Agreed. I (frank)ing hate that clown. Always acts tough when the refs are near, it's embarassing
- SourceS.V.P.

In many respects he is the new version of Tyson "turtle" Nash.

In many respects he is the new version of Tyson "turtle" Nash.
- stljam

That is his job. No one likes those type of players unless they are on your team upsetting the other team.

I just want to point out I sent an olive branch to Randal and he has not yet replied.
- BluemanGuruu

Yeah, well some might not take your olive branch as it has happened before and after apologies then happens again. It might mean more if you actually stop doing that going forward and don't repeat the behavior.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Yeah, well some might not take your olive branch as it has happened before and after apologies then happens again. It might mean more if you actually stop doing that going forward and don't repeat the behavior.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
- carcus

Carcus, you're such a baby. Do us a favor and keep the whining over on the hawks thread where it belongs. Guru didn't watch his buddies lie face down in the mud so you could come in here spreading your hippie BS.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Carcus, you're such a baby. Do us a favor and keep the whining over on the hawks thread where it belongs. Guru didn't watch his buddies lie face down in the mud so you could come in here spreading your hippie BS.

Happy Thanksgiving.
- fattyboubatty

Hippie BS???

Hippie BS???
- carcus

Just messin with you man.

That is his job. No one likes those type of players unless they are on your team upsetting the other team.
- BluemanGuruu

never liked nash....upset the other team but stand up like a man...Nash turtled and ran more than any player I have ever seen.

Give me Tikkanen, McCarty, etc. Nash was often a gutless punk in game giving out cheap shots without answering for them. I'll pass on that kind of player. Dish it out but be ready to take it as well. (note that none of this is any commentary on lapierre)

Butler shows he is not ready, Cole has played his way out of the lineup as far as i am concerned, and signing Brodeur for a short term would not be the worst move made by D.A.(cough cough Lappy, Ott) Don't really mind Ott as a sh*tdisturber but he was paid too much. Should of used some of that money to resign Sobotka.


Who is the 1st trade?

Berglund
Ott
Lapierre
Paajarvi
Cole
Butler (he can be replaced with Lindbohlm or Hakanpaa)

you guys can add other people but those are the ones that come to mind right now.


Can we add Oshie to the list, he sells alot of merch but does his play really effect the game that much that we cant trade him for something better? Bergy and Oshie could make a hell of a move and open some cap room for us to sign Tarasenko and Lehtera to decent long term deals while still getting something back in return.

Lapierre has always been an idiot. I've always respected players that talked and fought. Forget little whiney players that just don't shut their mouths. I think he is one of the reasons Ottawa stayed riled up.

Yet again we fail to finish a game. With the bruins game last week or so, it looked like we were playing l.a. or chicago in the playoffs, now we have the lead against a team we should beat and blow it in the 3rd.

Is this a sign of things to come?

Yeah, well some might not take your olive branch as it has happened before and after apologies then happens again. It might mean more if you actually stop doing that going forward and don't repeat the behavior.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
- carcus

The dude has been a total douche bag to me. I was by far not the only one to include you call him out for not writing blogs. I have learned to be patient and kind to you.

What part of what I had to say was so offensive anyway? Was it you do not want to hear about the stuff I saw? If so, then take the time to display some empathy with someone who has to remember that crap every day of his life and every night when you get to have a peaceful sleep(surely not every night but more often than not), keep in mind me and my brothers get to go back to Iraq and reexperience seeing people maimed and all messed up.

I did the right thing by appologizing and swallowing the poop. I was being kind. How come he did not harrass bcall or fatty? I guess it is just another empty thanks he gave on Veterans' Day.

And I would given the chance write a blog for you all even when I have a busy life. I paid money to this site and since Andy we have not had a good blogger and Andy often times was painting with a soft brush selling the team to us.

never liked nash....upset the other team but stand up like a man...Nash turtled and ran more than any player I have ever seen.

Give me Tikkanen, McCarty, etc. Nash was often a gutless punk in game giving out cheap shots without answering for them. I'll pass on that kind of player. Dish it out but be ready to take it as well. (note that none of this is any commentary on lapierre)
- stljam

Personally I agree to a point. I think Lappy is far too cheap. I prefer guys who get under the skin and score like Perron. You do not have to answer for hacking and poop talking but Lappy crosses the line and plays beyond the so called edge.

I also really like players like BizNasty and shoot the guy who I think is back with Philly but also played for the Avs and Hawks. He might be a bit cheap but he does answer.


I was just merely pointing out he has a job to do and it is part of the gamesmenship. Frstrating as those players can be. When I went up against a player like that I gave it back to them and waited to get a good legal crushing hit on them which always presented itself.

Butler shows he is not ready, Cole has played his way out of the lineup as far as i am concerned, and signing Brodeur for a short term would not be the worst move made by D.A.(cough cough Lappy, Ott) Don't really mind Ott as a sh*tdisturber but he was paid too much. Should of used some of that money to resign Sobotka.


Who is the 1st trade?

Berglund
Ott
Lapierre
Paajarvi
Cole
Butler (he can be replaced with Lindbohlm or Hakanpaa)

you guys can add other people but those are the ones that come to mind right now.


Can we add Oshie to the list, he sells alot of merch but does his play really effect the game that much that we cant trade him for something better? Bergy and Oshie could make a hell of a move and open some cap room for us to sign Tarasenko and Lehtera to decent long term deals while still getting something back in return.
- BluesDroogie

You honestly think after the last game that Cole played himself out of the line up?

What was it his three great one timers on the one power okay or his goal that showed he does not belong?

Butler shows he is not ready, Cole has played his way out of the lineup as far as i am concerned, and signing Brodeur for a short term would not be the worst move made by D.A.(cough cough Lappy, Ott) Don't really mind Ott as a sh*tdisturber but he was paid too much. Should of used some of that money to resign Sobotka.


Who is the 1st trade?

Berglund
Ott
Lapierre
Paajarvi
Cole
Butler (he can be replaced with Lindbohlm or Hakanpaa)

you guys can add other people but those are the ones that come to mind right now.


Can we add Oshie to the list, he sells alot of merch but does his play really effect the game that much that we cant trade him for something better? Bergy and Oshie could make a hell of a move and open some cap room for us to sign Tarasenko and Lehtera to decent long term deals while still getting something back in return.
- BluesDroogie

Oshie has been playing well. He just barely missed scoring a shortie. He does more on the ice than just score goals, so it is not fair to judge him merely on output. The same can be said of Berglund though less so as at least Oshie is still creating many chances. Berglund and Oshie are also excellent penalty killers.

I could see Berglund being moved in the right deal namely one where the Blues can shed salary and get a good young player.

Butler has not looked bad out there. Is he JayBo? No. But he does not look worse than Jackman,

You honestly think after the last game that Cole played himself out of the line up?

What was it his three great one timers on the one power okay or his goal that showed he does not belong?
- BluemanGuruu

great offensive side. ZERO DEFENSE. that is what he is paid to do correct? bad pass choices in front of the net, bad and costly mistakes in the defensive zone, just inability to play his position. Offense Should be left to guys like Backes, Oshie, Steen, Stastny, the stl line and others.

Cole has played his way on defense out of the lineup in my opinion, and a lot of fans that have season tickets that i talk to regularly.

i know we are not the best judges but he is weak in his zone. that is obvious to me

Oshie has been playing well. He just barely missed scoring a shortie. He does more on the ice than just score goals, so it is not fair to judge him merely on output. The same can be said of Berglund though less so as at least Oshie is still creating many chances. Berglund and Oshie are also excellent penalty killers.

I could see Berglund being moved in the right deal namely one where the Blues can shed salary and get a good young player.

Butler has not looked bad out there. Is he JayBo? No. But he does not look worse than Jackman,
- BluemanGuruu

i know you hate jackman but he is better by far than butler is given the short stint we have seen butler play. oshie does add alot to the team but this was the question, can we get a better return by putting him on the market? i like oshie he adds alot of depth and gritty play along with pk and pp. berglund we can all see being moved and preferably for me at least rather quickly. he slows down the rush to a stand still and takes all of the momentum away.

a big body yes, but didnt we say that about stewart?

The dude has been a total douche bag to me. I was by far not the only one to include you call him out for not writing blogs. I have learned to be patient and kind to you.

What part of what I had to say was so offensive anyway? Was it you do not want to hear about the stuff I saw? If so, then take the time to display some empathy with someone who has to remember that crap every day of his life and every night when you get to have a peaceful sleep(surely not every night but more often than not), keep in mind me and my brothers get to go back to Iraq and reexperience seeing people maimed and all messed up.

I did the right thing by appologizing and swallowing the poop. I was being kind. How come he did not harrass bcall or fatty? I guess it is just another empty thanks he gave on Veterans' Day.

And I would given the chance write a blog for you all even when I have a busy life. I paid money to this site and since Andy we have not had a good blogger and Andy often times was painting with a soft brush selling the team to us.
- BluemanGuruu

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said anything. I didn't even remember what you originally said. Honestly, it was more of a general statement that I shouldn't have directed at you. I have family that continually does the same thing over and over, and then asks for forgiveness each time. It just gets harder and harder to do it with each time it happens, doesn't make the apologies seem sincere.

Hoping for a big win tonight. Interested in what is going to happen with Marty coming in for a look. I would welcome it if Elliott is going to be out for a while and Marty still has it. ..

Oshie actually makes sense to shop now for the Blues. Tarasenko has taken over the marketing department, and is a much better player on the ice. Oshie is one of the few guys who doesn't have a NTC. Not saying I would trade him, but if the price is right, I would listen.

Hey Fellas,
I just saw video of Brodeur on Pro Hockey Talk taking the ice with the Blues. Not sure of your guys current goalie situation, but I believe Binnington was recalled from the Wolves.
I'm hoping the Blues send Marty on an AHL assignment--just so I can see him play in person, haha. I can't imagine they would bring him in right away (if at all). I just feel like you'd be basing your hopes on his past success. It'd be nice if he wanted to be a mentor, but I still don't think he's down for that. Sounds like he still wants to be the number one, and I think that's kind of absurd.
As Blues fans, what do you think? I know that I wouldn't be too psyched for him to come in and want the starting job in Chicago (even though I'm not a huge Crawford fan). He's had a tremendous career and I've enjoyed watching him over the years for the Devils, but it's time to move on.

Hey Fellas,
I just saw video of Brodeur on Pro Hockey Talk taking the ice with the Blues. Not sure of your guys current goalie situation, but I believe Binnington was recalled from the Wolves.
I'm hoping the Blues send Marty on an AHL assignment--just so I can see him play in person, haha. I can't imagine they would bring him in right away (if at all). I just feel like you'd be basing your hopes on his past success. It'd be nice if he wanted to be a mentor, but I still don't think he's down for that. Sounds like he still wants to be the number one, and I think that's kind of absurd.
As Blues fans, what do you think? I know that I wouldn't be too psyched for him to come in and want the starting job in Chicago (even though I'm not a huge Crawford fan). He's had a tremendous career and I've enjoyed watching him over the years for the Devils, but it's time to move on.
- Hank3Henshaw

I don't think there's any way he goes to the AHL on a conditioning assignment.

Jake Allen will get the workload and I think the Blues are looking at Brodeur to give them some veteran insurance.

If he comes in with that attitude, fine. If he thinks he's a number one and is not interested in mentoring and giving Allen a break from time to time, he can hit the bricks.

Hey Fellas,
I just saw video of Brodeur on Pro Hockey Talk taking the ice with the Blues. Not sure of your guys current goalie situation, but I believe Binnington was recalled from the Wolves.
I'm hoping the Blues send Marty on an AHL assignment--just so I can see him play in person, haha. I can't imagine they would bring him in right away (if at all). I just feel like you'd be basing your hopes on his past success. It'd be nice if he wanted to be a mentor, but I still don't think he's down for that. Sounds like he still wants to be the number one, and I think that's kind of absurd.
As Blues fans, what do you think? I know that I wouldn't be too psyched for him to come in and want the starting job in Chicago (even though I'm not a huge Crawford fan). He's had a tremendous career and I've enjoyed watching him over the years for the Devils, but it's time to move on.
- Hank3Henshaw

IF brodeur signs, it will be as a backup until elliot is healthy so he can get some games in and show he is still capable and hopefully he will get picked up by a team when the blues place him on waivers with intentions of terminating his contract. thats the only option i see for the blues and brodeur. he will not go to the ahl, and the blues will not mess with the tandem they have in place

Hey Fellas,
I just saw video of Brodeur on Pro Hockey Talk taking the ice with the Blues. Not sure of your guys current goalie situation, but I believe Binnington was recalled from the Wolves.
I'm hoping the Blues send Marty on an AHL assignment--just so I can see him play in person, haha. I can't imagine they would bring him in right away (if at all). I just feel like you'd be basing your hopes on his past success. It'd be nice if he wanted to be a mentor, but I still don't think he's down for that. Sounds like he still wants to be the number one, and I think that's kind of absurd.
As Blues fans, what do you think? I know that I wouldn't be too psyched for him to come in and want the starting job in Chicago (even though I'm not a huge Crawford fan). He's had a tremendous career and I've enjoyed watching him over the years for the Devils, but it's time to move on.
- Hank3Henshaw

Marty is starting to say the right things that make you think he might be open to a backup role, which is what he would be signed to do. Below is from the team website.

"I enjoy playing the game, I enjoy being around the guys. When you get older, you appreciate kids coming up, having success and seeing their career take off. When you’re a part of that, it’s fun." and “Now, it’s different challenge. It’s nice to see the kids out there, how good, how skilled they are. But everybody needs guidance. Hopefully if I stay here, I’ll be able to provide them some of the experience I’ve had throughout my career.” Brodeur also said he’s here to help, not derail any plans the Blues have between the pipes. “If it means signing me and keeping me around for awhile, that’d be great,” he said. “I know Brian Elliott and Jake Allen have been doing a great job. I’m not here to disturb anything with what’s going on here. They’re having a great season so far.”

It sounds like he is at least talking the talk. A conditioning assignment would make sense and would show he is serious about the opportunity but I doubt it happens. Marty would only be a stop gap measure until Elliott is back unless he found some magic time machine or fountain of youth.

What's Armstrong thinking? He Totally missed out on Eric Brewer.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said anything. I didn't even remember what you originally said. Honestly, it was more of a general statement that I shouldn't have directed at you. I have family that continually does the same thing over and over, and then asks for forgiveness each time. It just gets harder and harder to do it with each time it happens, doesn't make the apologies seem sincere.

Hoping for a big win tonight. Interested in what is going to happen with Marty coming in for a look. I would welcome it if Elliott is going to be out for a while and Marty still has it. ..
- carcus

No problem man.

I actually mean what I say. I am just a fiesty guy is all.

Hope you and family had a great Thanksgiving! I hope the rest of you did as well.

i know you hate jackman but he is better by far than butler is given the short stint we have seen butler play. oshie does add alot to the team but this was the question, can we get a better return by putting him on the market? i like oshie he adds alot of depth and gritty play along with pk and pp. berglund we can all see being moved and preferably for me at least rather quickly. he slows down the rush to a stand still and takes all of the momentum away.

a big body yes, but didnt we say that about stewart?
- BluesDroogie

I actually do not hate Jackman. I do not think he is a bad third pairing guy at all. I did not like seeing him on a second pairing. His biggest issue is he takes too long with his decisions when he has the puck.

Cole has some positional issues and makes some bad passes now and then. I see Shatty and Petro and JayBo all make passes from time to time. Cole is just behind Petro in his ability to escape a forecheck, create a passing lane and move the puck. That stuff is huge. He is starting to show some offense which is a bonus.

It seems to me the way the Blues play around the net has to do more with coaching than the players because they all play arund the net in a similar way.

Hope Brodeur has some gas left in the tank, because Allen looks lost and out of position night after night.