeh I spend more time i nthe hawks thread than I do the bluesx because it is so dead.

Wish we had a blogger like JJ
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Dec 1 @ 11:55 AM ET
Yeh I spend more time i nthe hawks thread than I do the bluesx because it is so dead.

Wish we had a blogger like JJ

- sycsam



JJ is great. He must not have a family.

BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 1 @ 12:02 PM ET
No worries - he'll explain his absence (family issues), which is translated (this gig doesn't pay so I have better things to do).

I speak internets.


It's not like the Blues have anything going on right now, back to back OT/SO wins, Hall of Fame All time winning goal tender trying out for the team, division games this week.......

Nothing to see here.

- bcallaway

But if you criticize him for his absense or trying to write political pieces instead of about hockey well then...

I vote stljam as the new Blues blogger.
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