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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 24 @ 9:52 PM ET
1. yes they have.
they've fired 4 coaches in 5 or 6 years. that's a hugely important position in any organization. many people (as well as many outsiders) have continually blamed it on the coach. and management has made the changes. and in many cases these same outsiders are again saying fire the coach.

bring in veteran leadership as so many outsiders still say? well first off the oilers aren't an extremely desirable destination, but nonetheless mact has still done exactly that. his roster turnover since taking over the team is the highest in the league I believe. or close to it at least.
ference, Gordon, Hendricks, pouliot, nikitin etc etc.
saying those were the "wrong" vets is just hindsight at this point. and we arent able to bring in the keiths and the suters anyway.


2. this assumption basically states that the oilers management doesn't care if we lose. theyre happy with it in fact and aren't doing what they can to change the team. how could this be? winning is the cure for any ailment in professional sports. nobodies job is in question when your winning. do u think they're unaware of this?
I just don't understand this logic.
and furthermore, mact has in fact fired the coaches and changed the roster as previously mentioned just like many people wanted. they fired a goalie coach today after what, 3-4 days of grumbling about the goalie coach? I know for sure it wasn't a focal point position in the very recent past anyway.

3. im not mad man. and yes, everyone is entitled to say whatever they want on this site. but I view a huge majority of the guys on the oiler threads as haters. I didn't say u were. but I stand by those words.
"u guys suck so trade us eberle for our 3rd line plug and a pick".........
"no??!! no wonder u guys suck"

i took exception when u called all oiler fans unrealistic or blind cause they don't agree with your thoughts.

and finally, why would we listen to these outsiders?
first, they don't have nearly as much invested in the oilers winning as the people that actually care do. and for the most part, nor are they as close to the situation and know what the real problems are. and im not just talking about joe poster on HB. im talking about supposed expert, eastern based hockey analyst that doesn't know a fuking thing about the oilers and doesn't watch them 50+ times a year

- hugefemale dog77


I got to go see my dealer now so I'll have to pick up this discussion when I get back. I'll find ya later...
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 24 @ 9:54 PM ET
What's with all the Canuck posters.... Did they get lost on the way to the weekly gang bang.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 24 @ 9:56 PM ET
Im hoping subway tbh, more choices, and it tastes WAY better.
- Oilers4Life14

Ok, now you've done it. Quiznos is awesome.


You're dead to me.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 9:57 PM ET
What's with all the Canuck posters.... Did they get lost on the way to the weekly gang bang.
- Reveen

Whipper was too busy this weekend...l
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 9:58 PM ET
Whipper was too busy this weekend...l
- HouseArrest187

Weiss scored more goals than Crosby and tied for goals with Malkin tonight. That means he's better than Sid and just as good as Geno right?
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 24 @ 9:59 PM ET
Whipper was too busy this weekend...l
- HouseArrest187



Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:00 PM ET
Weiss scored more goals than Crosby and tied for goals with Malkin tonight. That means he's better than Sid and just as good as Geno right?
- CreepyPasta


ok, who's alt is this
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:01 PM ET
Ok, now you've done it. Quiznos is awesome.


You're dead to me.

- batjester

Nope. Subway all day every day....
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:02 PM ET
Nope. Subway all day every day....
- HouseArrest187

true dat.... quiznos is lame
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:02 PM ET
ok, who's alt is this
- Reveen

It's (frank)ing yman.....
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:04 PM ET
It's (frank)ing yman.....
- HouseArrest187


What a yutz
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:06 PM ET
New alt??? THE REPTILIAN!!!


Edit... Also my new super villain name...

- HouseArrest187

So you're not gonna go by snake(frank)er anymore???
oranje_blue91
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PSM 06.23.15, AB
Joined: 10.16.2014

Nov 24 @ 10:06 PM ET
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:06 PM ET
What a yutz
- Reveen

I know right....
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:07 PM ET
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:09 PM ET
So you're not gonna go by snake(frank)er anymore???
- batjester

When did your mam change her name to snake..... Is it cause of the tattoo I convinced her to get above her cooch???
oranje_blue91
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PSM 06.23.15, AB
Joined: 10.16.2014

Nov 24 @ 10:10 PM ET
Any thoughts?
Please no hate, I jsut want to see a change in this team as much as any other Oiler fan would want to.

- EdmHockeyMan


*pukes in mouth
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:11 PM ET
Trade our first round draft pick right now while it is high (Every team probably thinks we are crashing and burning, and everyone thinks/knows that Mcdavid is going to be a franchise star). We can still turn the season around. We got 60 games left. If MacT can do it, he can pull of one of the biggest game changing trades in Hockey History. Let me explain (It might be a long shot, but we can all agree that we want to see playoff action, the time when Rexall Place is the loudest place on earth):

Step 1:

2nd Round Draft pick + Ference + Yakupov = Seguin (add a 2017 2nd Rounder if Dallas counters)

Yakupov was and is the odd puzzle out of this top 6. He has the potential, but he just isn't fitting into the group (Was a big supporter for Ryan Murray). We get Tyler Seguin, whom is very acquainted with Hall and RNH. He will fit in quite well. The 1 or 2 2nd draft picks make this deal a great one for Dallas especially since this draft might be the best one in a Decade. A decade ago, you saw Pavel Datsyuk buried in the 7th round. Ference as captain is just not working out and he is alright in defense, but we have tons of top 4 defensemen. We all have agreed that this is Hall's team. He is the turning corner of this team.

and then

1st Round Draft Pick + Petry + Musil = Seabrook + Hjal

Might look like the worst trade ever, but lets remember that that 1st Draft pick could become a franchise star (Even though Chicago already has one). Petry is a good top 4 defenseman, but we have tons of those that are going to start popping up later on (Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Gernat possibly). We need elite-consistent defense from the best and Seabrook provides it. Hjal, however might be the turning point on how this trade might play out as he still hasn't shown what he truely has to offer, only glimpses of potential (Had one hell of a good playoff run). We would need to waiver Luke, Pini, and Aulie in order to pass the trade.

Step 2:

Change the Scouting Staff and retool it in a way that models the Detroit's style of scouting.
For this year, scout mainly on Goalies and focus on looking for that elite late boomer. It might be harder than catching fly's with chopsticks, but it is possible (Ask Daniel).

Step 3:

Hire Mark Messier as a Associate Coach and fire Acton. (Let both of the Actons go). Messier was a hard-working, consistent player. I think he has the potential to impact that on the Players. The main reason why Gretzky didn't do well as a coach was because he was more Talent gifted than hard-working. Messier was the heart and soul of the Oilers in 1991. In fact, it would be very, very interesting to see Messier as a Head Coach and Gretzky as an Associate Coach. Messier would teach and influence the players with hardwork and playing with a passion, while Gretzky could fine the edges on the players and give them a more tactical and technical apporach (Gretzky was all tactics, especially behind the net).

Step 4: Win the Cup.

All of this can be done. It can be done! For some of the trades, it might take 1 or 2 more draft picks, but we are DONE DRAFTING, SAY IT WITH ME, WE ARE DONE DRAFTING. We wouldn't need any high draft picks for the next 5-6 years (We got Big K, Yak2, Chase, and more offense. Our defense pool is amazing depth wise) as long as we draft smart (Liek the red wings) and we don't jsut go with the concensus.

In the end, our lineup could look like this in JUST 1-2 WEEKS:

Hall-Seguin-Purcell
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Arco-Leon-Pouliot
Joensuu-Gordon-Hendricks

Seabrook-Hjal
Marincin-Fayne
Schultz-Nikitin

Scrivens
Fasth

Any thoughts?
Please no hate, I jsut want to see a change in this team as much as any other Oiler fan would want to.

- EdmHockeyMan


WOW.......
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:11 PM ET
Trade our first round draft pick right now while it is high (Every team probably thinks we are crashing and burning, and everyone thinks/knows that Mcdavid is going to be a franchise star). We can still turn the season around. We got 60 games left. If MacT can do it, he can pull of one of the biggest game changing trades in Hockey History. Let me explain (It might be a long shot, but we can all agree that we want to see playoff action, the time when Rexall Place is the loudest place on earth):

Step 1:

2nd Round Draft pick + Ference + Yakupov = Seguin (add a 2017 2nd Rounder if Dallas counters)

Yakupov was and is the odd puzzle out of this top 6. He has the potential, but he just isn't fitting into the group (Was a big supporter for Ryan Murray). We get Tyler Seguin, whom is very acquainted with Hall and RNH. He will fit in quite well. The 1 or 2 2nd draft picks make this deal a great one for Dallas especially since this draft might be the best one in a Decade. A decade ago, you saw Pavel Datsyuk buried in the 7th round. Ference as captain is just not working out and he is alright in defense, but we have tons of top 4 defensemen. We all have agreed that this is Hall's team. He is the turning corner of this team.

and then

1st Round Draft Pick + Petry + Musil = Seabrook + Hjal

Might look like the worst trade ever, but lets remember that that 1st Draft pick could become a franchise star (Even though Chicago already has one). Petry is a good top 4 defenseman, but we have tons of those that are going to start popping up later on (Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Gernat possibly). We need elite-consistent defense from the best and Seabrook provides it. Hjal, however might be the turning point on how this trade might play out as he still hasn't shown what he truely has to offer, only glimpses of potential (Had one hell of a good playoff run). We would need to waiver Luke, Pini, and Aulie in order to pass the trade.

Step 2:

Change the Scouting Staff and retool it in a way that models the Detroit's style of scouting.
For this year, scout mainly on Goalies and focus on looking for that elite late boomer. It might be harder than catching fly's with chopsticks, but it is possible (Ask Daniel).

Step 3:

Hire Mark Messier as a Associate Coach and fire Acton. (Let both of the Actons go). Messier was a hard-working, consistent player. I think he has the potential to impact that on the Players. The main reason why Gretzky didn't do well as a coach was because he was more Talent gifted than hard-working. Messier was the heart and soul of the Oilers in 1991. In fact, it would be very, very interesting to see Messier as a Head Coach and Gretzky as an Associate Coach. Messier would teach and influence the players with hardwork and playing with a passion, while Gretzky could fine the edges on the players and give them a more tactical and technical apporach (Gretzky was all tactics, especially behind the net).

Step 4: Win the Cup.

All of this can be done. It can be done! For some of the trades, it might take 1 or 2 more draft picks, but we are DONE DRAFTING, SAY IT WITH ME, WE ARE DONE DRAFTING. We wouldn't need any high draft picks for the next 5-6 years (We got Big K, Yak2, Chase, and more offense. Our defense pool is amazing depth wise) as long as we draft smart (Liek the red wings) and we don't jsut go with the concensus.

In the end, our lineup could look like this in JUST 1-2 WEEKS:

Hall-Seguin-Purcell
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Arco-Leon-Pouliot
Joensuu-Gordon-Hendricks

Seabrook-Hjal
Marincin-Fayne
Schultz-Nikitin

Scrivens
Fasth

Any thoughts?
Please no hate, I jsut want to see a change in this team as much as any other Oiler fan would want to.

- EdmHockeyMan


Best timing ever.... I'm litterly making popcorn... Some one post a gif of me eating popcorn..... Please... Best one wins a bottle of the good poop and a weed cookie...
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:12 PM ET
Trade our first round draft pick right now while it is high (Every team probably thinks we are crashing and burning, and everyone thinks/knows that Mcdavid is going to be a franchise star). We can still turn the season around. We got 60 games left. If MacT can do it, he can pull of one of the biggest game changing trades in Hockey History. Let me explain (It might be a long shot, but we can all agree that we want to see playoff action, the time when Rexall Place is the loudest place on earth):

Step 1:

2nd Round Draft pick + Ference + Yakupov = Seguin (add a 2017 2nd Rounder if Dallas counters)

Yakupov was and is the odd puzzle out of this top 6. He has the potential, but he just isn't fitting into the group (Was a big supporter for Ryan Murray). We get Tyler Seguin, whom is very acquainted with Hall and RNH. He will fit in quite well. The 1 or 2 2nd draft picks make this deal a great one for Dallas especially since this draft might be the best one in a Decade. A decade ago, you saw Pavel Datsyuk buried in the 7th round. Ference as captain is just not working out and he is alright in defense, but we have tons of top 4 defensemen. We all have agreed that this is Hall's team. He is the turning corner of this team.

and then

1st Round Draft Pick + Petry + Musil = Seabrook + Hjal

Might look like the worst trade ever, but lets remember that that 1st Draft pick could become a franchise star (Even though Chicago already has one). Petry is a good top 4 defenseman, but we have tons of those that are going to start popping up later on (Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Gernat possibly). We need elite-consistent defense from the best and Seabrook provides it. Hjal, however might be the turning point on how this trade might play out as he still hasn't shown what he truely has to offer, only glimpses of potential (Had one hell of a good playoff run). We would need to waiver Luke, Pini, and Aulie in order to pass the trade.

Step 2:

Change the Scouting Staff and retool it in a way that models the Detroit's style of scouting.
For this year, scout mainly on Goalies and focus on looking for that elite late boomer. It might be harder than catching fly's with chopsticks, but it is possible (Ask Daniel).

Step 3:

Hire Mark Messier as a Associate Coach and fire Acton. (Let both of the Actons go). Messier was a hard-working, consistent player. I think he has the potential to impact that on the Players. The main reason why Gretzky didn't do well as a coach was because he was more Talent gifted than hard-working. Messier was the heart and soul of the Oilers in 1991. In fact, it would be very, very interesting to see Messier as a Head Coach and Gretzky as an Associate Coach. Messier would teach and influence the players with hardwork and playing with a passion, while Gretzky could fine the edges on the players and give them a more tactical and technical apporach (Gretzky was all tactics, especially behind the net).

Step 4: Win the Cup.

All of this can be done. It can be done! For some of the trades, it might take 1 or 2 more draft picks, but we are DONE DRAFTING, SAY IT WITH ME, WE ARE DONE DRAFTING. We wouldn't need any high draft picks for the next 5-6 years (We got Big K, Yak2, Chase, and more offense. Our defense pool is amazing depth wise) as long as we draft smart (Liek the red wings) and we don't jsut go with the concensus.

In the end, our lineup could look like this in JUST 1-2 WEEKS:

Hall-Seguin-Purcell
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Arco-Leon-Pouliot
Joensuu-Gordon-Hendricks

Seabrook-Hjal
Marincin-Fayne
Schultz-Nikitin

Scrivens
Fasth

Any thoughts?
Please no hate, I jsut want to see a change in this team as much as any other Oiler fan would want to.

- EdmHockeyMan


Both Dallas and Chicago would laugh, tell you to (frank) off, and hang up.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:14 PM ET
Best timing ever.... I'm litterly making popcorn... Some one post a gif of me eating popcorn..... Please... Best one wins a bottle of the good poop and a weed cookie...

- HouseArrest187

HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET

- Reveen

That's pretty much the exact opposite of what I look like, but good try...
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
Best timing ever.... I'm litterly making popcorn... Some one post a gif of me eating popcorn..... Please... Best one wins a bottle of the good poop and a weed cookie...

- HouseArrest187


oranje_blue91
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PSM 06.23.15, AB
Joined: 10.16.2014

Nov 24 @ 10:18 PM ET
That's pretty much the exact opposite of what I look like, but good try...
- HouseArrest187

HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:18 PM ET

- Dangles13

you are buy far the front runner....
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