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Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
What does Katz know about hockey that he could justify vetoing what is managers are saying/doing?

Just because you own a certain business, doesn't mean you are knowledgable to run said business. That's what managers are for. But if his managers aren't getting any results, it's up to him to decide on wether or not they should be replaced

- SpoiledByOil

Owners have been known to. That's why I'd be intrigued about brokering a trade with Columbus and Arizona. Those teams are not necessarily in the best economic shape. Their owners might be a bit blinded by a deal with the 2015 1st in it for marketing reasons.
HectorSalamanca
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.16.2013

Nov 24 @ 8:24 PM ET
What does Katz know about hockey that he could justify vetoing what is managers are saying/doing?

Just because you own a certain business, doesn't mean you are knowledgable to run said business. That's what managers are for. But if his managers aren't getting any results, it's up to him to decide on wether or not they should be replaced

- SpoiledByOil


So if he doesn't fire Lowe, but everybody is calling for Lowe's head, shouldn't that equal people calling for his head? I'm not saying that we need a new owner and Katz needs to sell, I am merely observing that there is basically zero hate for Katz, but people call for Lowe's head on a daily basis, even though Katz and Lowe have basically the same impact on the on ice product - Zero. Kevin Lowe is little more than the face of the Edmonton Oilers management. Do you think that fat pr!ck ever does any kind of work?
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:26 PM ET
I'd take them both. Jussi is a powerplay wizard and Ollie is weird to look at.
- Morris

His mullet was perfect for the ghost face of my avatar.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:32 PM ET
#2 on my list, number 1 will always be


- DarthYoda

I'd take a #2 on her chest.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 24 @ 8:33 PM ET
I bet all the stupid Oilers fans were well educated by the intelligent fans of the other NHL teams. Maybe after all the tongue lashings that were handed out today all of the fans will stop running this team into the ground.
- Dangles13

If you guys can't handle this, you'd hav no chance as a Leafs fan. Need to be a tough cookie following the Leafs. Let trolls roll off ya back.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:33 PM ET
I just spent way to much time reading all the comments on this feed and yes there is a lot of silly comments on here but Iggysbff you are certainly the tool of the day. I think we can all agree on this!!!
- 67_ToLongAgo

Since you are agreeing with the couple Canucks fans ....jokes on you.

Iggy is the legend that undid the fat man.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 8:34 PM ET
I'd take a #2 on her chest.
- ghostofRC

And JB will lick it off just to touch a boob...
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 24 @ 8:35 PM ET
Owners have been known to. That's why I'd be intrigued about brokering a trade with Columbus and Arizona. Those teams are not necessarily in the best economic shape. Their owners might be a bit blinded by a deal with the 2015 1st in it for marketing reasons.
- Morris



I could be wrong, but I just don't think Katz even knows anything about hockey
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Nov 24 @ 8:36 PM ET
So if he doesn't fire Lowe, but everybody is calling for Lowe's head, shouldn't that equal people calling for his head? I'm not saying that we need a new owner and Katz needs to sell, I am merely observing that there is basically zero hate for Katz, but people call for Lowe's head on a daily basis, even though Katz and Lowe have basically the same impact on the on ice product - Zero. Kevin Lowe is little more than the face of the Edmonton Oilers management. Do you think that fat pr!ck ever does any kind of work?
- HectorSalamanca



Well at least Katz is giving us a shiny new rink and a promising arena district, turns out you actually can polish a turd
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 24 @ 8:39 PM ET
I could be wrong, but I just don't think Katz even knows anything about hockey
- SpoiledByOil

I don't think so, but it doesn't take a lot to realize that Yakupov > Murray in terms of marketing

For the record, I'm not necessarily saying that Murray > Yakupov.
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:39 PM ET
I'd take a #2 on her chest.
- ghostofRC

Someone ban this account of his too.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:42 PM ET
Someone ban this account of his too.
- CreepyPasta

CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:43 PM ET

- ghostofRC

How's it going?
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:45 PM ET
How's it going?
- CreepyPasta

All good. Except the oil losing. Did someone get banned after the leafs beat the wings?

Edit. Oh yeah. The girls the other night
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Nov 24 @ 8:51 PM ET
whipper1 - 333?
- oranje_blue91

CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:53 PM ET
All good. Except the oil losing. Did someone get banned after the leafs beat the wings?

Edit. Oh yeah. The girls the other night

- ghostofRC

Yep. Was epic. I wonder if I just edited and deleted the image itself if the Refs could see the original instead of just deleting the post itself.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:55 PM ET
Yep. Was epic. I wonder if I just edited and deleted the image itself if the Refs could see the original instead of just deleting the post itself.
- CreepyPasta

Probably would work just deleting the image and reposting.

Is that joker flow you added to the Avy?
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 8:56 PM ET
Probably would work just deleting the image and reposting.

Is that joker flow you added to the Avy?

- ghostofRC

You love Olli's Jokeullet
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 24 @ 9:00 PM ET
You love Olli's Jokeullet
- CreepyPasta



I used to have that hair in the late 80s. Down to my shoulder blades and permed

With my jean jacket with Judas Priest and maiden decals all over it.

Good times.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 24 @ 9:12 PM ET


(frank) that! I wouldn't even share her with my boy Jero....and we've tagged a lot of moms!

- Iggysbff

Man I would (frank) her after you went 6 messy rounds with with her even if she didn't shower. You'd let me do that at least?
oranje_blue91
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PSM 06.23.15, AB
Joined: 10.16.2014

Nov 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
Apparently Scribnyk and Slow feel bad about the frog getting fired. I expect one of the unambiguously gay duo to post a shutout tomorrow.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

Nov 24 @ 9:15 PM ET
Apparently Scribnyk and Slow feel bad about the frog getting fired. I expect one of the unambiguously gay duo to post a shutout tomorrow.
- oranje_blue91

Alexoil is in net?
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Nov 24 @ 9:16 PM ET
I've already said I'll be furious if Draisaitl is an Oiler for the rest of this year, and if the Oil draft McDavid. What a crock it'll be.

We need to make a change to our defense, and to our Centres, and probably also to our goaltending, and i'll be very angry with management if two of those three don't happen before June.

- Morris

Yeah? What would you be willing to part with to acquire those pieces AND change the culture of the team?

If you don't think Perron and Schultz will get it done and I respect your opinion so what is it?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Nov 24 @ 9:21 PM ET
You make some good points so let me address each:

1. Outsiders peddling the same tired solutions that they hear from Dreger ET AL.
But these tired solutions haven't been tried yet. The same people have been driving this boat for years now with no improvement in sight. An organization can keep on firing fringe managers, positional coaches, and team trainers with no evidence of improvement. Maybe it's time to listen to these 'outsiders'.

2. And that oiler fans have any actual say in the teams makeup. We don't.
I think you're wrong here. fans do have a say. If 12,000 fans showed up to a Saturday night game the owner would start to listen. But the sheep keep coming to the games so why change a thing.

3. the haters shouldnt waste their times trying to convince us
We are not haters. We all remember the great oiler days. There's been nothing like it since. Who doesn't want that again. I think people are generally concerned and want to provide their thoughts and maybe a solution. The last time I checked hockey discussion was acceptable on this site.

- bloatedmosquito


1. yes they have.
they've fired 4 coaches in 5 or 6 years. that's a hugely important position in any organization. many people (as well as many outsiders) have continually blamed it on the coach. and management has made the changes. and in many cases these same outsiders are again saying fire the coach.

bring in veteran leadership as so many outsiders still say? well first off the oilers aren't an extremely desirable destination, but nonetheless mact has still done exactly that. his roster turnover since taking over the team is the highest in the league I believe. or close to it at least.
ference, Gordon, Hendricks, pouliot, nikitin etc etc.
saying those were the "wrong" vets is just hindsight at this point. and we arent able to bring in the keiths and the suters anyway.


2. this assumption basically states that the oilers management doesn't care if we lose. theyre happy with it in fact and aren't doing what they can to change the team. how could this be? winning is the cure for any ailment in professional sports. nobodies job is in question when your winning. do u think they're unaware of this?
I just don't understand this logic.
and furthermore, mact has in fact fired the coaches and changed the roster as previously mentioned just like many people wanted. they fired a goalie coach today after what, 3-4 days of grumbling about the goalie coach? I know for sure it wasn't a focal point position in the very recent past anyway.

3. im not mad man. and yes, everyone is entitled to say whatever they want on this site. but I view a huge majority of the guys on the oiler threads as haters. I didn't say u were. but I stand by those words.
"u guys suck so trade us eberle for our 3rd line plug and a pick".........
"no??!! no wonder u guys suck"

i took exception when u called all oiler fans unrealistic or blind cause they don't agree with your thoughts.

and finally, why would we listen to these outsiders?
first, they don't have nearly as much invested in the oilers winning as the people that actually care do. and for the most part, nor are they as close to the situation and know what the real problems are. and im not just talking about joe poster on HB. im talking about supposed expert, eastern based hockey analyst that doesn't know a fuking thing about the oilers and doesn't watch them 50+ times a year
CreepyPasta
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ghost of HA's liver. #shutupJB
Joined: 10.05.2014

Nov 24 @ 9:45 PM ET


I used to have that hair in the late 80s. Down to my shoulder blades and permed

With my jean jacket with Judas Priest and maiden decals all over it.

Good times.

- ghostofRC

I just now imagine Heisenberg with an Olli mullet dressed like Jero's avatar.
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