I am a big Taylor Hall fan. I think eventually he is a captain in this league. But can't deny what Seguin has done the last 13 months.

Yakupov and Murray are a wash right now IMHO. Neither has done much.
- stormey

The scouts were mixed on Seguin and Hall. One is a center the other a winger.

I would take the center.

The scouts were mixed on Seguin and Hall. One is a center the other a winger.

I would take the center.
- blarneylad

i recall the scouts being slightly in favour of Hall. i agree with stormey in that Hall is really good but i thought he'd be even better... like 45 goals/100 point good. maybe he'll get there at some point.

i agree on both points but i just think that at that point, a potential #1 dman over a potential top line winger is a no-brainer, especially when they already had Hall and Eberle in the fold. but that's a franchise that to this point has shown no interest in seriously plugging their holes. it's why their goalies are Scrivens and Fasth and it's why they have an 18 year old as their second line center.
- DoubleDown

Dark days for the oil for sure

but they have great assets to point them in the right direction. The fact that management has failed to do anything yet (and not just because of this years' abysmal start but years of it) makes me think they are tanking again.

Draft McDavid and now RNH, Eberle, and Yakupov are expendable.

i recall the scouts being slightly in favour of Hall. i agree with stormey in that Hall is really good but i thought he'd be even better... like 45 goals/100 point good. maybe he'll get there at some point.
- DoubleDown

how long before he wants the (frank) out of Edmonton?

i recall the scouts being slightly in favour of Hall. i agree with stormey in that Hall is really good but i thought he'd be even better... like 45 goals/100 point good. maybe he'll get there at some point.
- DoubleDown

Well he seems to be a point per game caliber player. And he is very young still.

I wonder how Seguin or Hall would do on the habs? And I mean had we originally drafted them. Patience with Galchenyuk may be a 'luxery' (as EE would describe) but I don't understand why other young players can break into the league and be so lethal.

Is it coaching or Galchenyuk just not being in the same category as Hall and Seguin?

Dark days for the oil for sure

but they have great assets to point them in the right direction. The fact that management has failed to do anything yet (and not just because of this years' abysmal start but years of it) makes me think they are tanking again.

Draft McDavid and now RNH, Eberle, and Yakupov are expendable.
- blarneylad

i agree that at this point, it makes no sense to try to improve. their season is over and that's not even debatable. but they've got to get serious about bringing in someone who can really run the show there. i mean i feel like they're a few days away from dusting off John Muckler...

Well he seems to be a point per game caliber player. And he is very young still.

I wonder how Seguin or Hall would do on the habs? And I mean had we originally drafted them. Patience with Galchenyuk may be a 'luxery' (as EE would describe) but I don't understand why other young players can break into the league and be so lethal.

Is it coaching or Galchenyuk just not being in the same category as Hall and Seguin?
- blarneylad

wouldn't be shocked if he's already at that point.

Well he seems to be a point per game caliber player. And he is very young still.

I wonder how Seguin or Hall would do on the habs? And I mean had we originally drafted them. Patience with Galchenyuk may be a 'luxery' (as EE would describe) but I don't understand why other young players can break into the league and be so lethal.

Is it coaching or Galchenyuk just not being in the same category as Hall and Seguin?
- blarneylad

I don't think anyone in the Galechnyuk draft was in the same category as Hall and Seguin.

Gally may end up being the second best player in the draft (behind Trouba...yeah...I went there) but what is his legit ceiling? 60-70 pretty consistently with maybe one big year where he tops 80?

i agree that at this point, it makes no sense to try to improve. their season is over and that's not even debatable. but they've got to get serious about bringing in someone who can really run the show there. i mean i feel like they're a few days away from dusting off John Muckler...
- DoubleDown

Pretty sure MacTavish would love to trade a few of his forwards for an experienced #1 D, but I'd say most #1 D (or potential #1D) all have NTC attached to their contract.

And let's be honest, who would accept a trade to Edmonton?

Well he seems to be a point per game caliber player. And he is very young still.

I wonder how Seguin or Hall would do on the habs? And I mean had we originally drafted them. Patience with Galchenyuk may be a 'luxery' (as EE would describe) but I don't understand why other young players can break into the league and be so lethal.

Is it coaching or Galchenyuk just not being in the same category as Hall and Seguin?
- blarneylad

i don't think he's in the same category as those 2 unfortunately. i also don't think Galchenyuk shoots the puck nearly enough for a winger with his skill set. especially considering that he's not exactly playing with high class finishers.

Well he seems to be a point per game caliber player. And he is very young still.

I wonder how Seguin or Hall would do on the habs? And I mean had we originally drafted them. Patience with Galchenyuk may be a 'luxery' (as EE would describe) but I don't understand why other young players can break into the league and be so lethal.

Is it coaching or Galchenyuk just not being in the same category as Hall and Seguin?
- blarneylad

Caliber?

He has 143 points in his last 136 games.

I don't think anyone in the Galechnyuk draft was in the same category as Hall and Seguin.

Gally may end up being the second best player in the draft (behind Trouba...yeah...I went there) but what is his legit ceiling? 60-70 pretty consistently with maybe one big year where he tops 80?
- stormey

i think if Galchenyuk doesn't become a consistent 80 point player by the time he's 23-24, that will be a bit of a disappointment.

i think if Galchenyuk doesn't become a consistent 80 point player by the time he's 23-24, that will be a bit of a disappointment.
- DoubleDown

I don't see it.

Not that he isn't going to be a very good player...but point a game players in the NHL usually end up in the top 10 in scoring.

I don't see it.

Not that he isn't going to be a very good player...but point a game players in the NHL usually end up in the top 10 in scoring.
- stormey

I tend to agree with you that he wont be a ppg player. At lease not on this team.

The only way he gets there is playing with Patches and another good winger. Gallagher I don't think is the answer either.

I don't see it.

Not that he isn't going to be a very good player...but point a game players in the NHL usually end up in the top 10 in scoring.
- stormey

yeah i guess that makes sense. id be happy if he ends up a 30 goal, 40 assist guy. he's slowly getting there. on pace for 50 this year.

i think if Galchenyuk doesn't become a consistent 80 point player by the time he's 23-24, that will be a bit of a disappointment.
- DoubleDown

Honestly, I don't think he has that kind of potential.

He'd be putting up a lot more points than he currently is. He's on pace for roughly 50pts.

I don't see it.

Not that he isn't going to be a very good player...but point a game players in the NHL usually end up in the top 10 in scoring.
- stormey

I can see him putting up 70-80

I mean, if Kessel can do it..

I tend to agree with you that he wont be a ppg player. At lease not on this team.

The only way he gets there is playing with Patches and another good winger. Gallagher I don't think is the answer either.
- l3ig_l2ecl

this is true. he's never had the chance to play with the team's best offensive players.

i think if Galchenyuk doesn't become a consistent 80 point player by the time he's 23-24, that will be a bit of a disappointment.
- DoubleDown

Could have more points this year...I saw Plekanec fan on a few perfect passes from Galchenyuk so far.

Also, Gallagher should not be the one carrying the puck into the offensive zone. He should just pass, and skate trying to stay open for a shot.

Could have more points this year...I saw Plekanec fan on a few perfect passes from Galchenyuk so far.

Also, Gallagher should not be the one carrying the puck into the offensive zone. He should just pass, and skate trying to stay open for a shot.
- stinger67

You could say that for every single player in the NHL not named Stephen Weiss.

Honestly, I don't think he has that kind of potential.

He'd be putting up a lot more points than he currently is. He's on pace for roughly 50pts.
- Pecafan Fan

He's only 20...I think he'll turn out into a regular 70-80 pts guy

One thing that bugs me is that he's still not playing at centre.

He's only 20...I think he'll turn out into a regular 70-80 pts guy

One thing that bugs me is that he's still not playing at centre.
- stinger67

I'd say 60-70

so, in the 65pts range.

Could have more points this year...I saw Plekanec fan on a few perfect passes from Galchenyuk so far.

Also, Gallagher should not be the one carrying the puck into the offensive zone. He should just pass, and skate trying to stay open for a shot.
- stinger67

Gallagher is great to get in front of goalies and be in their faces, but the truth is, he's more of a third line player than a top line.

He's one of my favorites on the team, but not because of his skills. Because every other team hates his guts. Even I want to punch him in the face when he smiles during interviews...

Patches, 27, and another tallent. You got 80points

I'd say 60-70

so, in the 65pts range.
- Pecafan Fan

that would be a disappointment.