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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:36 PM ET
That's when you need to start skating the puck out.

They get stationary, defenseman passes it to a wing along the wall, forechecker is all over him, before he can do much more than chip it out. The trouble is, when the forward is in motion, the defenseman is missing him altogether.

- Jsaquella


All of what you said is true

The only two defensemen who are confident enough to skate the puck out are Del Zotto and Streit, and I noticed even Streit was backing off as the Isles started coming in waves

It would have been nice of Coburn would've wheeled it out a couple more times than he did -- I noticed him a couple of times, but then he stopped, too

I mean, (frank) it. Let's be real, here. They did well to not get ran out of the rink tonight -- Mason did everything a team could ask, and then some
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:36 PM ET
Fire sale
- ob18


i'm just waiting for 3 -4 years from now.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:36 PM ET
Fire sale
- ob18

!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:37 PM ET
All of what you said is true

The only two defensemen who are confident enough to skate the puck out are Del Zotto and Streit, and I noticed even Streit was backing off as the Isles started coming in waves

- AllInForFlyers


coburn can be very good in this aspect, especially when wheeling out from behind the net. we need more of that from him. he's more interested in trying to chip it out off the wall and turn it over.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:38 PM ET
I am fine with them not playing Akeson -- you don't want to play the guy, then don't play the guy

But don't just have him sitting there doing nothing -- I remember Bob Clarke used to hate that poop when he was the GM. If you don't want to use a guy, Clarke would move you

He'd give you a chance somewhere else and just move the (frank) on

The Flyers don't have to play Akeson. But move the (frank) on and get somebody in here who the coach will play

- AllInForFlyers


Agreed. Berube doesn't want to play him, fine. Either force the coach to play him, or give the coach a guy who he will play. It's that simple at this point.

That way, win or lose, it's on the coach. He wants to play RJ Umberger over 14 minutes a night and give him top PP unit work, then he can deal with the results and enjoy the search for a new job
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:38 PM ET
All of what you said is true

The only two defensemen who are confident enough to skate the puck out are Del Zotto and Streit, and I noticed even Streit was backing off as the Isles started coming in waves

It would have been nice of Coburn would've wheeled it out a couple more times than he did -- I noticed him a couple of times, but then he stopped, too

I mean, (frank) it. Let's be real, here. They did well to not get ran out of the rink tonight -- Mason did everything a team could ask, and then some

- AllInForFlyers


They did get run out of the rink. Steve Mason is the only reason they escaped with a point.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:38 PM ET
Agreed. Berube doesn't want to play him, fine. Either force the coach to play him, or give the coach a guy who he will play. It's that simple at this point.

That way, win or lose, it's on the coach. He wants to play RJ Umberger over 14 minutes a night and give him top PP unit work, then he can deal with the results and enjoy the search for a new job

- Jsaquella


i've said this all along. if berube isn't going to use him, move him. just move him already.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:39 PM ET
The trouble is, they are capable of more. They have had good performances against good teams this season.

I'd be fine if they actually did suck. The trouble is, they're a talented, but inconsistent team that has holes. On any given night they can play anyone tough.

- Jsaquella


I guess you give more credit to this roster than I do at this point. I feel bad for the weight that g and coots carry game in and game out for this club.

Ok G. You have to make sure we score all our goals

Ok coots. You have to make sure they don't score any goals, at all. Or else we are effed

Vinny coots laughton? Uh. Just dump it when u get it

Rinaldo, Bellemare, oh G again? Oh yeah. Same applies. Get out there and score 2x

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:39 PM ET
i've said this all along. if berube isn't going to use him, move him. just move him already.
- hammarby31


Is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:40 PM ET
coburn can be very good in this aspect, especially when wheeling out from behind the net. we need more of that from him. he's more interested in trying to chip it out off the wall and turn it over.
- hammarby31


HA! Jinx, female dog

(Check my edit)
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:41 PM ET
I guess you give more credit to this roster than I do at this point. I feel bad for the weight that g and coots carry game in and game out for this club.

Ok G. You have to make sure we score all our goals

Ok coots. You have to make sure they don't score any goals, at all. Or else we are effed

Vinny coots laughton? Uh. Just dump it when u get it

Rinaldo, Bellemare, oh G again? Oh yeah. Same applies. Get out there and score 2x

- Just5


I'm not denying the trouble spots an questionable coaching. I just know that I've seen this team play well against good teams. They didn't come close to playing well tonight.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:41 PM ET
!
- PhillySportsGuy



well i mean if you insist.

brian dumolin and a second for that slug read
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:42 PM ET
well i mean if you insist.

brian dumolin and a second for that slug read

- stayinthefnnet


Read is the escargot of slugs
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:44 PM ET
They did get run out of the rink. Steve Mason is the only reason they escaped with a point.
- Jsaquella


I hear you...they should be thankful for it
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:49 PM ET
Read is the escargot of slugs
- PhillySportsGuy


would go great with a side of crosby and hornqvist
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:55 PM ET
i've said this all along. if berube isn't going to use him, move him. just move him already.
- hammarby31


Move him for who? We'd be lucky to get John Scott back.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:59 PM ET
Fine - play Slayer and break poop
- wilsonecho91

u too?! hell awaits!
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Nov 24 @ 11:04 PM ET
Move him for who? We'd be lucky to get John Scott back.
- Just5



I just hope Hextall makes some F'N deal. He obviously is not happy if he chews his team out in the dressing room. He needs to do something to shake up his team!
I am guessing the only way they get rid of RJ Zombieburger is via buyout... Do it! Do something
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Nov 24 @ 11:11 PM ET
Move him for who? We'd be lucky to get John Scott back.
- Just5

a bucket of burger grease
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 24 @ 11:11 PM ET
it was a good game because you won
- vejim

Honestly, if we had lost that, I still would have been happy with the effort especially with Strait and Donovan in the lineup. Dehaan is a fantastic defender and Hickey is far more reliable than Strait. It's the few games we've had bad back checking and lazy efforts that I can't stand.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 24 @ 11:12 PM ET
I just hope Hextall makes some F'N deal. He obviously is not happy if he chews his team out in the dressing room. He needs to do something to shake up his team!
I am guessing the only way they get rid of RJ Zombieburger is via buyout... Do it! Do something

- 3flyerkids

I would keep half of his contract to just get rid of him for nothing.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 24 @ 11:24 PM ET
i've said this all along. if berube isn't going to use him, move him. just move him already.
- hammarby31

Move him for cap space. Waivers is pretty good for that...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 24 @ 11:25 PM ET
I would keep half of his contract to just get rid of him for nothing.
- hereticpride


He's getting bought out this summer. Even if he's still on the cap with dead money in 4 years. It's moving this club ahead
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 24 @ 11:25 PM ET
So the Wings' albatross corpse scores twice tonight in his first game back from AHL exile... Hexy, you paying attention??

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 24 @ 11:47 PM ET
So the Wings' albatross corpse scores twice tonight in his first game back from AHL exile... Hexy, you paying attention??


- Tomahawk


Zombie Bird is what Weiss actually means.
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