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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:14 PM ET
I have been watching the Flyers since 1968 and other than Giroux, Voracek and Mason this team is one of the worst I have seen
- vejim


You must not have seen 2007.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
You are right..We need less of a player like Rinaldo that skates hard , throws the body and tries vs Couturier and Read who do absolutely what again? Maybe Akegretzky would solve the problem.
- opeth_pa


Yeah your right 25 mins for coots he didn't try a second of it. You know what. Let's go with 10 forwards!! Scratch his ass!
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
Yup, I like Rino on the team and think he's a great 4th liner. How about that pass from G to Rino to Bellemare? The problem is, we essentially have a top line and 3 other meh lines.
- wolfhounds



That pretty much sums it up perfectly..a top line and 3 other meh lines..
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
You must not have seen 2007.
- johndewar


he said "one of"...
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
Laughton looks like he could be the real deal in no time.
- wolfhounds


I like Laughton's game, but I wouldn't start him in the SO.. I would have gone jake, Laughton G.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
You must not have seen 2007.
- johndewar

I did
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
he said "one of"...
- hammarby31


07 was way worse, but that doesn't make me feel any better.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
Yeah your right 25 mins for coots he didn't try a second of it. You know what. Let's go with 10 forwards!! Scratch his ass!
- Just5



Im not saying scratch him ..Im saying in a 0-0 game one of your least performing offensive players should not lead the team in ice time.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
i'd prefer we still have gagne, jvr, and hartnell.
- hammarby31


Absolutely!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
I think they did what they had to do to get out of there with a point. They really beared down in the d zone. I thought it was tremendous concentration to not let up so many A quality chances. Lots of B chances.

This team stinks. We have to remember that. What the hell is a coots or g to do when your short a forward not counting vinny, umberger, Rinaldo? Every single islander forward is better than those 3

- Just5



don't get the Rinaldo hate, he is one of the few that worked his ass off tonight. he is what he isd, a decent 4th liner who brings energy.

I am really disappointed in Read so far this year. expected so much more. Coming into the season I thought they were a borderline playoff team (6-7-8) but I am really questioning. they play well at times and terribly other times and i really think a large part of that is that they have to work so hard to win and they can't sustain that 60 mins for 82 games. i really want to see them get more speed and skill. Hexy has a lot of work ahead fixing this mix
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
The defensemen on this team hold this team back. Forget jumbling the forwards or female doging and whining about Zac Rinaldo or the line combos.

Did you see how their blueline played and both forwards and d could support each other?

No (frank)ing way can this Flyers team play like that with this blue line.

Good thing we have so many guys on the blueline that can play the PK, because that game resembled being shorthanded for 60 minutes.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
The whole 11 man rotation just throws more chaos into what was already an unsteady forward mix imo. It's like Berube will do anything to not play Akeson...yet the Zomberger gets even more reward, being featured on the top PP, lol.


P.S. had to get my daily Akeson mention in there...keep hope alive!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:17 PM ET
he said "one of"...
- hammarby31

thank you
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:17 PM ET
I did
- vejim


I saw both teams up close and personal.

That 2007 sucked way worse.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 24 @ 10:17 PM ET
He's only 21 as well, right?

Jeez. Give him a break.

- KGBflyers10


You sum up the problem. There's nothing wrong with being that type of player!!!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:17 PM ET
I like Laughton's game, but I wouldn't start him in the SO.. I would have gone jake, Laughton G.
- Hextall271


Agreed. The kid looks like he's got some good moves, and maybe Berube thought the element of being unknown would help him, but I was definitely surprised to see him go first...or at all.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 24 @ 10:18 PM ET
The whole 11 man rotation just throws more chaos into what was already an unsteady forward mix imo. It's like Berube will do anything to not play Akeson...yet the Zomberger gets even more reward, being featured on the top PP, lol.
- exlund


It's a (frank)ing joke. There's no other word for it.

Bill Clement literally just said the coach can take away ice time...Berube gives Umberger more and more. It's ridiculous.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:18 PM ET
07 was way worse, but that doesn't make me feel any better.
- Hextall271

14 is not over yet?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:19 PM ET
don't get the Rinaldo hate, he is one of the few that worked his ass off tonight. he is what he isd, a decent 4th liner who brings energy.

I am really disappointed in Read so far this year. expected so much more. Coming into the season I thought they were a borderline playoff team (6-7-8) but I am really questioning. they play well at times and terribly other times and i really think a large part of that is that they have to work so hard to win and they can't sustain that 60 mins for 82 games. i really want to see them get more speed and skill. Hexy has a lot of work ahead fixing this mix

- nastyflyergirl


they're too easy to play against. and the 2nd/3rd line guys are nothing but dead weight offensively right now.

eliminating umberger and bunny will be addition by subtraction, even if they have to buy them out.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:19 PM ET
It's a (frank)ing joke. There's no other word for it.

Bill Clement literally just said the coach can take away ice time...Berube gives Umberger more and more. It's ridiculous.

- Jsaquella


it's terrible.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 24 @ 10:20 PM ET
The defensemen on this team hold this team back. Forget jumbling the forwards or female doging and whining about Zac Rinaldo or the line combos.

Did you see how their blueline played and both forwards and d could support each other?

No (frank)ing way can this Flyers team play like that with this blue line.

Good thing we have so many guys on the blueline that can play the PK, because that game resembled being shorthanded for 60 minutes.

- johndewar


Agreed, there was cohesion in the Islanders breakouts, rotations and cycles, but man, that's not on the defense entirely

The passing on this team is absolutely atrocious, and that's not all on the defense -- there are some truly tragic passers in the forward group
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:20 PM ET
It's a (frank)ing joke. There's no other word for it.

Bill Clement literally just said the coach can take away ice time...Berube gives Umberger more and more. It's ridiculous.

- Jsaquella


To be fair, more ice time for Umberger is type of punishment because he just looks so damn bad. And for longer.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:21 PM ET
don't get the Rinaldo hate, he is one of the few that worked his ass off tonight. he is what he isd, a decent 4th liner who brings energy.

I am really disappointed in Read so far this year. expected so much more. Coming into the season I thought they were a borderline playoff team (6-7-8) but I am really questioning. they play well at times and terribly other times and i really think a large part of that is that they have to work so hard to win and they can't sustain that 60 mins for 82 games. i really want to see them get more speed and skill. Hexy has a lot of work ahead fixing this mix

- nastyflyergirl


The porn stache is letting Read down. He needs to grow some mutton chops and see what happens.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 24 @ 10:21 PM ET
Agreed, there was cohesion in the Islanders breakouts, rotations and cycles, but man, that's not on the defense entirely

The passing on this team is absolutely atrocious, and that's not all on the defense -- there are some truly tragic passers in the forward group

- AllInForFlyers


When the Islanders looked like they were gonna lose the zone, a defenseman was fast and savvy enough to make a play to maintain possession.

When the Flyers did have something going the other way, a forward was charging back to help.

All this Flyers team can do is fall back, which why they get pinned in their zone for chunks of time.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Nov 24 @ 10:22 PM ET
The defensemen on this team hold this team back. Forget jumbling the forwards or female doging and whining about Zac Rinaldo or the line combos.

Did you see how their blueline played and both forwards and d could support each other?

No (frank)ing way can this Flyers team play like that with this blue line.

Good thing we have so many guys on the blueline that can play the PK, because that game resembled being shorthanded for 60 minutes.

- johndewar


they're a big part of the problem. but the forwards kill the play in the neutral zone - can't handle the puck. and when they do it get in the zone, there's not a ton of support, often because the rest of the unit is off for a change because they're exhausted from killing an ES penalty. the lone forward gets stripped and out it goes. lather. rinse. repeat.
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