Dave Isaac says Flyers going 7 D tonight.

Dave Isaac says Flyers going 7 D tonight.
- Jsaquella

If it ain't broke..

Timmy P wondering how Islanders are in first place and calls the Macdonald trade a bad one for the Isles

http://www.csnphilly.com/...ace-metropolitan-division

I wasnt singling you out there.. There are many people who felt that way. Many people said he was a bust, or would never live up to his potential, etc. etc.
- jak521

I know, I know... Sorry for the cranky tone, I've got a case of the Mondays..

The worst part is, you could tell he had the potential to be more.. you could tell he was just cracking the surface, but just wasn't pushing to that next level. I just always viewed the trade as a "breathe of fresh air", so to speak. That it was kinda needed by both teams. (again, I was one who had high hopes for Schenn)

The biggest problem is that people see size and immediately correlate that with strength and physicality. On top of that the org. made the John LeClair connection, but truthfully, they share ZERO similarities (aside from size and nationality). Fans hate Jeff Carter because of the same stuff.

True, but at the same time, you see glimpses of the capabilities and just wish they would do it all the time. JvR, since being in Toronto, has been playing big.. he's very strong on, and off the puck. Where he would let guys push him around in Philly, he's now the one doing the pushing. That's all I wanted from the kid... that extra effort and physical play. Not LeClair physical, but just strong on his skates.

As for Schenn, he never had a chance to be dynamic. He was big slow and only showed elite talent in the hitting department. He was a routine healthy scratch in Toronto. I was pissed the day I heard that. Schenn is a 90's d-man dream... If it were only the 90's.

Thing is, I still think that he had potential to be more versatile... Fast? No.. but more versatile and "skillfull".. Kinda like this version of him http://youtu.be/OerpPZekq-o... smart and strong on the puck. Unfortunately, as if we didn't lose the deal to begin with, we haven't seen any of that Schenn since being here, really..

Dave Isaac says Flyers going 7 D tonight.
- Jsaquella

Don't know if that is a bad thing -- yeah, Luke Schenn wasn't great on Saturday, but if (frank)ing up in games was grounds to get scratched, he would not be the only one sitting

If you are going to run a ship where mistakes have little consequences, don't start scratching some guys and not others, because one thing that is true about Schenn: He plays hard

Goulbourne is actually a solid defensive player with speed and a bit of skill. As a 5th or 6th round pick, Goulbourne would be a fine selection. Klotz was nothing more than a massive goon, and he wasn't even that good of a fighter.
- Jsaquella

I watched him this weekend. It was the CHL game of the week on Friday. As good as Kelowna has been playing Portland is still a tremendous team. Goulbourne had a strong game and has really stayed out of the box this season. If the Flyers don't sign him he's sure to latch on somewhere.

Don't know if that is a bad thing -- yeah, Luke Schenn wasn't great on Saturday, but if (frank)ing up in games was grounds to get scratched, he would not be the only one sitting

If you are going to run a ship where mistakes have little consequences, don't start scratching some guys and not others, because one thing that is true about Schenn: He plays hard
- AllInForFlyers

Schenn wasn't too great against the Wild, either.

If you're actually going to ask why Berube gives less rope to some...

I watched him this weekend. It was the CHL game of the week on Friday. As good as Kelowna has been playing Portland is still a tremendous team. Goulbourne had a strong game and has really stayed out of the box this season. If the Flyers don't sign him he's sure to latch on somewhere.
- mayorofangrytown

I watched part of that game, too. He looked solid. I'd be surprised if somebody didn't sign him. I don't like that they picked him where he did, but he's not a bad player.

Schenn wasn't too great against the Wild, either.

If you're actually going to ask why Berube gives less rope to some...
- Jsaquella

Ha! Nope! I just think that I would really hate playing for a coach who scratches some guys for poor play and not others

I watched him this weekend. It was the CHL game of the week on Friday. As good as Kelowna has been playing Portland is still a tremendous team. Goulbourne had a strong game and has really stayed out of the box this season. If the Flyers don't sign him he's sure to latch on somewhere.
- mayorofangrytown

It's amazing that Portland was able to keep their level of play up with all of pieces they've lost the last 2 years.

Ha! Nope! I just think that I would really hate playing for a coach who scratches some guys for poor play and not others
- AllInForFlyers

It is what it is, I guess.

In the last two games, Schenn's made mistakes that contributed to 3 goals against. MacDonald made a dumb play behind the net that led to one of those 3, which cost the Flyers a point.

Akeson hasn't played great, but he's not making glaring mistakes that end up in the Flyer net

I watched part of that game, too. He looked solid. I'd be surprised if somebody didn't sign him. I don't like that they picked him where he did, but he's not a bad player.
- Jsaquella

I've always figured any one pick outside the second round who plays in the NHL is a huge bonus but, yeah, to get a player with that upside in the third... I would have drafted someone with a bit more ceiling.

He did get raked for going on three seasons now. It's mostly on reputation and if you watch him ply there's no denying the kid has heart and talent. He would have made an excellent fourth round choice. I wonder what kind of treatment he'd have gotten if he wasn't immediately compared to Rinaldo by management at the draft?

I've always figured any one pick outside the second round who plays in the NHL is a huge bonus but, yeah, to get a player with that upside in the third... I would have drafted someone with a bit more ceiling.

He did get raked for going on three seasons now. It's mostly on reputation and if you watch him ply there's no denying the kid has heart and talent. He would have made an excellent fourth round choice. I wonder what kind of treatment he'd have gotten if he wasn't immediately compared to Rinaldo by management at the draft?
- mayorofangrytown

Goulbourne is an overager, right? Is the window closed to give him an ELC if that's what the Flyers wanted to do?

Goulbourne is an overager, right? Is the window closed to give him an ELC if that's what the Flyers wanted to do?
- johndewar

I think they lose his rights July 1st this year.

It is what it is, I guess.

In the last two games, Schenn's made mistakes that contributed to 3 goals against. MacDonald made a dumb play behind the net that led to one of those 3, which cost the Flyers a point.

Akeson hasn't played great, but he's not making glaring mistakes that end up in the Flyer net
- Jsaquella

That is exactly what I mean -- if you scratch Schenn tonight, yeah, you can say that he is playing the worst. But then you are a hypocrite because you aren't scratching the worst forward

If you scratch him for (frank)ing up in goals against, then Coliacovo would have drawn in in Saturday, because MacDonald would have been sitting right next to Schenn

It's amazing that Portland was able to keep their level of play up with all of pieces they've lost the last 2 years.
- jmatchett383

Yeah, they got hammered.

Timmy P wondering how Islanders are in first place and calls the Macdonald trade a bad one for the Isles

http://www.csnphilly.com/...ace-metropolitan-division
- Just5

"A rebirth no one saw coming."


Anyone who was paying attention to the growth of our players(Nelson, Strome, Hamonic, DeHaan, Okposo, and even Cizikas and Martin to a degree)saw it coming. We just needed to add some vets and goaltending. AMAC trade was one of Snow's best. We grabbed Ho Sang moving up in the draft with one of the two picks. Kid looks like the real deal

I've always figured any one pick outside the second round who plays in the NHL is a huge bonus but, yeah, to get a player with that upside in the third... I would have drafted someone with a bit more ceiling.

He did get raked for going on three seasons now. It's mostly on reputation and if you watch him ply there's no denying the kid has heart and talent. He would have made an excellent fourth round choice. I wonder what kind of treatment he'd have gotten if he wasn't immediately compared to Rinaldo by management at the draft?
- mayorofangrytown

That's actually a good point. If the team would have compared him to Downie, I think most people would have felt a little better about the pick. Telling the fans that he has an upside of a 12th forward isn't the smartest thing to do. I feel like the organization holds Rinaldo in such high regard. They probably thought it was the ultimate compliment

That's actually a good point. If the team would have compared him to Downie, I think most people would have felt a little better about the pick. Telling the fans that he has an upside of a 12th forward isn't the smartest thing to do. I feel like the organization holds Rinaldo in such high regard. They probably thought it was the ultimate compliment
- PhillySportsGuy

"He tries. He hits. He skates hard. You guys will love him."

Flyers will extend their winning streak to 2 games tonight

I realize all players aren't the same, but Luke Schenn's played enough NHL games where scratching him for poor play is a standard that can be applied to a lot of people

I've always figured any one pick outside the second round who plays in the NHL is a huge bonus but, yeah, to get a player with that upside in the third... I would have drafted someone with a bit more ceiling.

He did get raked for going on three seasons now. It's mostly on reputation and if you watch him ply there's no denying the kid has heart and talent. He would have made an excellent fourth round choice. I wonder what kind of treatment he'd have gotten if he wasn't immediately compared to Rinaldo by management at the draft?
- mayorofangrytown

He is an overager, which means some of the success he is having now could be a case of a man vs boys, despite the fact that he's not especially big.

However, my issue wasn't that Rinaldo comment, it was passing on several, far more highly regarded prospects who were on the board at that time. Anthony Duclair. Oliver Bjorkstrand. Jimmy Lodge. Cam Cassels.

Goulbourne is likely there in round 4 or even 5. Take him there and you'd hear zero complaints from me.

Goulbourne is an overager, right? Is the window closed to give him an ELC if that's what the Flyers wanted to do?
- johndewar

They can still offer him until July 1. I don't see them doing it. If he doesn't get an entry level deal I guess they could still pursue an AHL deal beyond July.

"A rebirth no one saw coming."


Anyone who was paying attention to the growth of our players(Nelson, Strome, Hamonic, DeHaan, Okposo, and even Cizikas and Martin to a degree)saw it coming. We just needed to add some vets and goaltending. AMAC trade was one of Snow's best. We grabbed Ho Sang moving up in the draft with one of the two picks. Kid looks like the real deal
- Cptmjl

He's one of the worst writers in the city. I doubt he watches any hockey outside of the Flyers. If your only viewing of the Isles is when they play the flyers, you aren't going to think highly of them.

"A rebirth no one saw coming."


Anyone who was paying attention to the growth of our players(Nelson, Strome, Hamonic, DeHaan, Okposo, and even Cizikas and Martin to a degree)saw it coming. We just needed to add some vets and goaltending. AMAC trade was one of Snow's best. We grabbed Ho Sang moving up in the draft with one of the two picks. Kid looks like the real deal
- Cptmjl

To be fair, Tim has probably watched zero Isles games the past fifteen years that didn't involve the Flyers