The NHL would like to have zero player to player accountability because like big government, they think players are little babies who need to be looked after, it's a philosophy, the only thing keeping fighting in the game is players who understand the need for that deterrent, i guess we should all listen to john shannon and damian cox...
- aminnes

I never once said that fighting should be banned from the game.

I'm saying I'm glad that useless players like Brashear are pushed aside and make place to players who can both play and fight.

the intercounty baseball league playoffs dont start til late summer
- Dozzer

Nicely done, Dozzer.

Nicely done.

Boston...
- bixll

So you think Shawn Thorton was a useless goon?

He is done now, but he was an effective 4th line player.





Also, he didn't play in the Cup Finale.

I never once said that fighting should be banned from the game.

I'm saying I'm glad that useless players like Brashear are pushed aside and make place to players who can both play and fight.
- Pecafan Fan

You don't know what use he had, you need to find out how his team mates valued him, your watching from the stands you have no idea thats why you should listen to the players not the media, "goons" are the most beloved guys on the team... Tony Twist has some good interviews about the details and how things go down on the ice, and believe me he was a deterrent as much as the guy on the other team was...

The NHL would like to have zero player to player accountability because like big government, they think players are little babies who need to be looked after, it's a philosophy, the only thing keeping fighting in the game is players who understand the need for that deterrent, i guess we should all listen to john shannon and damian cox...
- aminnes

Oh good, the working class hero argument has arrived.

The deterrent argument has always been and always will be crap.

When Janssen gooned Kaberle, what happened?

Next game, Belak punched Janssen a couple of times, and Janssen spent 5 minutes in the penalty box, which actually helped out the Devils.

Wow, what a deterrent.

Why doesn't football have fights?

Why doesn't rugby have fights?

thats the nicest thing thats been said to me in such a long time
- Dozzer

I try.

I never once said that fighting should be banned from the game.

I'm saying I'm glad that useless players like Brashear are pushed aside and make place to players who can both play and fight.
- Pecafan Fan

I used to love fights from guys who could play hockey.

Wendel Clark.

Todd Gill.

The entire Habs team against the entire Nordiques team.

But to be honest with you, I wouldn't miss it a bit if they banned it.

It's just no longer a part of the game. The game has changed.

Oh good, the working class hero argument has arrived.

The deterrent argument has always been and always will be crap.

When Janssen gooned Kaberle, what happened?

Next game, Belak punched Janssen a couple of times, and Janssen spent 5 minutes in the penalty box, which actually helped out the Devils.

Wow, what a deterrent.

Why doesn't football have fights?

Why doesn't rugby have fights?
- Atomic Wedgie

Thats one incident, are you going to listen to the players or what you think goes on from your TV?...

You don't know what use he had, you need to find out how his team mates valued him, your watching from the stands you have no idea thats why you should listen to the players not the media, "goons" are the most beloved guys on the team... Tony Twist has some good interviews about the details and how things go down on the ice, and believe me he was a deterrent as much as the guy on the other team was...
- aminnes

Players like that are so useful that they aren't even dressed in the playoffs.

Your argument is irrelevant.

And Bozak has how many? Convenient u leave him out

Kadri?


- Garnie

I'm not talking about tough guys.

I'm talking about Goons.

Chicago won 2 cups while being the team with the less penalty majors in the league. Pretty sure LA doesn't have a typical goon on their squad either. And by goon, I mean, Brashear and the likes. You know? Useless players.

Edit: I could add the Red Wings... and probably the Penguins but I don't remember their complete lineup.
- Pecafan Fan

ok.. thats the only point i was making.. the role of the tough guy has changed, but someone to stick up for his team mates is still required

Oh good, the working class hero argument has arrived.

The deterrent argument has always been and always will be crap.

When Janssen gooned Kaberle, what happened?

Next game, Belak punched Janssen a couple of times, and Janssen spent 5 minutes in the penalty box, which actually helped out the Devils.

Wow, what a deterrent.

Why doesn't football have fights?

Why doesn't rugby have fights?
- Atomic Wedgie

Remember when Gleason one-punched "30-goal scorer, top-6" Kulemin and turned him into "two-way 3rd line" Kulemin?

I used to love fights from guys who could play hockey.

Wendel Clark.

Todd Gill.

The entire Habs team against the entire Nordiques team.

But to be honest with you, I wouldn't miss it a bit if they banned it.

It's just no longer a part of the game. The game has been manipulated by rules from head office.
- Atomic Wedgie

I used to love fights from guys who could play hockey.

Wendel Clark.

Todd Gill.

The entire Habs team against the entire Nordiques team.

But to be honest with you, I wouldn't miss it a bit if they banned it.

It's just no longer a part of the game. The game has changed.
- Atomic Wedgie

It wouldn't bother me it it was banned.

It doesn't bother me that they keep it.

As long as the dumb staged fights are at an all time low I'm happy.

Players like that are so useful that they aren't even dressed in the playoffs.

Your argument is irrelevant.
- Pecafan Fan

Again, your speaking like a spectator, I will go with what guys on the ice think, and 98% say it's a deterent, and the season is 82 games...

Thats one incident, are you going to listen to the players or what you think goes on from your TV?...
- aminnes

Scott on Kessel.

ok.. thats the only point i was making.. the role of the tough guy has changed, but someone to stick up for his team mates is still required
- Dozzer

Of course. Guys like Prust and Weise in Montreal do exactly that. They stick up for their team mates, but they can play hockey as well.

I don't have that freedom...it's basically my album...my songs, my vocals, my acoustic tracks..spending 5 hrs per session and i gotta keep my poop together without burning out...and i'm not used to it yet, dont want to waste the studio time and effort of the guy at the board....it will definitely get easier and quicker as time goes on though...it is already after 3 sessions
- jimi james

oh.. i was clean and sober during my tracking 100%

nice part about being the bassist.. you generally go first

The NHL would like to have zero player to player accountability because like big government, they think players are little babies who need to be looked after, it's a philosophy, the only thing keeping fighting in the game is players who understand the need for that deterrent, i guess we should all listen to john shannon and damian cox...
- aminnes

i should ban you

Nicely done, Dozzer.

Nicely done.
- Atomic Wedgie

*bows*

thank you.

Scott on Kessel.
- Atomic Wedgie

?... Nothing happened, in fact, It might have been nice to have someone who could have done something in that instance...

I try.
- Yeti1181

no you dont!

Of course. Guys like Prust and Weise in Montreal do exactly that. They stick up for their team mates, but they can play hockey as well.
- Pecafan Fan

I think if you can't find a good player that fights though, you should still have someone that fights, it's still better than having none, but obviously a guy that can play the game is preferred...

no you dont!
- Dozzer

Sssssh

i should ban you
- Dozzer