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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:22 PM ET
To be fair, more ice time for Umberger is type of punishment because he just looks so damn bad. And for longer.
- wolfhounds


Craig Berube needs to seriously consider sitting people not named Jason Akeson.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:23 PM ET
Craig Berube needs to seriously consider sitting people not named Jason Akeson.
- johndewar


why? he's slow. small. is terrible away from the puck and doesn't compete. don't you know that already?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:24 PM ET
they're too easy to play against. and the 2nd/3rd line guys are nothing but dead weight offensively right now.

eliminating umberger and bunny will be addition by subtraction, even if they have to buy them out.

- hammarby31



Not sure what other options they have outside of what they already did in bringing up Laughton
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:24 PM ET
When the Islanders looked like they were gonna lose the zone, a defenseman was fast and savvy enough to make a play to maintain possession.

When the Flyers did have something going the other way, a forward was charging back to help.

All this Flyers team can do is fall back, which why they get pinned in their zone for chunks of time.

- johndewar


I hear you, and I agree totally with what you just said

But those forwards -- man, sometimes they kill their own breakouts and cycles with ridiculous "hope" passes or just straight-up inaccuracy or inability to receive

Once I saw how the Isles were gonna pressure the puck carrier and they had the speed to recover, I knew that Mason was our only hope
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:24 PM ET
They allowed a ton of a quality chances. They chased the puck 90% of the game. Playing defense because you can't get the puck out of your own end isn't doing what you have to do to get a point, it's getting your ass handed to you and being lucky your goalie was on fire.
- Jsaquella


They aren't capable of much more than this. The isles just beat a red hot pens team back to back. I'm not questioning the manner at how they got this point tonight. They tightened in their own zone even if it was 90% played in it.

Same way they took rangers to 7 games last year. That's what they have to do
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:24 PM ET
I would eat half of the Umberger contract just to be done with him. Bring up Cousins, Leier, Straka, a cheap vet. Anyone.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:25 PM ET
Craig Berube needs to seriously consider sitting people not named Jason Akeson.
- johndewar


Should've been done a while back, but he's not gonna do it
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:26 PM ET
Fire Masonry!
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:27 PM ET
Craig Berube needs to seriously consider sitting people not named Jason Akeson.
- johndewar


And start playing Jason Aldean more
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:28 PM ET
they're too easy to play against. and the 2nd/3rd line guys are nothing but dead weight offensively right now.

eliminating umberger and bunny will be addition by subtraction, even if they have to buy them out.

- hammarby31


It has to happen, man -- you cannot carry both

You can try to carry one. You cannot carry both
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:29 PM ET
They aren't capable of much more than this. The isles just beat a red hot pens team back to back. I'm not questioning the manner at how they got this point tonight. They tightened in their own zone even if it was 90% played in it.

Same way they took rangers to 7 games last year. That's what they have to do

- Just5


The trouble is, they are capable of more. They have had good performances against good teams this season.

I'd be fine if they actually did suck. The trouble is, they're a talented, but inconsistent team that has holes. On any given night they can play anyone tough.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:30 PM ET
And start playing Jason Aldean more
- wilsonecho91


I don't think you're taking this seriously enough.

Come back later and be more solemn. And salty. In equal parts.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:30 PM ET
It's a (frank)ing joke. There's no other word for it.

Bill Clement literally just said the coach can take away ice time...Berube gives Umberger more and more. It's ridiculous.

- Jsaquella


Lol. Berube really is doing everything possible not to play Akeson. Its pretty funny.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
The trouble is, they are capable of more. They have had good performances against good teams this season.

I'd be fine if they actually did suck. The trouble is, they're a talented, but inconsistent team that has holes. On any given night they can play anyone tough.

- Jsaquella


The Isles have the kind of team and system that gives them fits, though -- similar to Tampa, and they stuck with it
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
The trouble is, they are capable of more. They have had good performances against good teams this season.

I'd be fine if they actually did suck. The trouble is, they're a talented, but inconsistent team that has holes. On any given night they can play anyone tough.

- Jsaquella


That's the maddening part. And they quite clearly have the goalie who can steal them some games. They just need to fill those big holes you mentioned.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:31 PM ET
Lol. Berube really is doing everything possible not to play Akeson. Its pretty funny.
- PhillySportsGuy


Hextall should waive him tomorrow and recall Leier or Gordon or Jones. Emery will be playing wing before Akeson.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Not sure what other options they have outside of what they already did in bringing up Laughton
- nastyflyergirl


i don't know either.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
Hextall should waive him tomorrow and recall Leier or Gordon or Jones. Emery will be playing wing before Akeson.
- Jsaquella


I feel like this is just a (frank) you to Hextall. Like Hextall wants him to play Akeson but Berube is like "the lineup card is mine"
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:32 PM ET
I don't think you're taking this seriously enough.

Come back later and be more solemn. And salty. In equal parts.

- wolfhounds



Fine - play Slayer and break poop
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
Hextall should waive him tomorrow and recall Leier or Gordon or Jones. Emery will be playing wing before Akeson.
- Jsaquella


so they've got the space to do that?

edit: never mind. i read your post incorrectly.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
Hextall should waive him tomorrow and recall Leier or Gordon or Jones. Emery will be playing wing before Akeson.
- Jsaquella


Bah. Dress 8 defensemen and sit Umby.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
The Isles have the kind of team and system that gives them fits, though -- similar to Tampa, and they stuck with it
- AllInForFlyers


That's when you need to start skating the puck out.

They get stationary, defenseman passes it to a wing along the wall, forechecker is all over him, before he can do much more than chip it out. The trouble is, when the forward is in motion, the defenseman is missing him altogether.

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:34 PM ET
Hextall should waive him tomorrow and recall Leier or Gordon or Jones. Emery will be playing wing before Akeson.
- Jsaquella


I am fine with them not playing Akeson -- you don't want to play the guy, then don't play the guy

But don't just have him sitting there doing nothing -- I remember Bob Clarke used to hate that poop when he was the GM. If you don't want to use a guy, Clarke would move you

He'd give you a chance somewhere else and just move the (frank) on

The Flyers don't have to play Akeson. But move the (frank) on and get somebody in here who the coach will play
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:35 PM ET
i don't know either.
- hammarby31


Fire sale
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Nov 24 @ 10:35 PM ET
That's when you need to start skating the puck out.

They get stationary, defenseman passes it to a wing along the wall, forechecker is all over him, before he can do much more than chip it out. The trouble is, when the forward is in motion, the defenseman is missing him altogether.

- Jsaquella


Or the defenseman send him a bouncing puck
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